GDT: RAGNARÖKR CLAN SKOGVAKTARE @ CLAN STORMNING AKA GAME 7 NEW YORK RANGERS @ CAROLINA HURRICANES

[Heyheylj]

I have never played hockey, but after watching it for the better part of 20 years, explain to me why on every powerplay in this series, the puck carrier was not attacking the defense, drawing the defender out of their boxed-in position? We were so content to just pass. It seemed like the confidence to carry and attack with the puck was really evident. I felt like Rangers drew our killers out of position where they could find the open player.

 

[Sigurd]

Change the players. Cole Tro we’re main culprits & of course svetch (who has gotten better).

Off-season will be challenging as the team needs a makeover but are pieces available.

I’d say anyone on d except Slavin should be available for trade, need a top c and for Aho to go to #2, a pp sniper.

I agree with everything you said. Even Pesce IMO should be considered as a trading piece for the right player(s).

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I don't see how it's a roster problem if the same roster manages to execute the PK with league-leading 88% success in regular season. To me that's more a failure of coaching and failing to adapt the PK in a series where you face the same elite team for 4-7 rounds.

It might be that this aggressive forecheck style PK works better in regular season, but elite teams may find a way to work around it like we saw with Tampa last year, where they essentially scored a couple of empty nets on the PP when Carolina forwards where out of position.

I meant the power play for the need of a roster shake-up, only bringing in the PK to highlight how devastating a bad PP is for this team.

With how these elite PPs have produced against other clubs, with different coaches, systems and adjustments, it might be an is what it is deal. Just have to cut into the margins on the other side, which this team hasn't done.

 

[VAcaniac]

Aho’s press conference made me lose brain cells.

“Uh, I guess we could do better on special teams.” You guess idiot?

Nino is my man for now on. He shows up every single damn day.

Bout to livestream the burning of the Finnish glag.

 

[rt]

It’d be nice. But Necas isn’t going to cut it as the core of a Chychrun trade after his play this year.

They’d rightly ask for Jarvis, which yeah, we can’t do.

I think Arizona would be after Pyotr Kochetkov. They seem hellbent on getting a goalie of the future.

 

[ClarkBolzano]

Honestly road games you are less likely to win are the best time for that. Not game 7.

But Svech doing to Fox what he did to Lindholm would be great.

He's been a kitty kat....needs to be a tiger.

No, he needs to score. If you need a Tiger get somebody else. You cant through Your body around and score goals on on a regular Basis. At least Svech cant. Plain and simple. That doesnt mean He has not to be aggressive but use Your Energy when it's needed. If you think Svech should be a Main contributor on the score sheet then forget about the Power forward shit cause tell me How many Power fowards are in the top ten scoring wise? Dont come up with Eric Lindros.

 

[VAcaniac]

Why are we so gung ho about protecting Turbo? Cant tell you what he’s ever done in the playoffs

 

[ndp]

Why are we so gung ho about protecting Turbo? Cant tell you what he’s ever done in the playoffs

Tie for with Aho for #1 in playoff points?

 

[ClarkBolzano]

Svech now hitting.. 6 games late.

First score, than if you have Energy enough you can have fun. What the hell

 

[surfzone365]

This team is good but not elite. If it wasn’t evident now, it would have been in another bow out vs TBL next round. Looks like Rod’s postgame comments acknowledged the obvious. Our stars aren’t delivering and haven’t been since March.

 

[Lempo]

Re Dougie Hamilton.. He’s a solid player and he did some good things for us (despite being a defensive liability at times—and shying away from contact at the worst possible times)—but he simply wasn’t worth the money he was asking.

Yup. 9M he got is a lot, 7 x 9M he got is an impossibility.

Thinking from rewarding the player viewpoint, letting Hamiltons and Faulks to early go find their big contract elsewhere should be the next best thing after actually giving him that money yourself. And when giving him that money yourself isn't a plausible option, I refuse to see it as an organizational failure when that happens.

Save giving the big UFA contracts for Slavin tier players.

 

[Svechhammer]

This team is good but not elite. If it wasn’t evident now, it would have been in another bow out vs TBL next round. Looks like Rod’s postgame comments acknowledged the obvious. Our stars aren’t delivering and haven’t been since March.

Our stars don't deliver in the playoffs. It's been 4 years of the same old shit with them. Regular season warriors who become passengers in the playoffs.

 

[surfzone365]

Our stars don't deliver in the playoffs. It's been 4 years of the same old shit with them. Regular season warriors who become passengers in the playoffs.

Last few years we exceeded expectations but this is one of the first years we failed as the “better” team. If we are to grow from this, these guys need to be better. Generic of a statement that is, that’s up to Rod how they go about that.

 

[The S5]

It sucks going out this way, but don't abandon ship! This team is really good and in need of a couple of tweaks. It's time to move on from some of the bottom six and bring in some bigger, tougher guys to play against.
This series was an absolute toss up. Aho hit how many posts?
Raanta was all you could ask, but Freddy is the number 1. No telling how he may have made a difference.
Svech, Necas, Jarvis all need to continue to develop for this team to take the next step, but the foundation is there, just a few tweaks needed.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

so close to the fabled 5-1 loss... so close

 

[Tryamw]

brutal. love you guys/gals. i'll be back when people remember tda is a rfa not a ufa.

He's gonna ask for da Moon!. (But yeah people seem to think he's got the leverage..

 

[DaveG]

Last few years we exceeded expectations but this is one of the first years we failed as the “better” team. If we are to grow from this, these guys need to be better. Generic of a statement that is, that’s up to Rod how they go about that.

see this is where I disagree.

2019 we exceeded expectations big time. We got to the playoffs a year ahead of schedule and then over-achieved in the first series riding that to the conference finals where we got roflstomped.

2020 we won the play-in series. We should have been expected to. Reality hit the next round getting the Bruins again.

2021 we exceeded in the regular season a bit, but winning a round before getting bounced by Tampa was realistic.

this year we under-achieved. Elite regular season team, but the expectation was at minimum Conference Finals. Credit due to the Rangers goalie, but this was a team that not being one of the last 4 standing was unacceptable as a final result.

Management needs to take a hard f***ing look in the mirror and then figure out how to make us tougher to play against next season especially when we run into situations where other teams are taking liberties with our other players. Trouba should have been eating his teeth the rest of the series after the hit on Domi, and yet we had absolutely no f***ing physical response all series. The Rangers looked at their situation after getting clowned by the Caps late last season and made themselves a more difficult team to play against, and backed by all-world goaltending it paid off for them. We haven't made ourselves any tougher since the first series loss to Boston... if anything this team has gotten softer.

 

[raynman]

Should we get an off-season thread going?

 

[CanesUltimate11]

I have never played hockey, but after watching it for the better part of 20 years, explain to me why on every powerplay in this series, the puck carrier was not attacking the defense, drawing the defender out of their boxed-in position? We were so content to just pass. It seemed like the confidence to carry and attack with the puck was really evident. I felt like Rangers drew our killers out of position where they could find the open player.

Part of that is our PK scheme is super aggressive so it’s easy to pull player out of position. The Rangers weren’t needy as aggressive, partly due to our players being offensively snake bit, and so could just pack it in and block passing lanes and shots.

I’m more annoyed that we don’t set up for one timers except from TDA at the pointz. Have Turbo and Jarvis/Necas swap sides and fire away. Every time Necas took a shot it took to long from collecting the pass to shooting and it got blocked.

 

[Lempo]

Should we get an off-season thread going?

It's not off-season until we hear how dead Jarvis and Raanta are.

 

[MinJaBen]

In fairness to the goaltending and defense, they are playing high end competition year after year. Boston's PP converted at a 28.8% rate outside of that series in 2019. Tampa also converted at 28.8% outside of the series last playoff. In smaller sample sizes, the Rangers put up a 31.6% spot against the Pens last round. Boston wasn't far behind against Tampa in the Bubble (29.4%).

If a PP, particularly a hot one, can simply outexecute a PK, the team's PP has no excuse. 1 for 14 against Boston in 2019. 2 for 15 against Boston in 2020. 2 for 14 against Tampa in 2021. 2 for 18 against the Rangers this go around. That's 11.5% in those series. The total special teams goal differential in those 21 games: -17.

The way you beat a hot PP is not going to the box. This is where “Rod the players coach” really fails as he buys into the narrative that it is the refs problem not the players problem when calls are made. Reducing penalties, especially the cheap crosschecks and other “temper” related ones, needs to be a priority in the off-season.

 

[Svechhammer]

The way you beat a hot PP is not going to the box. This is where “Rod the players coach” really fails as he buys into the narrative that it is the refs problem not the players problem when calls are made. Reducing penalties, especially the cheap crosschecks and other “temper” related ones, needs to be a priority in the off-season.

Lol
That's been a priority for years and it only gets worse. And we were one of the least penalized teams before RBA took over. At the end of the day, taking endless stupid penalties and mentally shitting ourselves in the playoffs is part of the identity of RBA coached teams.

 

[Lempo]

The way you beat a hot PP is not going to the box.

... sorry, I was thinking something else.

 

[DaveG]

It's not off-season until we hear how dead Jarvis and Raanta are.

basically what I was going to say. It's officially the off-season once we start getting the post-season interview news.

 

[raynman]

It's not off-season until we hear how dead Jarvis and Raanta are.

I’d be willing to bet Raanta has been pretty close to death for a few weeks now.