Value of: Quinton Byfield

[91Fedorov]

Whats missing in his game?

Skating, defensive awerness or finnish?

Or does he lack in vision?

He just seems like the game is too fast for him. He rarely puts passes on players tape and doesn't excel when he can't physically dominate the competition. It's been like this since the WJCs and he hasn't shown that he's more than that since then. It's awareness and vision.

The Kings shouldn't trade him. His value is too low. There's a chance he figures something out, and that's worth more than they can likely get for him. Of course, if anyone offers anything close to #2 OA value, they should take it and run like hell.

 

[Schmooley]

He rarely puts passes on players tape

Besides being good on the forecheck his passing was his best skill. He was really nifty setting up Kopitar and Kempe. You must not have watched the Kings play in the regular season and I dont blame you.

 

[Sol]

The biggest thing going against Byfield as a Kings fan is that he doesn’t seem to have any high end skills.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

The biggest thing going against Byfield as a Kings fan is that he doesn’t seem to have any high end skills.

It’s this for me too. Like the potential is there, but he just doesn’t seem good.

 

[go4hockey]

Whats missing in his game?

Skating, defensive awerness or finnish?

Or does he lack in vision?

Patients. They said he would take some time when we drafted him. Just needs to put on weight and fill that body. His game is coming along fine. Just slow for todays impatient world

 

[Rorschach]

The biggest thing going against Byfield as a Kings fan is that he doesn’t seem to have any high end skills.

It's the opposite. He has the skills. He doesn't have a good hockey mind on his shoulders. This is the one thing I said on HFB like 20 times right before the draft. He's always been slow and picking up stuff and he's always had too high of a learning curve so that he always wound up not performing well in the big tournaments. Stutzle was the opposite, he was always ahead of the curve.

Having played some non-pro hockey myself when I was a young man, there were many games I could watch at the floor/roller rink which had very good players including those who played ice hockey too. One guy mentioned something to me that I never forgot: there's a lot of guys out there who have some skill...I have a shot as good as Modano, I can skate as fast as Fedorov, I can backskate as well as Chelios, etc. These guys keep trying out but not making teams despite having an elite level skill or two. However the difference between a guy who has no elite level skill but is playing in the bottom pair or bottom six every day in the NHL vs. the guy who does have some elite skill but will never make the NHL is this. How fast can you process what the opposing players are doing and react to it and also reacting to your own teammates? Are you fast enough mentally for the NHL and you can react well? Do you have good awareness and reactions both offensively and defensively?

That's the difference between an everyday player in the NHL vs. some amateur guy with skills. Coaches know there is a cap and they still have to field an entire team's roster. There will be guys who are just role players but if they are always defensively aware and can react appropriately, they will always have a job somewhere and the coach will always have ice time for them.

 

[Gurglesons]

Patients. They said he would take some time when we drafted him. Just needs to put on weight and fill that body. His game is coming along fine. Just slow for todays impatient world

patients.

 

[Steve Zissou]

He rarely puts passes on players tape and doesn't excel when he can't physically dominate the competition. It's been like this since the WJCs and he hasn't shown that he's more than that since then. It's awareness and vision.

If anything this year with Byfield, it's that his physicality along the boards, winning puck battles, and dishing to either Kopitar or Kempe have been pretty amazing to watch. He helped turned Kempe into a 40 goal scorer and resurrected Kopitar's ability to actually shoot the puck.





















Now, if you would have argued that he doesn't know how to shoot to score at the NHL level I think you would find every Kings fan would be in agreement. He's been snakebitten this past year but even he mentioned he has to work on his shot in the off-season.

As it stands, the very two traits that you accuse him of lacking are the two traits that made his line click this year.

 

[91Fedorov]

If anything this year with Byfield, it's that his physicality along the boards, winning puck battles, and dishing to either Kopitar or Kempe have been pretty amazing to watch. He helped turned Kempe into a 40 goal scorer and resurrected Kopitar's ability to actually shoot the puck.





















Now, if you would have argued that he doesn't know how to shoot to score at the NHL level I think you would find every Kings fan would be in agreement. He's been snakebitten this past year but even he mentioned he has to work on his shot in the off-season.

As it stands, the very two traits that you accuse him of lacking are the two traits that made his line click this year.

Look at those replays and actually count the times that he A - passes to an area, and needs his team mate to make a play vs. B - hits them directly on the tape. He consistently passes to an area instead of reading the play and hitting players on the tape. Look at the second video you linked. These are his highlights and look at how many times he makes a pass to nobody and kills the play.

Byfield is not a great passer. He's an NHL average passer at best. He is good at fighting for a puck and dishing it to a place that another player can make a play. Those are middle 6 level skills. He hasn't shown much past that yet.

 

[Kurrilino]

Patients. They said he would take some time when we drafted him. Just needs to put on weight and fill that body. His game is coming along fine. Just slow for todays impatient world

Absolutely corect

Beside that he is a playmaking center, forced to play goal scoring winger.
What did people expect would happen?

He is part why Kempe is a 40 goal scorer, Kopitar is the one on his way out of the line, not Byfield.
He will still need 2-3 years to grow into his frame. After that he will be an absolute beast on the ice

 

[57special]

Byfield should only go as part of a pkg for a really good, young'ish player. Like Arvidsson + Byfield for Keller(not him necessarily, but of that type), or something like that. Otherwise, you might as well keep him. He's a sunk cost, at this point, as is Turcotte.

I mean, would FL trade Lundell for Byfield straight across? NJD, Mercer? I don't think so.

And I say this as a guy who was all in favor of Byfield being picked at #2. There is still lots of time, but so far he has been very slow to go. I do get Tage Thompson vibes from him a bit.

 

[Channelcat]

Byfield needs to find his place, it's just not on the top line. He looks like he has the skill set to be a very good bottom 6 guy. And that isn't a bad thing.

 

[Mohar Ikram]

Byfield needs to find his place, it's just not on the top line. He looks like he has the skill set to be a very good bottom 6 guy. And that isn't a bad thing.

Byfield face the same problem as Lafreniere in NYR. There are two higher quality players played infront on him and further up on the lineup.

For Laf, it is Panarin and Kreider. For Byfield, it is Kopitar and Danault. He has to figure out his game.... Quick.

 

[Sol]

It's the opposite. He has the skills. He doesn't have a good hockey mind on his shoulders. This is the one thing I said on HFB like 20 times right before the draft. He's always been slow and picking up stuff and he's always had too high of a learning curve so that he always wound up not performing well in the big tournaments. Stutzle was the opposite, he was always ahead of the curve.

Having played some non-pro hockey myself when I was a young man, there were many games I could watch at the floor/roller rink which had very good players including those who played ice hockey too. One guy mentioned something to me that I never forgot: there's a lot of guys out there who have some skill...I have a shot as good as Modano, I can skate as fast as Fedorov, I can backskate as well as Chelios, etc. These guys keep trying out but not making teams despite having an elite level skill or two. However the difference between a guy who has no elite level skill but is playing in the bottom pair or bottom six every day in the NHL vs. the guy who does have some elite skill but will never make the NHL is this. How fast can you process what the opposing players are doing and react to it and also reacting to your own teammates? Are you fast enough mentally for the NHL and you can react well? Do you have good awareness and reactions both offensively and defensively?

That's the difference between an everyday player in the NHL vs. some amateur guy with skills. Coaches know there is a cap and they still have to field an entire team's roster. There will be guys who are just role players but if they are always defensively aware and can react appropriately, they will always have a job somewhere and the coach will always have ice time for them.

I don’t think it’s a surprise that Byfield played his best hockey with the most productive players on the team. I think he needs too much help even at this age because he’s just not impressive.

And here’s the thing, his puck handling skills are mediocre. His shot is atrocious. His passing skills are pretty good. His endurance is wack. His skating is pretty unimpressive. The most impressive thing about byfield is the rare nifty passes he does. There’s not much else.

The age and frame comments would make sense if there was something valuable in his game that we all saw that he could build on. However there’s nothing really there at all. We don’t give second round picks that much rope expecting them to change so much, kind of weird that we’d give byfield that.

 

[Rorschach]

I don’t think it’s a surprise that Byfield played his best hockey with the most productive players on the team. I think he needs too much help even at this age because he’s just not impressive.

And here’s the thing, his puck handling skills are mediocre. His shot is atrocious. His passing skills are pretty good. His endurance is wack. His skating is pretty unimpressive. The most impressive thing about byfield is the rare nifty passes he does. There’s not much else.

The age and frame comments would make sense if there was something valuable in his game that we all saw that he could build on. However there’s nothing really there at all. We don’t give second round picks that much rope expecting them to change so much, kind of weird that we’d give byfield that.

Well here's the thing. He looks ineffective, I think we both agree on that. But the question is, is he actually incapable or is this a mental thing like he hesitates too much or he second guesses himself or he just doesn't react fast enough? Any of those things in NHL hockey will cause a player who could do something skill-wise to look ineffective doing it.

 

[Sol]

Well here's the thing. He looks ineffective, I think we both agree on that. But the question is, is he actually incapable or is this a mental thing like he hesitates too much or he second guesses himself or he just doesn't react fast enough? Any of those things in NHL hockey will cause a player who could do something skill-wise to look ineffective doing it.

I think it’s a skill issue because even when Vilardi was struggling it was still easy to tell that he had insane hands and high hockey IQ. I can’t say the same about Byfield. You’d expect some form of apparent skills. I think there’s an argument to be made that a skilled player needs time for cohesiveness to take place in their game. The argument for Byfield needing more time would make sense if only cohesion was missing in his game. He does nothing impressive besides a nifty pass here and there. That’s definitely concerning.

 

[habsfan44]

Whats missing in his game?

Skating, defensive awerness or finnish?

Or does he lack in vision?

Experience !

 

[WaW]

The wild thing is that there are some Kings fans who want to write off Byfield but STILL think Turcotte is gonna pan out, lol.

At the time of the 2020 draft, the scouting report on Byfield was that he would take longer to develop than Laf, Stutzle, Raymond, and Drysdale. How about we settle down a bit and give him another season...

 

[91Fedorov]

At the time of the 2020 draft, the scouting report on Byfield was that he would take longer to develop than Laf, Stutzle, Raymond, and Drysdale. How about we settle down a bit and give him another season...

I've heard many people say this, but I've never seen it in any of the 2020 scouting reports of Byfield. Who said this and when did they say it?

 

[slappipappi]

Byfield for Markstrom?

Considering Marky has negative value, that would be quite the coup.

 

[Kurrilino]

Byfield face the same problem as Lafreniere in NYR. There are two higher quality players played infront on him and further up on the lineup.

For Laf, it is Panarin and Kreider. For Byfield, it is Kopitar and Danault. He has to figure out his game.... Quick.

Why would that be?

He is freaking 20 with a huge body he has to grow into and learn to utilize.
He is still 3-4 years away from making an impact.

The real question is why the Kings are not giving him any chance to grow, playing the position his is intended to play.
The line with Fiala - Byfield - Villardi looked fantastic

 

[Mohar Ikram]

Why would that be?

He is freaking 20 with a huge body he has to grow into and learn to utilize.
He is still 3-4 years away from making an impact.

The real question is why the Kings are not giving him any chance to grow, playing the position his is intended to play.
The line with Fiala - Byfield - Villardi looked fantastic

Simple. Kings is a contending team now. If he figure out his game too late.... He might be:

1) Either traded for strengthening the team. Remember, Both Kopi and Doughty is not getting younger.

2) Yes, he rise to the occasion but the team is absolutely shambles and fully tanking because the old guard already retired by the point he became a truly world class player.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

It's the short stick he uses!!!

Change your stick man.

 

[McDonald19]

His value has never been lower and he's on a downward trajectory, you won't like what you hear.

Not sure about downward trajectory. In the second half of the season and the playoffs he looked slightly improved to me. And I’m a Ducks fan.

Whats missing in his game?

Skating, defensive awerness or finnish?

Or does he lack in vision?

Goal scoring, aggressiveness and physicality.

His play making, skating and vision is fine.

 

[jackjohnson]

Byram for Byfield

I value field more than ram when it comes to computers