Value of: Quinn hughes

[GOilers88]

Canucks fans don't want him traded. He is what drives the offense from the backend and Hughes is the only D on this team that can pass and score 80 points yearly. Those are elite number, don't care how you view him or how you think he would fetch little in a trade because he wouldn't be traded.

All due respect but he's yet to break 70 points. Where is this annual 80 coming from?

 

[PenderB]

Nope for a bunch of reasons .
No way in hell we can spend that much on D .

I agree but as a Canuck fan if he were traded I would prefer it to be the devils. Seeing the sedins play together it would be pretty cool to see the 3 brothers play as they are all high caliber

 

[zcaptain]

Teams that want Hughes are giving up a ton to add him to a great roster. That was my point not that Hughes isn't a top pairing D.

I will apologies then, but your wording???? not how I read it...Sorry!

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Are you saying the only two players that are better than Hughes are Fox and Makar?

Bro come on. I clearly said the only two on ANOTHER LEVEL.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

You're the one trying to derail the thread with nonsense like this lmfao

Yes he is on another level and yes he is in that conversation. If he isn't already (#1), he probably will be soon.

Why does this upset you so?

Because it's categorically false, like watch QH play ffs. Your clueless.

Fox and Dahlin are on a much different level.

Fox maybe but why is Dahlin on much different level?

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I'm not sure Quinn is a top pairiing dman on most teams trying to trade for him. Much like Chychrun.

He's a very good D though.

Wow.......wow, I get people hate the Canucks because we have so many threads on here and a few delusional fans that inflate value, but this is honest to god one of the worst takes I have ever seen.

 

[GOALOFSSON]

Because it's categorically false, like watch QH play ffs. Your clueless.


Fox maybe but why is Dahlin on much different level?

Your second response suggests that maybe you need to watch more of Dahlin.

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

Hughes is 8th in the league in TOI, he plays against all competition, what’re you talking about

Since he’s entered the league, he’s top 5 in time on ice, only Makar, Doughty, Hedman, and Heiskanen have averaged more.

Dahlin his whole career has been mediocre until half of last season and this season, and one of the worst defenseman in GA in history of U24 who have played more than 100 games.

Man, you like to give facts with no context don't you? Dahlin started his career as an eighteen year old on the worst team in the NHL. He didn't go to college, or hone his skills in the minors. You want to compare seasons of guys that started in the NHL as 21-22 year olds on decent teams to a kid that started as an 18 year old on a worst team and point out he didn't look as good. Well no kidding. You're comparing someone at the age of graduating college to a kid graduating high school at playing defense in the NHL. How many 18 year old defenseman were better then Dahlin? Orr?

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Your second response suggests that maybe you need to watch more of Dahlin.

He's a superstar, I'd love to have him on my team, absolute stud, there, now, what puts him on a different level than QH?

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Man, you like to give facts with no context don't you? Dahlin started his career as an eighteen year old on the worst team in the NHL. He didn't go to college, or hone his skills in the minors. You want to compare seasons of guys that started in the NHL as 21-22 year olds on decent teams to a kid that started as an 18 year old on a worst team and point out he didn't look as good. Well no kidding. You're comparing someone at the age of graduating college to a kid graduating high school at playing defense in the NHL. How many 18 year old defenseman were better then Dahlin? Orr?

Kind of like using a sophomore season on one of the worst teams in the league as a basis for false narrative on how bad QH is defensively, conversely saying every other season was an outlier while only that season paints the clearest picture?

Not that I'm saying your doing that but a lot on here seem to basing opinions on that and in turn are HEAVILY underrating QH. The same as people underrated Dahlin in the same way, now propping him up as some generational talent player while saying QH is just "good"

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

Kind of like using a sophomore season on one of the worst teams in the league as a basis for false narrative on how bad QH is defensively, conversely saying every other season was an outlier while only that season paints the clearest picture?

Not that I'm saying your doing that but a lot on here seem to basing opinions on that and in turn are HEAVILY underrating QH. The same as people underrated Dahlin in the same way, now propping him up as some generational talent player while saying QH is just "good"

A major difference is Dahlin was drafted as one of the best defencemen ever seen in decades. That's why he was even able to play at 18 in the NHL at a high level. Dahlin will more then likely be one of the or the best defensemen in the league from here on out and that's no slight against Hughes. But tou have to remember. Hughes is two years older and started a year later in the NHL. That's a huge difference.

 

[LemonSauceD]

A major difference is Dahlin was drafted as one of the best defencemen ever seen in decades. That's why he was even able to play at 18 in the NHL at a high level. Dahlin will more then likely be one of the or the best defensemen in the league from here on out and that's no slight against Hughes. But tou have to remember. Hughes is two years older and started a year later in the NHL. That's a huge difference.

You do realize Dahlin at 18 was already physically more mature than Hughes? Dahlin also played against grown men, which most European prospects get the luxury of playing, especially Swedish prospects.

Not taking anything away from Dahlin though, playing in the NHL at 18 especially as a defenseman is an impressive feat. But let’s not try and make Dahlin as “less experienced” when entering the league compared to Hughes who entered at 19. Dahlin at 18 had more experience and physically more mature than Hughes was entering the league.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

What would it cost to acquire a 23 year old Tyson Barrie?

 

[McShogun99]

What would it cost to acquire a 23 year old Tyson Barrie?

Barrie was no where near the player Hughes is at 23. Erik Karlsson is a closer comparison at the age of 23.

 

[Warh1ppy]

In a league with Makar Hedman Fox Jodi and Karlsson playing at the same time. The debate of Hughes v Dahlin and who is better why is amusing.

These are both great defencemen in their own right. Zip em back up gentlemen because you're comparing hairs now not length or girth

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Barrie was no where near the player Hughes is at 23. Erik Karlsson is a closer comparison at the age of 23.

Hughes is nowhere near Karlsson on either end of the ice.

Barrie wasn't that good at 23, but that's not what I meant. What is a 23 year old with Tyson Barrie's profile worth? That's Quinn Hughes.

 

[Phrasing]

You do realize Dahlin at 18 was already physically more mature than Hughes? Dahlin also played against grown men, which most European prospects get the luxury of playing, especially Swedish prospects.

Not taking anything away from Dahlin though, playing in the NHL at 18 especially as a defenseman is an impressive feat. But let’s not try and make Dahlin as “less experienced” when entering the league compared to Hughes who entered at 19. Dahlin at 18 had more experience and physically more mature than Hughes was entering the league.

They’re from the same draft too, not two years apart

 

[Breakers]

A slightly toned down version of what Seth Jones got.

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

You do realize Dahlin at 18 was already physically more mature than Hughes? Dahlin also played against grown men, which most European prospects get the luxury of playing, especially Swedish prospects.

Not taking anything away from Dahlin though, playing in the NHL at 18 especially as a defenseman is an impressive feat. But let’s not try and make Dahlin as “less experienced” when entering the league compared to Hughes who entered at 19. Dahlin at 18 had more experience and physically more mature than Hughes was entering the league.

I dont know, Dahlin was pretty scrawny when he started. And if my calculations are correct, Hughes played five games as a nineteen year old. He was twenty his first full year.

 

[Ace]

Every thread inevitably boils down to people who have seen Dahlin play since Krueger was fired and people who havent.

what makes him a different level than Hughes? That he’s playing at a different level than Hughes.

 

[Sting]

Barrie was no where near the player Hughes is at 23. Erik Karlsson is a closer comparison at the age of 23.

Yikes. Put some respect on EK's name.

 

[Homesick]

This is why I hate reading posts from none traditional markets.............

Hughes is the 3rd highest scoring LHD in the league today, 6th OA, 8th in total minutes........man!

So, what makes a number one defenseman in your opinion? Geesh!

Defense

 

[Breakers]

Every thread inevitably boils down to people who have seen Dahlin play since Krueger was fired and people who havent.

what makes him a different level than Hughes? That he’s playing at a different level than Hughes.

And Hughes was playing at a different level Dahlin previously

Funny what coaching can do.

 

[McShogun99]

Yikes. Put some respect on EK's name.

I knew this would draw some heat but look at the numbers they put up at the same age. Vancouver shouldn’t be trading him unless they get a kings ransom in return.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

A major difference is Dahlin was drafted as one of the best defencemen ever seen in decades. That's why he was even able to play at 18 in the NHL at a high level. Dahlin will more then likely be one of the or the best defensemen in the league from here on out and that's no slight against Hughes. But tou have to remember. Hughes is two years older and started a year later in the NHL. That's a huge difference.

No knock against Dahlin he's a stud but he seems to be turning the corner now, more so with a team that is successful, wonder what QH would be able to do in the same situation. QH is a year older too not 2 years.

Also being drafted as one of the best d prospects in years is not in itself a reason for him to be on a different level, nor is starting at the age of 18. Also QH is one of the best dmen in the league and has been since he entered it.

You do realize Dahlin at 18 was already physically more mature than Hughes? Dahlin also played against grown men, which most European prospects get the luxury of playing, especially Swedish prospects.

Not taking anything away from Dahlin though, playing in the NHL at 18 especially as a defenseman is an impressive feat. But let’s not try and make Dahlin as “less experienced” when entering the league compared to Hughes who entered at 19. Dahlin at 18 had more experience and physically more mature than Hughes was entering the league.

Pretty much this.