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Speculation: Quinn Hughes wants to contend

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He doesn't want to go through a lengthy rebuild. Shocker. It's just a "I hope to see the Canucks fail" thread, as is HF's way. Threads like this, is exactly why Bob McKenzie has such a low opinion of this place.
 
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Not sure we really need another Canucks thread.

If we are going to lose Quinn then you trade him for a ransom. His value will not plummet due to a "position of weakness" . There would be a giant bidding war for the best Dman in the league.

I hope we can manage to keep him here but anything is possible. For now this thread seems pointless.
 
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PuckG said:
From a position of weakness, don’t be surprised to not get full value for him. Same thing goes for Miller and EP.
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What position of weakness? A player wanting out means nothing. A position of weakness would mean only one or two teams inquire about Hughes, with limited interest.

VAN is going to get offers from all over the league, with each team trying to win. That's a position of strength.
 
MoneyManny said:
What position of weakness? A player wanting out means nothing. A position of weakness would mean only one or two teams inquire about Hughes, with limited interest.

VAN is going to get offers from all over the league, with each team trying to win. That's a position of strength.
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Every team in the league will be tripping over one another trying to land Hughes.
 
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Heldig said:
Norris is better than Mercer.
DeMelo is underrated and better than Nemec is currently
The 1st turned into Stutzle
They also got a decent checking type forward in Turney.
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The first was from a perennial playoff team that just added a 2 time Norris winner. NJD has flamed out way more often than SJ

Norris and Demelo were not what that package is at the tine

Nemec has the highest ceiling.

Definitely not a hischier level player in either pavkage
 
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Canuck haters are eating good lately.

They get to throw out as many lowball trade proposals as they want and pretend like the Canuck players have much less value than they do.

"Position of weakness."

They have a Hart candidate player playing his best hockey and he's locked up for two more seasons.

They literally do not have to do anything.

But don't let me stop the fun, it's Christmas around here for some people.
 
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Quinning said:
Unlike the others, there's no way he returns anything less than a King's Ransom, because he's 25 and about to win his second consecutive Norris. Every team in the league will ask about him.

Start the bidding at:

U25 top 4 defenceman
Blue chip prospect
Blue chip prospect
1st round pick
1st round pick
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NJ 1st 2026
NJ 1st 2027
Anton Silayev
Dawson Mercer
Simon Nemec

for

Quinn Hughes
 
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Legion34 said:
The first was from a perennial playoff team that just added a 2 time Norris winner. NJD has flamed out way more often than SJ

Norris and Demelo were not what that package is at the tine

Nemec has the highest ceiling.

Definitely not a hischier level player in either pavkage
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But there is 2 years of team control + there is the allure of uniting the Hughes brothers.

If I am the Canucks GM I ask for Stutzle.
 
PuckG said:
From a position of weakness, don’t be surprised to not get full value for him. Same thing goes for Miller and EP.
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There is no position of weakness when trading a player like Hughes literally every team in the league would be in on him.
 
Cancuks said:
It starts with Nemec + Silayev, then keep adding...
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Nemec, Silayev, Mercer, 2025 1st. +Haula, Kovacevic for cap.
Probably some random bodies going east for contract count reasons. Throw in random draft picks to appease the DraftKing Gods. Off chance VAN takes Casey over Nemec. Jersey needs to and would throw the farm for Quinn.
 
n8 said:
Nemec, Silayev, Mercer, 2025 1st. +Haula, Kovacevic for cap.
Probably some random bodies going east for contract count reasons. Throw in random draft picks to appease the DraftKing Gods. Off chance VAN takes Casey over Nemec. Jersey needs to and would throw the farm for Quinn.
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No they wouldn't. They can sign him for nada in two years.
 
n8 said:
Nemec, Silayev, Mercer, 2025 1st. +Haula, Kovacevic for cap.
Probably some random bodies going east for contract count reasons. Throw in random draft picks to appease the DraftKing Gods. Off chance VAN takes Casey over Nemec. Jersey needs to and would throw the farm for Quinn.
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Mercer
Casey+1st instead of Nemec since Casey would be obsolete as a PPQB behind both hughes bros
1st
proceeds of selling Dougie Hamilton with some amount of retention (estimate around 3 mill so selling him at 6 mill AAV) replacing Silayev.

Hughes-Nemec
Hughes-Pesce
Siegenthaler-Kovacevic

You can throw the farm, but that farm should be from the 2 PPQBs who would not have a role there with Quinn in town.
 
If Quinn Hughes wants to contend, it’s clear he will be taking his talents to Lake Ontario, where he will see many rd 1 game 7 heart breaks, Toronto!
 
HellOnIce said:
No they wouldn't. They can sign him for nada in two years.
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That sounds rational. You must not be a a NHL GM. A real NHL GM would not try to use logic. They would post a Stephen Colbert "give it to me now" gif and follow it up with a Fry "Shut up and take my money" gif. Delusional optimism that I can appreciate. As a Ranger fan, I love to live in the fantasy that Drury would sell this TDL and weaponize all our cap space to advance our roster and system 5 years but that too is delusional optimism.

dgibb10 said:
Mercer
Casey+1st instead of Nemec since Casey would be obsolete as a PPQB behind both hughes bros
1st
proceeds of selling Dougie Hamilton with some amount of retention (estimate around 3 mill so selling him at 6 mill AAV) replacing Silayev.

Hughes-Nemec
Hughes-Pesce
Siegenthaler-Kovacevic

You can throw the farm, but that farm should be from the 2 PPQBs who would not have a role there with Quinn in town.
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Q.Hughes is a RHD. Mercer, Casey, 1st is super laughable. "Proceeds of Hamilton" also sounds like fantasy land. GMTF is gonna make a run and sell off his 1st pairing RHD? I won't even give that a delusional optimism label. That's straight up delusional. You think you can just take Hughes from VAN. I get wanting to get a good deal but your offer for the reigning Norris Trophy winner is a fading Dawson Mercer, a magic bean, and your 1st round draft pick? Yes, I called Casey a bean because he's 5'9" and tiny. He's smaller than Zac Jones. Shows promise, yes yes Lane Hutson blah blah blah, but let's not mistake him for a stud like Nemec or Silayev and if he is then you'd be ok with treating the 3 as interchangeable.

So update: accept your case to send Casey over Nemec.
Silayev, Casey, 1st, 2nd, Mercer, Haula, Kovacevic
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Hughes, 3rd

I'm trying to be impartial here. You can totally just say "that's too rich for my blood" or "that's fair but I would not want to do that trade."
 
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n8 said:
That sounds rational. You must not be a a NHL GM. A real NHL GM would not try to use logic. They would post a Stephen Colbert "give it to me now" gif and follow it up with a Fry "Shut up and take my money" gif. Delusional optimism that I can appreciate. As a Ranger fan, I love to live in the fantasy that Drury would sell this TDL and weaponize all our cap space to advance our roster and system 5 years but that too is delusional optimism.


Q.Hughes is a RHD. Mercer, Casey, 1st is super laughable. "Proceeds of Hamilton" also sounds like fantasy land. GMTF is gonna make a run and sell off his 1st pairing RHD? I won't even give that a delusional optimism label. That's straight up delusional. You think you can just take Hughes from VAN. I get wanting to get a good deal but your offer for the reigning Norris Trophy winner is a fading Dawson Mercer, a magic bean, and your 1st round draft pick? Yes, I called Casey a bean because he's 5'9" and tiny. He's smaller than Zac Jones. Shows promise, yes yes Lane Hutson blah blah blah, but let's not mistake him for a stud like Nemec or Silayev and if he is then you'd be ok with treating the 3 as interchangeable.

So update: accept your case to send Casey over Nemec.
Silayev, Casey, 1st, 2nd, Mercer, Haula, Kovacevic
<-->
Hughes, 3rd

I'm trying to be impartial here. You can totally just say "that's too rich for my blood" or "that's fair but I would not want to do that trade."
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It was
Mercer
Casey
1st
1st
Hamilton proceeds

And the trade would be in the offseason. Hamilton being moved in the offseason is something that has been discussed among NJD fans as an option.

And yes, if Quinn comes in it would be Hamilton out.

Luke-Quinn-Hamilton all making massive money is not feasible. And again, a big part of hamilton's value comes from him being one of the best PP Dmen in the league. There are few guys I would place over him on the PP. Quinn hughes is 1 of those few

Casey is a top tier PPQB.

Nemec and Silayev are not.

Again, with Quinn in, you are wasting a PPQB if you keep him. So for NJD, the defensive dmen and the more even strength driver in silayev and Nemec make more sense to keep. To a team like Vancouver in this case who would be without a PP QB (which you need), that value of casey's impact there is accentuated

So, with Quinn Hughes on the team, a large part of what Casey provides will forever be wasted since there will be no PP opening.

And yes, I do view casey as less than Nemec. Hence why I replaced Nemec in the proposal with Casey AND a 1st.
 
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