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And Ellen Hughes will go down as the greatest hockey mom of all time
Player Discussion Quinn Hughes, Pt. VII
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That's a small body, gentlemen.
There'd be a debate here for sure with the likes of the Sutters and Staal's, along with Bobby and Dennis Hull; Phil Esposito and Tony; and maybe the Mahovlich brothers.
But safe to say that when Luke Hughes arrives in the NHL......I doubt that three brothers will ever have the same Impact as the Hughes' in NHL history.
I think Hedman’s production is probably too far behind the pack to get a ton of votes this year. But there’s so many guys over 60 points already that I think Hughes’ still lower defensive rep will probably push him back a bit.
Karlsson’s +/- also looks worse due to empty net goals. He’s +7 5v5 on a team that’s -41 5v5. His big minuses have come from short handed goals against (-9), and empty net goals against (-16).
TomWillander1RD
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Naturalstattrick let’s your break things down by situation.
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Anyone saying he is poor defensively either hasn’t adjusted their information since 2021, or thinks that a defender can’t be under 6 feet tall.
He's going to be the first Norris Trophy winner in franchise history.
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rocket richard is a top three playoff performer ever and probably a top five goal scorer
henri richard is a top five defensive forward ever
the first two hughes boys have been extremely impressive so far but man…
I agree that the Richards are the ones to beat. Staals, Sutters, Statsnys were all very impressive but none as good as the Richards.
If J Hughes has a Crosby-like career and Q Hughes continues his pace they will definitely be the same conversation as the Richards. If L Hughes has a serious career…
It will be a fun debate.
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Just about everybody around Hughes, including Hughes himself, figures he has more to give as he continues to mature. Hard to fathom that he could be even better in the seasons ahead, but he seems convinced.
So if he doesn't win the Norris this season, it's bound to happen as he moves into his mid-20's.
So if he doesn't win the Norris this season, it's bound to happen as he moves into his mid-20's.
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Perceptions are hard to change. It took people how many years to realize Horvat isn't going to be a Bergeron-like player? Some still think he is a shutdown player. Most people don't have time to watch every game for every team, so it takes a long time for them to adjust their opinions. Reporters are the same, that is why trophy/award voting can sometimes look weird.
I think the important thing is that we, Nucks fans, know and recognize how good Hughes is. The awards and recognitions are nice, but we don't need it to validate how much Quinn has improved.
Nah, no set of brothers are going to be better than Wayne and Brent Gretzky, ever!
For a set of 3-brothers, the Statsnys are also really good. I wonder if the Hughes could reach that level as a whole. I don't know if any of them individually could best Peter Statsny, but as a group the Hughes has a chance. I'm sure the Hughes will end up being better than the Staals.
Stastny was outstanding and will be difficult to beat. But Hughes has a 40+ goal season already under his belt as a 21 year old. It's hard to compare different eras. Stastny made his mark in the high scoring 80s. I still think the Richard brothers are the ones to beat. Rocket Richard was still a point per game and > 0.5g/gm player in his late 30s. Again, different era.
As I said in another post....it'll be a fun debate in about 10 years.
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I was curious, so I looked. He has one 4 point game in his career so far, last season vs. Ottawa, 4 assists.
But he has 10+ 3 point games in his career over the years.
He’s better than Niedermayer was at any point in his 20s.
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Unless your name is Cale Makar or Adam Fox because, you know… shiny things and pack mentality….
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he’s not as good as 2003 playoffs niedermayer by a longshot. that was the best nieds ever played and he was at the very end of his twenties during that conn smythe-worthy run.
offensively, he is already clearly better than niedermayer ever was, full stop.
