People constantly hold it against him. Constantly. They post absolutely nonsense takes driven by advanced stats that pretty much suck.
Drance is a whiny asshole and I'm sick of him too.
Player Discussion Quinn Hughes, Pt. VII
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Drance is a whiny asshole and I'm sick of him too.
You’re right. Hughes should win the Norris this year and every year after. No one is close. It’ll be renamed the Hughes trophy. We bow down to your superior hockey intellect.
Like, get real. You’ve demonstrated you know absolutely nothing about the NHL.
Okay make an argument for f***ing Sergachev over hughes.
Only the most delusional of TBL homers would make that argument and they would be wrong.
Lol. Saying he’s not as good as Fox is not “holding it against him” or “nonsense analytics”. It’s a reasonable opinion.
Please show me where I said there is a credible argument to consider Sergachev as better than Hughes. I’ll wait.
last year Makar won the norris even though he had 10 less points than Josi.
Wonder how many votes he will get if he closes the gap in points.
Wonder how many votes he will get if he closes the gap in points.
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Although it seems like Karlsson winning Norris is a foregone conclusion, just for sheer points, the gap to Hughes, etc. But it's hard not to notice the -17 for Karlsson and the +18 for Hughes.
I could stare at it all day.
Regardless you gotta think he'll get a nomination.
Is it technique or is it strength?
Makar uses 95 flex stick while being 1 inch taller than Hughes.
Makar uses 95 flex stick while being 1 inch taller than Hughes.
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Since February 7, 2023 these are the top 5 players in the league for icetime.
Over that same period here are the top 5 point scoring defencemen.
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I don't have a point to make, I just think it's pretty cool to see a Canuck player at the top of the league even if the date range is cherry picked.
Over that same period here are the top 5 point scoring defencemen.
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I don't have a point to make, I just think it's pretty cool to see a Canuck player at the top of the league even if the date range is cherry picked.
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PavelBure10
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What an unbelievable player. Hughes skating and edge work makes him such a great player to watch. He constantly has a puck on a string and controls the play at will. It really is unfair to be able to skate as well as Hughes. With Hughes focusing more on the defensive side of the game, it has made Hughes into a legitimate superstar, and no longer a player who the whole NHL fanbase can choose to ignore. Quinn is unbelievable and we haven't even seen the best of him yet, which is scary.
Easily the best defenseman is franchise history.
Easily the best defenseman is franchise history.
Quinn Hughes has an exceptionally team friendly contract at this point. A Top 10 player in the league locked up through nearly his entire prime at nowhere near Top 10 player money. One of Benning's few bright moves.
The surplus value he brings over the length of this contract is going to be extremely high.
His current box-score stats under this deal:
146 games played, 140 points, +28
And per the eye test and intangibles: absolutely dominant when on the ice, especially in the last few months.
The surplus value he brings over the length of this contract is going to be extremely high.
His current box-score stats under this deal:
146 games played, 140 points, +28
And per the eye test and intangibles: absolutely dominant when on the ice, especially in the last few months.
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Why would Canucks make that trade? Two 1st round picks in 30's range don't have even a fraction of the value of Hughes.
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To be fair to Karlsson he is playing top minutes for a team that has a almost a -70 goal differential. Another thing in Karlsson's favor is he has 30 points more than anyone on his team.
Hughes +18 is even more impressive when you consider how bad are goaltending has been this year though.
Hughes being bad defensively hasn't really been a thing since the 2021 season. He's improved tremendously in that regard since.
Draft picks ain’t gonna be worth it but as a hockey fan, the idea of watching hughes with mcdrai is like a wet dream.
I was watching his draft video and they were saying even then that Hughes just defends different. His strengths are not at all the traditional strengths for a dman.
I think his style just harder to learn at the NHL level because guys are bigger and faster.
If he can have a couple of 4p nights to finish the season, and get within 10-15 of EK... precedent has been set, even though a couple shady voters screwed Josi last season.
Should be ahead of guys like Fox/Makar etc.
Should be ahead of guys like Fox/Makar etc.
Canucks have had some elite players over the years, but I don't think I can remember a guy like Hughes who basically controls the play every minute he's out there.
I suppose you can't blame Tocchet for playing him 25-30 minutes a night. The rink just tilts in the other direction every time Hughes steps on the ice.
Over the years Canuck fans have bemoaned the lack of a legit super-star d-man, who was a candidate to win the Norris year in and year out. But after more than half a century of existence, the Canucks have finally found one.
I suppose you can't blame Tocchet for playing him 25-30 minutes a night. The rink just tilts in the other direction every time Hughes steps on the ice.
Over the years Canuck fans have bemoaned the lack of a legit super-star d-man, who was a candidate to win the Norris year in and year out. But after more than half a century of existence, the Canucks have finally found one.
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He has to finish in top 10 voting
that is all I ask
if he doesnt, that would be f'n ridiculous.
that is all I ask
if he doesnt, that would be f'n ridiculous.
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He deserves a nomination imo. If he finishes below the Top 5 I'd be pissed
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You got legacy players that I think will finish higher
Hedman has been garbage this year, Tampa fans will tell you and every underlying number has tanked.
But he’ll finish higher than Hughes because they are a playoff team.
The Hughes brothers have a good chance of going down as the best set of brothers ever to play. And it might not even be close.
