Quinn Hughes Mega thread: Top in points, Norris consideration, MVP and Canucks fans hearts

[JAK]

playing with Tanev who people dog due to injury is a huge reason he’s getting the ice time and opportunity to excel. Tanev is actually mobile and a top shut down Dman in the league.
Prove me wrong?

Tanev is a black hole in terms of Corsi

 

[JAK]

Quinn Hughes Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

2019-20 Vancouver Canucks Roster and Statistics | Hockey-Reference.com

Cale Makar Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

2019-20 Colorado Avalanche Roster and Statistics | Hockey-Reference.com

TL;DR - Hughes is not just playing in a top 4 role with 20.40 TOI a game, but excelling at it. Generating more chances, with more Dzone starts than Makar. Makar, playing less, but giving more sheltered minutes and producing more points (assists).

With identical usages in terms of zone starts, I'm surprised that Hughes's EV CF% of 56.5% vs Makar's 45% wow.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Tanev is a black hole in terms of Corsi

Look at stats for shot suppression and ability to shut down other teams when on the ice.
If healthy he will be a top 3 UFA this summer and being a right handed shot only adds to that.

Educate yourself man!

 

[JAK]

Look at stats for shot suppression and ability to shut down other teams when on the ice.
If healthy he will be a top 3 UFA this summer and being a right handed shot only adds to that.

Educate yourself man!

I was referring to the fact that since Tanev is paired with Hughes, Hughes isn't benefitting from having a partner that is carrying him offensively

NHL Lines Advanced Stats If you sort this by shot attempts on defensive lines over 90 minutes.
Before tonight's game against the Red Wings, as a pair, they are at 54.1% CF%, and more importantly, 47.42 Shots attempts again per 60, good for 5th.

 

[Canuck16]

Hughes has been mostly excellent as a Vancouver Canuck.

 

[buud]

Very impressed with him. Very interesting style, and he is going to be a wrecking ball on the PP.

I tried describing him, and the term that came to mind, is that he.. sorta... kinda... is like a ghost. He's so slick that he dangles people, and when they take a swipe at the puck, he easily walks around them. Sometimes, even appeared to go right through them, because of his close proximity.

Skating, hockey sense, and skillz up the wazoo. A treat to watch, and yes, does make some errors, so he's not perfect.

I the kid can stay healthy, avoid big checks, he's quite possibly going to be a generational talent.

 

[nucks88]

The points are finally starting to come so then PP time is all he needs? The LOL of the night was a Nucks fan already mentioning a Canucks/Sabres final this season. That gave me a good laugh.

Hey Buddy, what I said is "nothing would be better"...franchise brothers...50th season...I didn't say it was going to happen..."Reading is Fundamental"...

 

[Love]

Hughes is a future top ten defenceman for sure I doubt it’ll take him long to get there. The one thing that’s blowing my mind is how does the same GM that drafted Pettersson (5th oa) and Hughes (7th oa) also draft Virtanen (6th oa) and Juolevi (5th oa)? Is drafting that much of a crapshoot?

The Pettersson pick was Gradin (our Swedish scout) all the way. Apparently Gradin also strongly advocated for Nylander in 2014.

Juolevi was entirely a Benning blunder because he thought he needed a defenceman. Honestly I give Benning essentially no rated it for some of the good drafting decisions because it’s also become clear that our successful American selections (Boeser, Hughes, Demko, Gaudette) we’re because of Judd Brackett’s influence. He’s the one who deserves a lot of credit.

 

[Kcb12345]

This Hughes vs Makar debate is gonna come down to who is better in their own end. Right now I haven't seen enough of Hughes to say who is better defensively but as someone that has seen a lot of Makar, he's not a guy you want to see stuck in your own end in a defensive situation right now. Just not a very responsible player defensively but a dominant player offensively. Think MacKinnon from the backend but with MacKinnon's defense too lol. Need to catch some Canucks games tho

 

[GetFocht]

The Pettersson pick was Gradin (our Swedish scout) all the way. Apparently Gradin also strongly advocated for Nylander in 2014.

Juolevi was entirely a Benning blunder because he thought he needed a defenceman. Honestly I give Benning essentially no rated it for some of the good drafting decisions because it’s also become clear that our successful American selections (Boeser, Hughes, Demko, Gaudette) we’re because of Judd Brackett’s influence. He’s the one who deserves a lot of credit.

Nope.

Pettersson pick was highly advocated by Ron Delrome. There are articles out there from quotes of Canucks management that proves this.

 

[lawrence]

The Pettersson pick was Gradin (our Swedish scout) all the way. Apparently Gradin also strongly advocated for Nylander in 2014.

Juolevi was entirely a Benning blunder because he thought he needed a defenceman. Honestly I give Benning essentially no rated it for some of the good drafting decisions because it’s also become clear that our successful American selections (Boeser, Hughes, Demko, Gaudette) we’re because of Judd Brackett’s influence. He’s the one who deserves a lot of credit.

Ben Kuzma: Delorme delivered first hard sell to get Pettersson on Canucks’ draft radar

Our scouting staff believed juolevi will be the best player at 5. It be stupid move for benning to ignore his entire crews advice to pick tkachuk. This is a scouting error on our end. Happens to all teams.

 

[GetFocht]

No team in the league has a 100% hit rate on draft picks including ones in the top 10. What you can hope for is assembling a young core of 4-5 really good young players through the draft over a course of a few years and insulate the line up with quality vets. Canucks are in an excellent position with Horvat, Pettersson, Boeser, Hughes, and Demko already contributing at the NHL level.

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

The Pettersson pick was Gradin (our Swedish scout) all the way. Apparently Gradin also strongly advocated for Nylander in 2014.

Juolevi was entirely a Benning blunder because he thought he needed a defenceman. Honestly I give Benning essentially no rated it for some of the good drafting decisions because it’s also become clear that our successful American selections (Boeser, Hughes, Demko, Gaudette) we’re because of Judd Brackett’s influence. He’s the one who deserves a lot of credit.

So anything good Benning doesn't get credit for, but he takes the blame for anything bad? Way to be objective, it doesn't sound like you have any type agenda at all.

In your mind, who gets credit for Podkolzin? Or do wait to see if he pans out to see if we credit others or blame JB.

 

[Chainshot]

Hughes has been mostly excellent as a Vancouver Canuck.

He remains one of the players I seek out to watch in the NHL.

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

I know that this is a Quinn Hughes thread, but I just want to say that everyone in here suggesting that a 6 foot 3, 21 year old Dman with 16 points in 23 AHL games despite 2 major injuries is a certain bust/blunder may look silly by the new year.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

This Hughes vs Makar debate is gonna come down to who is better in their own end. Right now I haven't seen enough of Hughes to say who is better defensively but as someone that has seen a lot of Makar, he's not a guy you want to see stuck in your own end in a defensive situation right now. Just not a very responsible player defensively but a dominant player offensively. Think MacKinnon from the backend but with MacKinnon's defense too lol. Need to catch some Canucks games tho

Quinn is already above average defensively. Not afraid to have him on the ice defensively at all. He competes hard on the back check and on to loose pucks, has excellent positioning and an excellent stick for breaking up plays. The only problem for Hughes defensively is he lacks the strength to take the body against the bigger Draisaitl sized players.

 

[GetFocht]

I know that this is a Quinn Hughes thread, but I just want to say that everyone in here suggesting that a 6 foot 3, 21 year old Dman with 16 points in 23 AHL games despite 2 major injuries is a certain bust/blunder may look silly by the new year.

Juolevi is actually one of the players I'm very interested to see how he develops, he's faced a ton of adversity at this point and I am rooting for him.

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

Juolevi is actually one of the players I'm very interested to see how he develops, he's faced a ton of adversity at this point and I am rooting for him.

I agree. Everyone knew he was going to be a longer term project, even before losing nearly 2 years of development. He is big, smart and can skate, and has produced a fair amount so far in the AHL. I still feel he develops into a top 4 D, and will be up in the NHL by the new year.

 

[Habs10Habs]

I'll admit to staying up late a few nights to watch him play. Every time he has the puck, my eyes widen to see what he's going to do next.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

playing with Tanev who people dog due to injury is a huge reason he’s getting the ice time and opportunity to excel. Tanev is actually mobile and a top shut down Dman in the league.
Prove me wrong?

Watch a game.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

playing with Tanev who people dog due to injury is a huge reason he’s getting the ice time and opportunity to excel. Tanev is actually mobile and a top shut down Dman in the league.
Prove me wrong?

Also, shit prove your own claims.

 

[hcg]

Virtanen your guess is good as mine, even if he has slowly developed into an almost serviceable depth guy. Juolevi has been derailed pretty bad by injury, and has been looking better in the AHL this year, and has always shown off his strong vision, IQ, and passing, even when his skating faltered due to those same injuries. Probably will never be the right choice over Tkachuk, but he could still end up being a pretty good D from that draft.

He wasn't trackign well before the injuries started piling up.

 

[hcg]

This Hughes vs Makar debate is gonna come down to who is better in their own end. Right now I haven't seen enough of Hughes to say who is better defensively but as someone that has seen a lot of Makar, he's not a guy you want to see stuck in your own end in a defensive situation right now. Just not a very responsible player defensively but a dominant player offensively. Think MacKinnon from the backend but with MacKinnon's defense too lol. Need to catch some Canucks games tho

Hughes is small and he makes rookie mistakes sometimes, but he's smart and pretty solid in his own end.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

I agree. Everyone knew he was going to be a longer term project, even before losing nearly 2 years of development. He is big, smart and can skate, and has produced a fair amount so far in the AHL. I still feel he develops into a top 4 D, and will be up in the NHL by the new year.

Canucks are extremely fortunate to have landed Pettersson and Q. Hughes as the Virtanen and Juolevi picks are looking like busts. Don’t think Juolevi will be more than a 5-6 at this point, hope I’m wrong.

 

[nowhereman]

The Pettersson pick was Gradin (our Swedish scout) all the way. Apparently Gradin also strongly advocated for Nylander in 2014.

Juolevi was entirely a Benning blunder because he thought he needed a defenceman. Honestly I give Benning essentially no rated it for some of the good drafting decisions because it’s also become clear that our successful American selections (Boeser, Hughes, Demko, Gaudette) we’re because of Judd Brackett’s influence. He’s the one who deserves a lot of credit.

Ahh, gotta love the old "I'm going to criticize your bad moves and give someone else credit for your good moves" routine... very HFBoards Canucks of you.