GDT: PS #5 - 09/25/17 | flyers @ RANGERS | 7:00 PM - MSG

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Miller has played both wings to the best of My knowledge

The more you know. I thought I only remembered him at LW and occasionally RW the past 2 years. Nash has switched around both wings though. I think we'd also want to keep Miller away from Hayes, and maybe even limit Nash's minutes due to his iffy injuries the past couple years.
 
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What the ****, Zuccarello?

I think the bigger takeaway there is how the **** was Staal -1?
 
Andersson could easily fit in a bottom six role. He makes a lot of smart plays defensively. The question is would he be better going back to Sweden to further develop his offensive game?

And the answer is unequivocally yes.
 
I'm sticking with my lines and question marks except now I'll take ADA over Smith.

Nash - Miller - Zuccarello
Kreider - Zbad - Buch
Vesey - Hayes - Grabner
?? - Chytil - Fast

McD - ??
Skjei - Shattenkirk
Graves - ADA/ Smith
Staal
 
Exactly. Wasn't he -6 after a period?

He was.

I know he got off for a change right as the Flyers had probably the best shift of the game during the 2nd (TDA couldn't change, I think Kampfer may have been the other D on for that shift) but he was incredibly abysmal from start to finish. I think he connected on 2 passes the entire night and got turned around a bunch of times.
 
Chytil has had a lot of defensive lapses. Not sure he is ready yet. He would spend a lot of time in AVs doghouse

Ya I think people need to pump the brakes a bit. The kind of things coaches look for and is absolutely needed as an NHLer all 4 of our young guys had a few issues with, which is expected from young guys. The same kind of things that initially Miller and Duclair had problems with. Things like picking your spots to use your skill and knowing the right play in the situation all 4 had some errors with it. Trying to dangle entering the zone after a long shift and turning it over rather than dumping it. Forcing passes trying to break out and turning it over. Personally I think Lettieri had the best game out of the 4 of them between generating chances and being reliable with and without the puck. Andersson had a couple turnovers in his zone but played great defensively with some nice passing as well. Chytil's skill is obvious but like you said he had some issues in his own zone as well as some turnovers. Thought Nieves wasn't nearly as noticable tonight but was fine in his own zone really only 1 bad turnover. One other thing I want to add is the polarization and certainties of their potential of the 2 TEENAGERS on this board is wiiiilllld
 
Thoughts, ranked in order of good to bad:

One of the best preseason games I've ever seen. I understand why the staff plays the fringe guys, but it's so much better when the only guys out on the ice are those who have a chance to make the team.

Also, a comment on the faceoffs. I think the numbers are misleading, because the Rangers played a bunch of games before the league told the linesmen to back off their no-nonsense policy, while the Flyers still hadn't played at that point. I would argue that made the Blueshirts more tentative to start, as was borne out by the fact that the Rangers adjusted and got much better at FOs in the 3rd period.

On to the analysis:


Impressed me:

MCDONAGH - best player on the ice, on both sides. All-star vet warming into shape.

LUNDQVIST - sharp, on his game, Hank. Need I say more?

NASH - excellent Nash game with production. Also, LOVE him riding shotgun with Chytil. Exactly what the kid needs.

CHYTIL - ooooooozes skill. Just a dangerous rookie, even more so than Buch was last year, which is saying something. The last forward prospect I was this excited about was Kovalev. Seriously, even on the play where he got blown up, he made the right pass. Once or twice lost his man, and nearly flubbed that play where he tried to burst up the middle from behind the net, but for the most part excellent center defense as well, IMO.

BUCHNEVICH - would have had him up there with McDonagh if not for losing Sanheim on the second goal. Strong Buch is going to be a beast this year.

KREIDER - dangerous all game long, played his speed, shot, heavy body game down the wing. Was really impressed with the d-zone play where he lifted a stick from behind.

ZIBANEJAD - a bit invisible early, and then shades of early season/playoffs Zibanejad. Hard on the puck, not afraid to shoot, dangerous. I was pleased.

ZUCCARELLO - classic Zucc. Didn't produce as much as he sometimes does, so I've got him beneath some others, but was still quite good. Didn't think the penalty was all that useful.


Okay/up-and-down:

FONTAINE - displayed phenomenal fourth line instincts. Blocked shots, pressure on the puck. Got pinned some, but not bad.

NIEVES - very noticeable (all good) in the first, not as much thereafter, but played an excellent bottom 6 game.

DEANGELO - I hesitate on this one. Almost had him in the top third, and there were a couple of plays late second/early third that were gorgeous, but there were stretches where he was trapped in his own end. Just don't know how much of that was to be pinned on Staal and how much on him. Overall, some excellent breakouts, both skating and passing, and not textbook D, but some really nice recoveries/covers for his partner. Good to see.

ANDERSSON - continues to play a solid subtle game, but also flashed one play in particular where he drove the entire Philly squad back off the line on an entry. Never gives up on a play, phenomenal defensive play for a rookie center. Didn't make much noise in the offensive zone, though I did like some of his subtle passes and tenacity. Chytil is the more offensively gifted player, but he's also being put in more of a position to benefit offensively. Still think Lias should make the team as a bottom sixer. Think he has more to offer as he gets older.

CAREY - have him pegged as a surefire AHLer, but this was his best game by far. Made a case for himself.

LETTIERI - really like his upside as a bottom-6er. Suddenly the organization has a bunch of prospects to play the role, which is great. Continued to do what he does well in terms of pressing the puck, shooting, being a waterbug on the ice. BUT, missed some clears, failed to get it deep a couple of times, etc. Like his future as a 3rd liner, just don't know if his flashes of good and bad outweigh the more neutral, less flashy plays of a guy like Fontaine.

SHATTENKIRK - not as noticeable tonight. A couple of classic passes, one almost huge mistake. If this is what qualifies as a down game, I'm not worried.

SMITH - solid, unspectacular. He has an advantage in that he brings size and sandpaper that we don't have from many others, but if our kids keep progressing as they have, he may be traded within 12 months (and I say that meaning no disrespect).


Expected to be cut:

PUEMPEL - a decent game, but I wonder how much of that was the result of the work his linemates did. Disappears too often. Did not make any egregious plays, just didn't anything that stood out the way those above him did.

STAAL - crikey, he's toast. A couple of nice plays joining the rush (so long as he was passing, and not receiving), but still brutal in the D-zone. Unfortunately I think he makes the team, but he's not one of our top six based on anything other than experience.

KAMPFER - ugh. Looked AWFUL. In the past, I've liked him as an 8th D, and I wonder if he was trying to take his shot to look like he belonged in the top 6 or just had a bad game, but either way, he stuck out in a really bad way. Every time the Flyers had the puck for an extended shift in the zone it seemed like he was involved –*and what the heck was he doing on the first goal against?
 
No. Miller has spent the majority of his time on Right Wing; then Left wing; then the few games at C. Miller has played more RW in his NHL career than any other position.

You are just wrong here.

Last year was LW.

http://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/isolate/millej.93/wrap

There is even a heat graph to show where he is in the offensive zone. Why would a RW be on the left side of the ice way more than any other spot?
 
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Chytil with another strong game. Certainly making the argument to stick around. The lineup actually looks better to me with him in it but I would still assume he doesn't make the squad. Lines seem so much clearer if he made the team.
 
Sorry but he spent significant time playing right wing with Hayes and Grabner last year, He also has said he prefers RW but can play anywhere.

Grabner played RW when with JT and Hayes, and after that line ended Grabner moved to LW with Fast at RW.
 
You are just wrong here.

Last year was LW.

http://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/isolate/millej.93/wrap

There is even a heat graph to show where he is in the offensive zone. Why would a RW be on the left side of the ice way more than any other spot?

The Rangers have been lacking in Right Handed shots...and Miller & Zuuc have been the 2 guys to consistently play their off-wing for the team. Nash on occassion, as well.

I'm not going to look at your heat graph, lol

Miller has spent a lot of time on Hayes' Right side.
 
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