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A lot of professional scouts said that if he continued how he was playing, not including time with Rangers, he would have been a Top 10 pick.
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A lot of professional scouts said that if he continued how he was playing, not including time with Rangers, he would have been a Top 10 pick.
Machinehead
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I get the feeling that Miller is going to be our new #2 center folks and I think I'm more than OK with that
Nash- Miller- Zucca
Please and thank you..
Ps..Not sure why my cell is making all these crazy spacings in my sentences but you get the point lol
Nash- Miller- Zucca
Please and thank you..
Ps..Not sure why my cell is making all these crazy spacings in my sentences but you get the point lol
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
I was impressed by Chytil again and thought DeAngelo is clearly the guy who starts with the team. Pionk, so far, has the inside track on first call up.
Stromwall looked like he can be a nice bottom six wing. Lettieri looked like he can be a very solid bottom six guy. Look better than Puempel/Tambellini as that last forward with Fast out.
Desharnais didn't get the PP time he got last game with the big guns and was much less noticeable.
Nell was pleasantly surprising. Bereglazov disappointed, IMO. Kampfer annoys me one second and then does something good another. He'll never be a regular, but as has been his career, he can fill in.
Vesey looks sharp but he looks to pass too much. Buch showed flashes and was close to something special a few times. Would like to see him pull the trigger more as well.
Stromwall looked like he can be a nice bottom six wing. Lettieri looked like he can be a very solid bottom six guy. Look better than Puempel/Tambellini as that last forward with Fast out.
Desharnais didn't get the PP time he got last game with the big guns and was much less noticeable.
Nell was pleasantly surprising. Bereglazov disappointed, IMO. Kampfer annoys me one second and then does something good another. He'll never be a regular, but as has been his career, he can fill in.
Vesey looks sharp but he looks to pass too much. Buch showed flashes and was close to something special a few times. Would like to see him pull the trigger more as well.
I think Kampfer would be OK with the right partner to compliment him but he'll never be "the guy".
He had a decent game though.
Ya.. He's far from useless but not likely to make much of an impact from what I've seen thus far.
There are better options available.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Lettieri from Chytil and Buchnevich on the PP.
Andersson didn't play. Chytil was very good, although not as good as the last game. Big game from his line, which also included Miller and Buchnevich. Those guys could've all had a number of points.
Hayes and Vesey were okay, but Hayes screwed up their chances because of bad decisions. Lettieri was decent enough. The rest of the forwards looked like AHL'ers, maybe Desharnais was also okay.
All the defensemen had some struggles. DeAngelo, Pionk and Graves all looked bad on goals they were on the ice for, but all three played well. Bereglazov was solid, a few shaky moments early on but mostly settled in, just not very exciting, but later on he made a number of underrated plays defensively. Skjei made some plays with the puck, but struggled with his defense, for what you'd expect of an NHL veteran.
Goalies were both fine, I wouldn't say any better or worse than that.
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Even though he's been playing wing, playing center looks like it comes more natural to him as that's the position he's played before AV syndrome kicked in.
He looks much more comfortable taking on the extra responsibilities than Hayes does IMO.
I take Miller over Hayes any day of the week..
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Thoughts, ranked in order of good to bad:
Firstly, I understand why the coaching staff does it, but I HATE these games where they run out 12 out of 20 guys who are on the cusp simply to see what they have. C'mon, make the obvious cuts and let's get down to the brass tacks.
Anyhoo...
Impressed me:
SKJEI - best player on the ice for the Rangers. To have such a combo of skill, speed, and power...
CHYTIL – unbelievable skill. Had the first assist on the only goal, plus multiple other chances, not lacking in strength, and plays a surprisingly aware defensive game (also seems to be really good at FOs). Give the man his 9 games at the very least.
BUCHNEVICH - much better game. Possession we're used to seeing and instrumental on some of the great passing plays where they came close, but never did put it in. Also, thought he was more aware in the D-zone. Can't wait to see him this year.
VESEY - solid game. Looks to have taken a step forward. More assertive as opposed to simply reactive. If he can simply add 10% to what he did last year, that's a big deal.
NELL - only one period, but I was super impressed with his positioning and how big he made himself seem between the pipes. The save on the breakaway was textbook.
Okay/up-and-down:
HAYES - not as assertive as his first game, but still the same general style I'm hoping to see. One offseason to lose weight, another to get more assertive. Overall positive.
MILLER - felt like he was more tentative this game, but also felt like he was trying to provide leadership with Chytil and Buch on his line. Not worthy of top category performance, but very much a positive to see. I was pleased.
LETTIERI - after two bad periods to start his debut, four good periods to show some positive energizer bunny play, with excellent speed and a good shot. I think he's got an NHL future, potentially even on the 3rd line.
DEANGELO - great start, but fell like he tried to do a little too much and fell off towards the end. Wonder if he was somewhat the victim of the number of lesser forwards the Rangers dressed not giving his rush game much to work with. Love the confidence with the puck; occasionally have to close my eyes when he gets lined up for a hit against the boards in the D-zone.
PIONK - kinda the opposite of DeAngelo. Felt like he had a bit of a rough start, and then found his groove. Does get knocked out of the play a bit in the D-zone early on, but recovered well. Was a significant part of the excellent possession engine in the last period.
GRAVES - not as impressive as his first game, but still impressive. Love his combo of skill and physicality. Felt like he missed a couple of chances (including the goal against), but also made some difference making plays in the D-zone.
PAVALEC - no major complaints, but gave up two goals in two periods and didn't make any wowza saves. Acceptable for a backup, but not worthy of the top tier.
BEREGLAZOV - rough start; didn't even notice him the second period (did he play?); a positive in the third. Essentially, left me wanting to see him in his next game. Get the sense he'll start in HFD and be the first call up.
Expected to be cut:
DESHARNAIS - I know people like him, and the speed is a positive, but I just see a placeholder.
CAREY - will be a GREAT AHLer for us. Has many positive tools (strength, shot, hockey IQ), but doesn't really keep up with the NHL game. Don't mind him as the first call-up; worried about our season if he's playing significant minutes.
PUEMPEL - had some good moments again, but at this stage of his career, there are just too many shifts where nothing happens. Decent candidate to be the 13th forward out of camp.
TAMBELLINI - one or two plays per game where he shows something that give me hope. And he's got great natural gifts. Continue to hope he may have solid 40 pt. 2nd-3rd line potential -- BUT he isn't showing nearly enough to break camp with the team.
STROMWALL - like the speed, but... man, just too many plays where he thinks the puck is in one part of the ice, and it's actually 50-60 feet away and heading in the other direction.
FARNHAM - a couple of nice shifts in a game of mixed quality players where he laid some nice hits, and even made a couple of decent passes, but essentially a reactive thumper as opposed to a player who directed the play on any shift I recall.
KAMPFER - the downside of an 8th D. Played too much, got exposed. Has basic technical skill and understanding of what the coach wants him to do, but is too small and too slow to be anything other than depth. (Which, by the way, kudos, that's a lot better than I can say for my athletic skill!)
Firstly, I understand why the coaching staff does it, but I HATE these games where they run out 12 out of 20 guys who are on the cusp simply to see what they have. C'mon, make the obvious cuts and let's get down to the brass tacks.
Anyhoo...
Impressed me:
SKJEI - best player on the ice for the Rangers. To have such a combo of skill, speed, and power...
CHYTIL – unbelievable skill. Had the first assist on the only goal, plus multiple other chances, not lacking in strength, and plays a surprisingly aware defensive game (also seems to be really good at FOs). Give the man his 9 games at the very least.
BUCHNEVICH - much better game. Possession we're used to seeing and instrumental on some of the great passing plays where they came close, but never did put it in. Also, thought he was more aware in the D-zone. Can't wait to see him this year.
VESEY - solid game. Looks to have taken a step forward. More assertive as opposed to simply reactive. If he can simply add 10% to what he did last year, that's a big deal.
NELL - only one period, but I was super impressed with his positioning and how big he made himself seem between the pipes. The save on the breakaway was textbook.
Okay/up-and-down:
HAYES - not as assertive as his first game, but still the same general style I'm hoping to see. One offseason to lose weight, another to get more assertive. Overall positive.
MILLER - felt like he was more tentative this game, but also felt like he was trying to provide leadership with Chytil and Buch on his line. Not worthy of top category performance, but very much a positive to see. I was pleased.
LETTIERI - after two bad periods to start his debut, four good periods to show some positive energizer bunny play, with excellent speed and a good shot. I think he's got an NHL future, potentially even on the 3rd line.
DEANGELO - great start, but fell like he tried to do a little too much and fell off towards the end. Wonder if he was somewhat the victim of the number of lesser forwards the Rangers dressed not giving his rush game much to work with. Love the confidence with the puck; occasionally have to close my eyes when he gets lined up for a hit against the boards in the D-zone.
PIONK - kinda the opposite of DeAngelo. Felt like he had a bit of a rough start, and then found his groove. Does get knocked out of the play a bit in the D-zone early on, but recovered well. Was a significant part of the excellent possession engine in the last period.
GRAVES - not as impressive as his first game, but still impressive. Love his combo of skill and physicality. Felt like he missed a couple of chances (including the goal against), but also made some difference making plays in the D-zone.
PAVALEC - no major complaints, but gave up two goals in two periods and didn't make any wowza saves. Acceptable for a backup, but not worthy of the top tier.
BEREGLAZOV - rough start; didn't even notice him the second period (did he play?); a positive in the third. Essentially, left me wanting to see him in his next game. Get the sense he'll start in HFD and be the first call up.
Expected to be cut:
DESHARNAIS - I know people like him, and the speed is a positive, but I just see a placeholder.
CAREY - will be a GREAT AHLer for us. Has many positive tools (strength, shot, hockey IQ), but doesn't really keep up with the NHL game. Don't mind him as the first call-up; worried about our season if he's playing significant minutes.
PUEMPEL - had some good moments again, but at this stage of his career, there are just too many shifts where nothing happens. Decent candidate to be the 13th forward out of camp.
TAMBELLINI - one or two plays per game where he shows something that give me hope. And he's got great natural gifts. Continue to hope he may have solid 40 pt. 2nd-3rd line potential -- BUT he isn't showing nearly enough to break camp with the team.
STROMWALL - like the speed, but... man, just too many plays where he thinks the puck is in one part of the ice, and it's actually 50-60 feet away and heading in the other direction.
FARNHAM - a couple of nice shifts in a game of mixed quality players where he laid some nice hits, and even made a couple of decent passes, but essentially a reactive thumper as opposed to a player who directed the play on any shift I recall.
KAMPFER - the downside of an 8th D. Played too much, got exposed. Has basic technical skill and understanding of what the coach wants him to do, but is too small and too slow to be anything other than depth. (Which, by the way, kudos, that's a lot better than I can say for my athletic skill!)
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Oscar Lindberg
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I’d be interested to see them try Bereglazov on the right considering that’s where he played quite a bit in the KHL
As others said I thought he started to figure it out in the third. Hopefully he builds on it next game, he can be a solid third pairing guy if he gets adjusted
As others said I thought he started to figure it out in the third. Hopefully he builds on it next game, he can be a solid third pairing guy if he gets adjusted
Glen Sathers Cigar
Sather 4 Ever
DeAngelo should have the inside track to the #6 spot.
Pionk could use some time in the AHL, but he's close.
Bereglazov looked Staal but with worse positioning, I'd like to see more from him. I wonder if he's having a tough time with the smaller ice.
Chytil was impressive again. It's crazy he just turned 18.
Buchnevich looks stronger, faster and more confident. Hopefully he carries that into the season and has a breakout year.
Hopefully Miller just had the wind knocked out of him and is okay. There were times he looked like a man among boys in the offensive zone, which is good, that's how he should look.
I want to see Andersson play with good linemates tomorrow night.
Pionk could use some time in the AHL, but he's close.
Bereglazov looked Staal but with worse positioning, I'd like to see more from him. I wonder if he's having a tough time with the smaller ice.
Chytil was impressive again. It's crazy he just turned 18.
Buchnevich looks stronger, faster and more confident. Hopefully he carries that into the season and has a breakout year.
Hopefully Miller just had the wind knocked out of him and is okay. There were times he looked like a man among boys in the offensive zone, which is good, that's how he should look.
I want to see Andersson play with good linemates tomorrow night.
Or drafted Gropp.
I'm curious of the sources of these professional scouts, but that's encouraging to hear.
Oscar Lindberg
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Bereglazov was supposed to play tomorrow, but it looks like they gave his spot to Crawley, which is not great news for him
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Machinehead
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Who said I wanna stimulate conversation? Maybe I wanna just float out a non-incendiary idea and then hide.
But you know me better than that
It's just -and I could be wrong, I haven't seen enough of him to make a final judgement- he seems like an unskilled "muh shutdown" type who doesn't actually shut anything down, but coaches love him.
That's just a vibe I get.
Who said I wanna stimulate conversation? Maybe I wanna just float out a non-incendiary idea and then hide.
But you know me better than that
It's just -and I could be wrong, I haven't seen enough of him to make a final judgement- he seems like an unskilled "muh shutdown" type who doesn't actually shut anything down, but coaches love him.
That's just a vibe I get.
I thought he moved well in general, his passing seemed to be a bit off and if I'm being charitable I say "nerves", seemed like he tried to make plays with the puck and not just Girardi it. I'd like to see more of him and how he settles down into NA size rinks and the NHL game
Machinehead
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I thought Skjei`s game was really below average for his standard. It might explain our defeat tonight, and I expect much more from him. (..maybe I expect too much.)
Anyway I really doubt Skjei was satisfied with his game, and AV gave him too much ice time probably to test out his conditioning since Ryan Mc. was not playing nor Kevin Shattenkirk, and he looked exhausted after some late shifts in the 3rd period.
Strength and physics is fine, but I`ve notion that some of our coaches will tell Skjei after this game to work on his endurance.
As I see our pairing after 2 games how our defenders have performed so far in this pre-season.
Ryan Mc. - Shattenkirk
Skjei - Smith (Deangelo)
Pionk - Deangelo (Smith)
There are some competition for our 7th D for sure and M. Staal is in the mix. (I need to watch more pre-season games.)
Anyway I really doubt Skjei was satisfied with his game, and AV gave him too much ice time probably to test out his conditioning since Ryan Mc. was not playing nor Kevin Shattenkirk, and he looked exhausted after some late shifts in the 3rd period.
Strength and physics is fine, but I`ve notion that some of our coaches will tell Skjei after this game to work on his endurance.
As I see our pairing after 2 games how our defenders have performed so far in this pre-season.
Ryan Mc. - Shattenkirk
Skjei - Smith (Deangelo)
Pionk - Deangelo (Smith)
There are some competition for our 7th D for sure and M. Staal is in the mix. (I need to watch more pre-season games.)
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Get used to Pavelec turning around from somewhere near the boards to watch someone picking the puck out of his net. The guy can make some amazing saves but he's so out of position way too many times. Usually he's having to make those amazing saves because he's caught out somewhere away from his net. I thought I had seen the last of him when his contract was up with the Jets... 
Get used to Pavelec turning around from somewhere near the boards to watch someone picking the puck out of his net. The guy can make some amazing saves but he's so out of position way too many times. Usually he's having to make those amazing saves because he's caught out somewhere away from his net. I thought I had seen the last of him when his contract was up with the Jets...
Yeah, I notice that tonight, but maybe I`m too harsh against him. I saw the whole game tonight, and I was very happy with his first 20 min. But then I notice he was out of position on one of the goals - so it might take some time for him to adjust to our defense as well. However Pavelec will probably need to work on his performance consistency in a game situation - otherwise other younger goalies in our system will compete for his backup position with us Rangers.
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