Proposal: Proposals Thread: Everything But The TV, Couch and Kitchen Sink Are For Sale!

[McDrai]

We have to target a team with 2 or more top defensemen. So Phoenix (Yandle, OEL), Winnipeg (Bogosian, Byfuglien), St.Louis (jayBo, Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo), Buffalo (Myers, Ehrhoff)

I would personally trade for Ehrhoff for sure as I think that he could be had for cheap due to his contract

 

[RebuildTheRebuild]

We have to target a team with 2 or more top defensemen. So Phoenix (Yandle, OEL), Winnipeg (Bogosian, Byfuglien), St.Louis (jayBo, Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo), Buffalo (Myers, Ehrhoff)

I would personally trade for Ehrhoff for sure as I think that he could be had for cheap due to his contract

I actually think Buffalo would be hesitant to trade Ehrhoff not only because he is their best defensemen (or at least second best behind Myers), and his cap recapture potentially if he retires before his contract is up. I would love to have a player like Ehrhoff on Edmonton.

With the other targets I don't think Byfuglien, Shattenkirk, or Yandle are great defence targets for Edmonton.

With Byfuglien he is a better forward than he is defensemen. I think there is a reason he has been moved back to forward. I would love to have Byfuglien on this team but as a forward and not a defender. He is what we need on offence currently.

With Yandle and Shattenkirk they are both good defensemen but I don't consider either a top pairing defensemen. With Shattenkirk he is a very good top 4 player but during the playoffs in 2013 he was playing in a sheltered role (5th in TOI for defensemen on STL and over 50% offensive zone starts). I think that speaks a lot to me saying that he is not a top pairing defender. While Yandle I don't think he can be relied on to shut down the top competition which is what Edmonton is looking for. Maybe its unfair of me to say that Yandle is not a top pairing defender but he is not the player Edmonton needs currently. I would be looking someone that is able to shut down the top competition, someone that is defensively sound.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Eberle - RNH - Hall
Yakupov - Stastny - Perron
Downie - Gordon - Arcobello
Pitlick - Lander - Komarov


Schultz - Niskanen
Petry - Marincin
Ference - Klefbom

Is this ok?

 

[HeavyHitter99]

Eberle - RNH - Hall
Yakupov - Stastny - Perron
Downie - Gordon - Arcobello
Pitlick - Lander - Komarov


Schultz - Niskanen
Petry - Marincin
Ference - Klefbom

Is this ok?

No it's not ok. That team is almost as bad as this years. A 4th line made of no NHL players (worse than this years), our sh***y defense with Niskanen. Stastny isn't ideal but definitely an upgrade on Gagner. Downie is a good addition though.

You have the wingers In the top 6 playing on the wrong sides just so you know

 

[HeavyHitter99]

We have to target a team with 2 or more top defensemen. So Phoenix (Yandle, OEL), Winnipeg (Bogosian, Byfuglien), St.Louis (jayBo, Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo), Buffalo (Myers, Ehrhoff)

I would personally trade for Ehrhoff for sure as I think that he could be had for cheap due to his contract

Bogosian is not a top Dman but I agree with what you are saying

 

[HeavyHitter99]

I actually think Buffalo would be hesitant to trade Ehrhoff not only because he is their best defensemen (or at least second best behind Myers), and his cap recapture potentially if he retires before his contract is up. I would love to have a player like Ehrhoff on Edmonton.

With the other targets I don't think Byfuglien, Shattenkirk, or Yandle are great defence targets for Edmonton.

With Byfuglien he is a better forward than he is defensemen. I think there is a reason he has been moved back to forward. I would love to have Byfuglien on this team but as a forward and not a defender. He is what we need on offence currently.

With Yandle and Shattenkirk they are both good defensemen but I don't consider either a top pairing defensemen. With Shattenkirk he is a very good top 4 player but during the playoffs in 2013 he was playing in a sheltered role (5th in TOI for defensemen on STL and over 50% offensive zone starts). I think that speaks a lot to me saying that he is not a top pairing defender. While Yandle I don't think he can be relied on to shut down the top competition which is what Edmonton is looking for. Maybe its unfair of me to say that Yandle is not a top pairing defender but he is not the player Edmonton needs currently. I would be looking someone that is able to shut down the top competition, someone that is defensively sound.

Shattenkirk is a #2/3 on the best D core in the league. Let's not get too picky. Both Yandle and Shattenkirk are #2 Dmen imo

 

[Oiltankjob Fail]

Eberle - RNH - Hall
Yakupov - Stastny - Perron
Downie - Gordon - Arcobello
Pitlick - Lander - Komarov


Schultz - Niskanen
Petry - Marincin
Ference - Klefbom

Is this ok?

One of the better upgrades I have seen but Hendricks over Pitlick.

 

[McDNicks17]

Bogosian is not a top Dman but I agree with what you are saying

Plays the most EV minutes(and against the toughest competition) on the Jets and has the least amount of goals against other than Stuart(who plays 4 less minutes/game).

 

[doubledown99]

Carolina needs to shed salary.

J. Staal would be perfect here. Sucks offensively but great defensively and is a big C that can go against the other big C's in the west. He has NTC so might be difficult for Edm.

Trading for M. Staal might help. And getting both Marc and Jordan solves two big problems for this club.

What goes back I won't speculate. But weren't their rumors earlier of Rangers wanting Yak?

 

[McDNicks17]

Marc is a UFA at the end of next season.

No way you trade Yak for one year of him.

 

[doubledown99]

Marc is a UFA at the end of next season.

No way you trade Yak for one year of him.

Not saying you would but a package deal with both being centrepieces could make sense or working out extension before trade etc.

 

[RogueJedi]

Would you guys be opposed to going after Iginla in the off season? We need more veteran presence in the locker room and he'd be a much better guy to bring into the fold than re-upping Smyth. I think he'd show the young guys how to compete because that's one thing that's sorely lacking in the dressing room.

Whether or not he'd come here is a whole other story though.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-BLANK-Yakupov
BLANK-BLANK-BLANK
BLANK-Gordon-Hendricks
Gazdic/Arcobello/Pitlick (next 3 call ups)

BLANK-Petry
BLANK-Ference
Marincin-J.Schultz
Klefbom

Scrivens
Fasth

I feel like that's the appropriate roster skeleton going forward. Understand that Gordon at No.4 C still would assume plenty of minutes: His presence allows us to look for a more offensive minded No.3 C, which could be Arcobello, but more likely a sizeable player.

 

[RebuildTheRebuild]

Shattenkirk is a #2/3 on the best D core in the league. Let's not get too picky. Both Yandle and Shattenkirk are #2 Dmen imo

I think we can agree to disagree on Shattenkirk being a top pairing. I may not be giving enough credit to Yandle as a player. They are better then the defensemen we have nonetheless. Anyways I do not think these are guys which you can put out against the top competition night in and night out. I would like someone that is much more solid defensively and that is able those kind of minutes.

 

[McDrai]

I actually think Buffalo would be hesitant to trade Ehrhoff not only because he is their best defensemen (or at least second best behind Myers), and his cap recapture potentially if he retires before his contract is up. I would love to have a player like Ehrhoff on Edmonton.

With the other targets I don't think Byfuglien, Shattenkirk, or Yandle are great defence targets for Edmonton.

With Byfuglien he is a better forward than he is defensemen. I think there is a reason he has been moved back to forward. I would love to have Byfuglien on this team but as a forward and not a defender. He is what we need on offence currently.

With Yandle and Shattenkirk they are both good defensemen but I don't consider either a top pairing defensemen. With Shattenkirk he is a very good top 4 player but during the playoffs in 2013 he was playing in a sheltered role (5th in TOI for defensemen on STL and over 50% offensive zone starts). I think that speaks a lot to me saying that he is not a top pairing defender. While Yandle I don't think he can be relied on to shut down the top competition which is what Edmonton is looking for. Maybe its unfair of me to say that Yandle is not a top pairing defender but he is not the player Edmonton needs currently. I would be looking someone that is able to shut down the top competition, someone that is defensively sound.

Yandle and Shattenkirk have the 2nd and 16th best Corsi in the nhl respectively for the last 1000 minutes played. Either one of them would be a huge upgrade. As for Byfuglien, I agree he would make a better forward but on our team he would be the best defenseman lol

 

[OilerFan4Life]

As a poster mentioned a few pages back, Eberle for Josi makes the most sense.

Young, locked in long term at good contract, solid #2 d-man who would clearly be our #1.

 

[Raab]

You might be right, but in my thinking hockey is a business first and game second. Who ever PHX drafts top 3 (reinhart/Bennett) would instantly become their most marketable player(maybe OEL is still) and I would think that would be alot of incentive for the new owners.

I honestly dont see Phoenix making any huge moves. They have all the major pieces in place to potentially win a cup. If they can add a few good wingers I honestly see them being the top team in the division.

 

[Raab]

I think we can agree to disagree on Shattenkirk being a top pairing. I may not be giving enough credit to Yandle as a player. They are better then the defensemen we have nonetheless. Anyways I do not think these are guys which you can put out against the top competition night in and night out. I would like someone that is much more solid defensively and that is able those kind of minutes.

I'm sorry to say you have it all wrong, we desperately need a 45-60 point dman. The one constant since 2010 is that our defence has been one of the lowest scoring in the entire league. I do agree we need a minute muncher to but those are usually easier to acquire. For example this summer Orpik will be on the market and he's a guy that can play 20+ min a night and shut down the other team.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Draft Ekblad #2
Yakupov + Musil to Florida for #3
Draft Draisaitl #3
Sign Kulemin 3 x $4
Sign Moss 2 x $3.75
Sign Niskanen 5 x $5.5
Sign Komarov 2 x $2

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron/Kulemin-Draisaitl-Gagner
Perron/Kulemin-Gordon-Moss
Komarov-Lander-Hendricks
Gazdik

Niskanen-Schultz
Marincin-Petry
Klefbom/Ekblad-Ference

If defense isn't good enough sign Matt Greene and send Ekblad to OHL and Klefbom as #7 or OKC

 

[BarDownBobo]

Draft Ekblad #2
Yakupov + Musil to Florida for #3
Draft Draisaitl #3
Sign Kulemin 3 x $4
Sign Moss 2 x $3.75
Sign Niskanen 5 x $5.5
Sign Komarov 2 x $2

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron/Kulemin-Draisaitl-Gagner
Perron/Kulemin-Gordon-Moss
Komarov-Lander-Hendricks
Gazdik

Niskanen-Schultz
Marincin-Petry
Klefbom/Ekblad-Ference

If defense isn't good enough sign Matt Greene and send Ekblad to OHL and Klefbom as #7 or OKC

Wouldn't trade Yak for #3 alone, never mind with a plus.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Wouldn't trade Yak for #3 alone, never mind with a plus.

So if a Draisaitl or Ekblad was in the Yakupov draft, you'd still pick Yak?

 

[BarDownBobo]

So if a Draisaitl or Ekblad was in the Yakupov draft, you'd still pick Yak?

Trading Yak for a draft pick is a step backwards unless it's for McDavid. Another 18 year old who comes with quite a few questions is not the right direction at all.

 

[Speed220DChalavan]

Trading Yakupov would be silly. He's a legitimate shooter who has not been effectively been used on the powerplay. He's got a great, quick pass. It's very likely he'll rebound next season (and shooting percentage won't be as low as it was this year). Just need some patience around young players.

But hey, it's what have you done for me lately in pro sports.

At the end of the day, I'm confident Nail Yakupov will be the best player out of his draft class.

 

[yukoner88]

When I look at this team currently, it definitely has the talent to compete, but it doesn't know how too. It would take more than having a great coach behind the bench, but having some true leadership on the ice to go out n show these kids how its done when they hit adversity.

If he hits the ufa market, Mact should really lobby Callahan to come here. He would be great for Hall to learn from, and brings it on the ice night in night out. Not sure what kind of dollars it would take to bring him here, but that's the kind of pla At the same time ship Gagner out, not sure who would take him, but pieces of the line-up has to change and I think Gagner is the one to go.

I've been iffy about Orpik in the past, but our D needs the physicality and a true shut down guy to ease the pressure off our young offensive minded D

Hall-Callahan-Eberle
Perron-RNH-Yak
Hendricks-Gordon-Lander
Jones-Arco-Larsen <----I've liked what I've seen with him here, it could be a good place for him long term.
Smyth-Gazdic

Orpik-Marincin
Klefbom-Petry
Shultz-Ference
Belov

Not the best but I think this would be a step in the right direction. I have no idea what Gagner would garner in return, but most likely another roster player who could be inserted where needed. I would hope a player who loves to crash n bang

 

[Canovin]

Trading Yakupov would be silly. He's a legitimate shooter who has not been effectively been used on the powerplay. He's got a great, quick pass. It's very likely he'll rebound next season (and shooting percentage won't be as low as it was this year). Just need some patience around young players.

But hey, it's what have you done for me lately in pro sports.

At the end of the day, I'm confident Nail Yakupov will be the best player out of his draft class.

Trading Yak for Florida pick+ is not silly at all. I love Yak but he almost makes no impact on the Oilers at all. He's almost has no chemistry with anyone. If oilers can come out with Ekblad+Reinhart/Draistal. Do it. Always build down the middle and the backend. It's best for the team.