Proposal: Proposal: tbl-dal
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Tkachuk Norris
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DAL could take a certain % of Niemi maybe but I don't see them taking full amount if there giving up 2 1st Round picks
TrillMike
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I agree with the Bishop extension part. Tampa can expose Niemi to Vegas after this season. Niemi/Vasilevskiy split this year then Vasilevskiy takes over next year with or without Niemi.
Gurianov was a 12th overall who should've been taken in the 20s and the 2017 pick will be in the 20-30 range aswell so only 2 late round firsts basically
If Niemi comes our way then Filppula goes back yours - we simply cannot afford to take on any additional salary in 2017.
In addition Gurianov and a low first are not worth giving up one last shot at the Cup with Bishop for, and that's not even mentioning us swapping an overpaid but quality third line defensive center and penalty killer for an overpaid backup goalie who doesn't benefit our team to nearly the same degree.
In addition Gurianov and a low first are not worth giving up one last shot at the Cup with Bishop for, and that's not even mentioning us swapping an overpaid but quality third line defensive center and penalty killer for an overpaid backup goalie who doesn't benefit our team to nearly the same degree.
DAL: Filppula, Bishop
TB: Niemi, Eakin, 1st Round
thoughts? Niemi salary retained is possible too
TB: Niemi, Eakin, 1st Round
thoughts? Niemi salary retained is possible too
If Dallas needs to send us Niemi then they need to take back Filppula. HOWEVER, while that balances out the cap hit, Dallas would still need to compensate us for trading a quality defensive forward and penalty killer (who despite being overpaid for his offensive production is still a key contributor in those areas) for a mediocre backup goalie (whose on-ice contribution would be significantly less.) And that's before we even get into the question of compensation for Bishop.
Really without Honka I have a hard time seeing a deal that works for both teams. To be worth giving up an excellent shot at the Cup next season by trading Bishop the return in this deal would have to make the Lightning significantly better over the next several years; a far-from-ready prospect of questionable value and a low first simply don't do that. Aside from Honka the only other thing Dallas could theoretically offer us that would accomplish that objective would be cap space and they simply don't have enough to spare.
Eakin = Filppula. So you seriously think a top 3 goalie in the league is worth a late first and a cap dump ?
kingdok
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31 GMs out of 31 take Eakins over Filppula. Cheaper, signed for longer and younger.
Cheaper and younger are good; signed for longer is not as far as the Lightning are concerned. Filppula is a buyout candidate after this season and we certainly don't want Eakin taking up cap space that is needed to resign Johnson, Palat, and Drouin. Not to mention that even without Filppula on the roster Eakin is at best a 4C for Tampa (no way he passes Stamkos, Johnson, or Namestnikov and frankly I'd rather have Boyle for half the price. Although in 2017 we'll likely be replacing Boyle on the fourth with Point which is yet another reason why we don't want Eakin.)
Cheaper, signed for longer, younger and somehow had only marginally more points last season despite centering 2 of the top 10 forwards in the league. Defensively I take Filppula. Offensively it's basically a wash. Playoff performance, Filppula until Eakin does something notable. Eakin is basically a slightly cheaper Filppula with less playoff pedigree not some excellent value to justify that awful proposal.
kingdok
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Roussel and Hemsky two of the top 10 forwards in the league?
1 goal in 17 games last playoffs isn't exactly a stellar accomplishment for Filppula either. Age is showing.
And slightly cheaper, like 1.150M$ slightly?
TampaJay
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The premise of these proposals is that Tampa has to move Bishop in order to re-sign Kucherov. The premise is false. There are other options. They could simply move someone like Boyle or sign Kucherov to a shorter term deal.
Tampa would not have made the playoffs last year without Bishop. While Vasi was great in the ECF, the loss of Bishop’s puck handling skills highlighted some serious flaws in Tampa’s D-core. Trading Bishop endangers their Cup chances.
Bishop for Honka would have to be the starting point but Dallas fans seem willing to pass on two years of Benn/Seguin prime by keeping the current goalie tandem in order to keep a prospect like Honka.
Tampa would not have made the playoffs last year without Bishop. While Vasi was great in the ECF, the loss of Bishop’s puck handling skills highlighted some serious flaws in Tampa’s D-core. Trading Bishop endangers their Cup chances.
Bishop for Honka would have to be the starting point but Dallas fans seem willing to pass on two years of Benn/Seguin prime by keeping the current goalie tandem in order to keep a prospect like Honka.
Eakin didn't center Roussel and Hemsky. That was a delightful young Czech player named Radek Faksa who stole Eakin's job thus making him a 3rd line center without a 3rd line to play on. Eakin split his time between the 3rd line and the 1st line(until Seguin's injury when he permanently left the 3rd line) however most of his 3rd line usage was without Hemsky. Also he sucked as a 1C.
Edit- It should also be noted that despite too many attempts to force their chemistry to return Eakin also sucked with Roussel making him even more out of place on the Stars.
