How many goalies making more than that reached the SCF? How many times have the Blackhawks won after giving away to massive deals to their star players?
It's irrelevant.
Speculation: Price to Carolina ?
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How many goalies making more than that reached the SCF? How many times have the Blackhawks won after giving away to massive deals to their star players?
It's irrelevant.
WreckingCrew
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I'm not sure many teams would even take him for free @ max retention...he's well below league average, 32...for 6+ seasons @ $5M+/yrs
Until he bounces back to average+ I don't think he'll have any non-negative value
Until he bounces back to average+ I don't think he'll have any non-negative value
Lol ok. You win nonsensical post of the day
Chicago won their last cup BEFORE toews and Kane's $10.5 mil cap hits kicked in
But you know... Facts
So no one has won a cup with a player making more than $10M in the salary cap era?
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Why do people keep using that 10M number as a benchmark like it's at all relevant even in the salary cap era? The salary cap has more than doubled since it was implemented. It's even went up 18% in the last 5 years alone. In a few years we're going to be talking about how no team has won the cup without 3+ 10M players on their roster lately. 10M players are not the death sentence they were in a 60M cap system.
thats not what I said or what I was getting at, i was merely pointing out having a very high priced goalie has never won a team the cup since the implementation of the salary cap
but to your most recent question, no. No team has yet to win a cup with someone making $10+ mil on the cap
The closest are OV and Malkin with $9.5 cap hits
Habs Halifax
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Price is like $1.5M overpaid. If the Habs retain $2.5M bringing his AAV down to $8M, you can throw your "negative value" out the window.
However, he has a NMC and we are not really shopping him. Only the fans acting like basement GM's are.
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In case you missed it, we lead the league in shutouts and both our tenders have 3. Also, you can't include Aho in any deals with the whole offersheet trade embargo.
Price retained for futures is the only way we'd look at a deal.
Price retained for futures is the only way we'd look at a deal.
Do you think Price is somehow going to be better when 10m cap hits aren't that big a deal?
its more about sinking significant amounts of your cap into the most fickle position (goalie) who are reliant on the players and system in front of them and usually that high priced of a goalie leads to holes and inefficiencies in your roster that other teams can better address with a cheaper goalie on the payroll
No, my point was more on how people keep bringing up how nobody's won with 10M contracts on their roster. IMO it's irrelevant since the cap keeps going up. Regarding Price, obviously that contract is awful and nobody's going to take that on. It's bad now at the level he's playing at; it's likely going to be a lot worse in 3 years when regresses even more.
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He's performing worse than league average by a fair margin, for the 2nd time in 3 years, and last year was merely average. Both Mrazek AND Reimer are out-performing him right now at $6.5M combined. He's MAYBE a $4M veteran goalie right now at best (unless/until he can prove he's still capable of league average+ goaltending)
TomasHertlsRooster
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Price is a below average goaltender with 7 years left on his contract. Price with 50% retention, at 5.75, is bad. Price at 8.5M is basically the Black Plague.
Habs Halifax
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I expect more of the same as Lundqvist but if Price plays on a contender, his stats will be much better and he gives a team an edge in net. Reasonable to expect up and down years with any player in their 30's.
Only fit I see today is the Avs. They have a complete roster, very few holes to fill, a deep prospect pool, and cap space. However, I can see them trying cheaper goalies in the short term first. Could work or they could be looking for a goalie for years to come.
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just for fun, even though we dont want Price
Canes get: Price at 60%, Suzuki and Montreal's 2nd round pick
Montreal gets: Reimer, Kuokkanen, Canes' 2nd round pick, and a signed picture of Aho (framing negotiable).
Canes get: Price at 60%, Suzuki and Montreal's 2nd round pick
Montreal gets: Reimer, Kuokkanen, Canes' 2nd round pick, and a signed picture of Aho (framing negotiable).
Habs Halifax
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What team he plays on matters. Basically, because his stats are not as good as his career stats, this is your chance to acquire for cheap and the Habs retain. Think Weber when he was injured and Weber today
You either want Price or not. But if you want him but for cheap return, forget about it. Habs not going to do a Roy round 2. If you don't want him, just say not interested. If you try to troll his value in the process, it will be defended.
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This thread is about the Canes. Why are you bring up Josiah Slavin and why would Chicago want to trade for Price? Your post makes no sense to me.
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I have trouble supporting Price because his numbers and play are ass. Absolute ass.
I do know that if he is ever moved to a strong team, a contender, they will be getting a very good goalie. Price has been unfocused and pouty for the past couple years, he needs a change of scenery. That goalie is still there, the motivation and desire are not.
I think there would be GM's willing to take a risk on him, with a couple mill retained or in exchange for a bad contract. 50% retained is a moot point, it would never happen. Makes no sense.
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You want Price at $6.3M and for us to add Suzuki? What a steal that would be eh. Doesn't sound like fun to me
TomasHertlsRooster
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This is an extremely stupid way of looking at things since the cap has more than doubled since the start of the cap era. Marc-Andre Fleury’s $5M salary in 2008-2009 took up 8.82% of the cap, which would be $7.18M in today’s NHL and he’s not the only Stanley Cup winning goaltender who took up a larger percentage of the cap than $6.1M is today.
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