Predators Hockey Discussion 22-23

[ShagDaddy]

Ek saying Preds are most likely spot for Puljujarvi trade as of late last night. Why!
Ek

Ek is a numb-nuts. I can’t take anything he says seriously.

 

[Armourboy]

Ek saying Preds are most likely spot for Puljujarvi trade as of late last night. Why!
Ek

I don't buy it. Why would we waive Tolvanen just to pick up another teams Tolvanen who is at a higher cap to boot?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Ek saying Preds are most likely spot for Puljujarvi trade as of late last night. Why!
Ek

Leaving the Eklund part aside, I don't see the point right now in Poile picking up any younger players, or projects, or players who might be struggling elsewhere. We don't have an environment right now where we could have any reasonable expectation of such a player turning things around here. It would be a waste of resources.

And anyway, we also have a plethora of in-house options up front, so again, why add another who might not be as good as some guys we have been keeping in Milwaukee all year?

Even just as "fun speculation", it doesn't seem to make sense.

 

[herzausstein]

Id take puljujarvi as long as hes basically free. If he doesnt improve, we dont extend a qualifying offer and it's no harm no foul. Hes a big body which our management and coach are in love with so he would get playing time.

 

[101st_fan]

Unless players go on LTIR there is a cap aspect to calling up players to backfill Lauzon and Carrier, neither of whom is on IR yet. The only waiver exempt player on the roster is Parssinen.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Shit, it makes sense to me. Poile is always looking to find retread to turn into a top 6. I'm not saying it'll happen, but in my head I had thought Tolvanen for Puljujarvi seemed plausible.

 

[Scoresberg]

After all these years, Hynes is apparently the hill Poile wants to die on.

 

[Soundgarden]

Smh, just a stupid move no way around it. Not a fan of it at all.

 

[Scoresberg]

 

[Soundgarden]

Best of luck to him, hope he tears it up there. Not a happy camper.

 

[herzausstein]

Not shocked he got claimed. I guess that frees up cap for next year for extensions but dang this feels like a dumb decision.

 

[Soundgarden]

Not shocked he got claimed. I guess that frees up cap for next year for extensions but dang this feels like a dumb decision.

Yeah, I don't remember the last time we've made a move that's been pretty much universally hated from the second we made it. We'll see how it turns out.

 

[Armourboy]

Just poor asset management all the way around. I hope he goes there and puts up 40g.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Surprised some of the thinner teams earlier in the claim order didn't take him, but this is good for him... he goes to a better team than the Preds and a chance to make the playoffs? Hopefully he settles in and does well, the Kraken seem to have a fairly balanced lineup already.

 

[herzausstein]

Yeah, I don't remember the last time we've made a move that's been pretty much universally hated from the second we made it. We'll see how it turns out.

Many werent a fan when we waived rem pitlick in favor of holding onto grimaldi for a couple weeks. Rem went on and had a good year in montreal but has done nothing this season. So instant analysis was it was terrible decision... long term is more neutral though. Still pretty close circumstances.... waiving a young player so we can hold onto some older players....

 

[Armourboy]

Surprised some of the thinner teams earlier in the claim order didn't take him, but this is good for him... he goes to a better team than the Preds and a chance to make the playoffs? Hopefully he settles in and does well, the Kraken seem to have a fairly balanced lineup already.

TBH he's probably gotta be happy as heck right now. Finally gets away from Hynes and goes to a team that is higher up in the standings.

 

[Enoch]

After all these years, Hynes is apparently the hill Poile wants to die on.

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Honestly disgraceful.

 

[Enoch]

Many werent a fan when we waived rem pitlick in favor of holding onto grimaldi for a couple weeks. Rem went on and had a good year in montreal but has done nothing this season. So instant analysis was it was terrible decision... long term is more neutral though. Still pretty close circumstances.... waiving a young player so we can hold onto some older players....

Pretty terrible decision. He had a year we don't have out of 99% of our prospects ever.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

I have to check my own emotions on this move. I think realistically it doesn't really move the needle for us either way in a vacuum. I think the hype and hope I had for his development was higher than most just based on how he showed so early, so that brings my frustrations to the fore front. I'll say I have learned my lesson on buying into the hype. There are :insert team color: tinted glasses and then there's a huge leap up to get to the level of bias you see in the European market for "their" player". Tolvy was a prime example of this, but I suspect it happens on all the different national perspectives. Maybe Americans are the exception as they don't seem to care enough to hype their hockey guys I guess or maybe I have missed those threads.

 

[Soundgarden]

Even with rose colored glasses we gave up a very useful player on a very cheap contract away for free.

 

[herzausstein]

Pretty terrible decision. He had a year we don't have out of 99% of our prospects ever.

True and even though he hasnt accomplished anything this season, his paycheck is just slightly above the depth players that we brought in like sanford. So it isnt like it wouldve kneecapped us

 

[Roman Yoshi]

 

[Armourboy]

I have to check my own emotions on this move. I think realistically it doesn't really move the needle for us either way in a vacuum. I think the hype and hope I had for his development was higher than most just based on how he showed so early, so that brings my frustrations to the fore front. I'll say I have learned my lesson on buying into the hype. There are :insert team color: tinted glasses and then there's a huge leap up to get to the level of bias you see in the European market for "their" player". Tolvy was a prime example of this, but I suspect it happens on all the different national perspectives. Maybe Americans are the exception as they don't seem to care enough to hype their hockey guys I guess or maybe I have missed those threads.

I mean I've never been that hyped for him, hopeful but not a guy that thought he should have just walked in and been given top billing cause he was just that awesome. My major problem with the whole thing is that he did what was asked of him and then wasn't really put into a great position. I know he was on the " 2nd line " last season, but his strength was on that right side on the PP using that shot, and they never put him there. So while he wasn't great offensively for us they also cut the knees right out from under him.

I get that guys need to earn their time, but you can't hamstring them while they are trying to earn it as well.

 

[ShagDaddy]

Really excited for Tolvanen. Good kid, hard worker, did everything this organization asked of him. LandEd in a good, well run organization with an upward trajectory. Hopefully he blossoms and has a fantastic career for himself and the Kraken organization.