Post-Game Talk: Pred

[Machinehead]

So many things in the analytics point to this, but my one major concern I have is if the book is out on us (certainly looks to be the case for our PP).

What book is that?

"They never have the puck."

We got rid of that book.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I have had an infected tooth and it hurts but I can just hear all the players who have played with dislocated shoulders and multiple broken bones laughing.

Same here. The antibiotics usually start working right away and the Advil finish the job.

 

[will1066]

He should shut it down. Take the year off for self-care. Focus on himself. Come back next year.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Oh I'm sorry I didn't look at win % in November.

Now that I know we're an entire point out of a playoff spot, I can understand the doom.

When did you become Mr. Positive?

I thought his vagina hurt.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

A 16-game sample is absolutely nothing. A 16-month sample is nothing.

This team is playing real hockey now (which we need to) and needs to figure out how to score real goals that aren't off the rush.

They will.

It might not even be this year. The world won't end if it isn't. They have to learn how to be a better 5v5 team. Learning comes with a learning curve.

I envy the optimism, I’m definitely more down on them. Despite the good analytics, it just seems off when you watch them get stymied every night. At the very least, it’s a bad trend that they desperately need to shake.

 

[RickChartraw]

oh man, an infected tooth? chuckling at this guy. no nut(s) november for the neck.

 

[Kovalev27]

Oh I'm sorry I didn't look at win % in November.

Now that I know we're an entire point out of a playoff spot, I can understand the doom.

Don’t get crabby at the actual numbers when you live by the numbers brotha

 

[Machinehead]

I echo the sentiment that Lafreniere kind of just isn't good at anything. I don't know where all the points in junior came from, I'm not a seer or a shaman. At this level, he has no skills.

Chytil and Kakko are becoming good players. Not "getting there" or doing things and stuff, they're *good* players and they're leaving Lafreniere behind.

They're good at things. Chytil has very good speed, can protect the puck, and it's becoming an efficient finisher. Kakko has ELITE hands and could hold onto the puck in a tornado in space.

What does Lafreniere do well? He has a high-end nose for the net, that's about it, and his lack of speed is going to prevent even that skill from reaching full fruition.

He's starting to look like a "right situation" junior player that got hyped on point watching. It kind of is what it is. It's the pick the Rangers had to make in that spot.

 

[CasusBelli]

16. Missed shots on goal of abominable… 21 blocked Kreider nowhere to be found in a very dirty chippy game where the f*** was he?
Drury hast to take a lot of heat here he brought in the stiffs like vesey and Gauthier … he stuck with China doll kravtsov…
He never went after motte he never found a way to bring back Vatrano …

And I told you guys, the devils would be up to would the Islanders…

We didn’t get better in the off-season we got worse.

And is Trocheck really better than Strome?

Agree with everything here. I fully expected the Devils to be better than us this year — but part of me is still somewhat surprised to see that realizing.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

We've played one more game than Montreal and Detroit who are the teams "ahead" of us.

Also 1 more game than Carolina and 2 more games than Philly who is 1 point behind us. Hell we are only 2 points ahead of 7th place Pitt. My point is we are losing valuable points against crappy teams or blowing 2 goal leads lately when we can ill afford to be not taking advantage of these opportunities.

 

[Machinehead]

Don’t get crabby at the actual numbers when you live by the numbers brotha

The standings are not "actual numbers." They're routinely full of shit.

Across 2020 and 2021, Montreal went 46-70-22, and went to a SCF in between. One of the worst teams in the NHL was in the Finals. Nothing matters and everything is random.

You do your best and hope hockey doesn't feel like f***ing you over.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I gotta say, been watching the Rangers for a long time and this team is the most unlucky of any of the Ranger team I’ve ever watched. Just snakebiten.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

I echo the sentiment that Lafreniere kind of just isn't good at anything. I don't know where all the points in junior came from, I'm not a seer or a shaman. At this level, he has no skills.

Chytil and Kakko are becoming good players. Not "getting there" or doing things and stuff, they're *good* players and they're leaving Lafreniere behind.

They're good at things. Chytil has very good speed, can protect the puck, and it's becoming an efficient finisher. Kakko has ELITE hands and could hold onto the puck in a tornado in space.

What does Lafreniere do well? He has a high-end nose for the net, that's about it, and his lack of speed is going to prevent even that skill from reaching full fruition.

He's starting to look like a "right situation" junior player that got hyped on point watching. It kind of is what it is. It's the pick the Rangers had to make in that spot.

His “hockey sense” was always supposed to be miles ahead of the competition.

But if your major skill is your brain, and you get stuck playing non-confident, non-assertive hockey, you’re basically neutered.

I’m sure if he was given the same opportunity as someone like Dach right now, he’d also be a PPG player.

We’re just not allowing the kids to develop like top draft picks develop. You need to give them all the responsibility and belief in the world, and let them figure it out.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

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[Shesterkybomb]

I echo the sentiment that Lafreniere kind of just isn't good at anything. I don't know where all the points in junior came from, I'm not a seer or a shaman. At this level, he has no skills.

Chytil and Kakko are becoming good players. Not "getting there" or doing things and stuff, they're *good* players and they're leaving Lafreniere behind.

They're good at things. Chytil has very good speed, can protect the puck, and it's becoming an efficient finisher. Kakko has ELITE hands and could hold onto the puck in a tornado in space.

What does Lafreniere do well? He has a high-end nose for the net, that's about it, and his lack of speed is going to prevent even that skill from reaching full fruition.

He's starting to look like a "right situation" junior player that got hyped on point watching. It kind of is what it is. It's the pick the Rangers had to make in that spot.

They are older

 

[Machinehead]

I gotta say, been watching the Rangers for a long time and this team is the most unlucky of any of the Ranger team I’ve ever watched. Just snakebiten.

2008 still haunts me. The Pens beat us in 5 and it feels like they had 22 shots the entire series.

The whole run was a farce. The 2008 Penguins were 29th in CF%.

Detroit did the sport a favor not that the sport deserves one.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I echo the sentiment that Lafreniere kind of just isn't good at anything. I don't know where all the points in junior came from, I'm not a seer or a shaman. At this level, he has no skills.

Chytil and Kakko are becoming good players. Not "getting there" or doing things and stuff, they're *good* players and they're leaving Lafreniere behind.

They're good at things. Chytil has very good speed, can protect the puck, and it's becoming an efficient finisher. Kakko has ELITE hands and could hold onto the puck in a tornado in space.

What does Lafreniere do well? He has a high-end nose for the net, that's about it, and his lack of speed is going to prevent even that skill from reaching full fruition.

He's starting to look like a "right situation" junior player that got hyped on point watching. It kind of is what it is. It's the pick the Rangers had to make in that spot.

People need more patience with him. He just turned 21 and has been playing on his off wing most of this year. Maybe that has something to do with it. He scored 20 goals last year and looked pretty good late and in playoffs. Chytil is starting to put it together but he is now in his 5th year in the league and people were down on him early last year. Laf also put up tremendous numbers in juniors, Crosby like numbers I believe. He is better than he is showing so far this year.

 

[Machinehead]

They are older

So? I'm expecting unpolished skill, not no skill.

 

[Off Sides]

It's not bad luck, it's good goaltending against.

 

[Machinehead]

People need more patience with him. He just turned 21 and has been playing on his off wing most of this year. Maybe that has something to do with it. He scored 20 goals last year and looked pretty good late and in playoffs. Chytil is starting to put it together but he is now in his 5th year in the league and people were down on him as early as last year. Laf also put up tremendous numbers in juniors, Crosby like numbers I believe. He is better than he is showing so far this year.

I'm just starting to not see it. You can't tell me what he does well without yelling his age or referring to numbers, because he doesn't do anything well.

You should be able to describe players using their standout skills.

Even middling players have things they're good at.

 

[Machinehead]

It not bad luck, it's good goaltending against.

Goaltending is a psyop.

 

[Hire Sather]

We might as well be 1,000 points behind the devils because once you behind this late you don't catch them. This is baseball not hockey. We are in huge trouble

 

[duhmetreE]

How is it that the New York Rangers always struggle with simple things.

Like passing, handling the puck, hitting the net or getting the shot through.

Why are we always flubbin about?

 

[xsniper11x]

What book is that?

"They never have the puck."

We got rid of that book.

Well, there’s obviously a big gap bt our actual and xgf, but we do have a tendency to be a one dimensional team offensively. Much more so than a team with this much talent should be. Either the PP is lights out, or Fox and Panarin carry us at ES (or the Kid Line in the POs).

So there is the risk we’re improving on the possession side, but teams are just getting better at defending against the handful of dimensions we throw at them when we have puck. That’s what can create the gap in actual and xgf, and if that is indeed the case, then we could be going gray waiting for the “inevitable” reversion to the mean.

 

[Hire Sather]

Can pain any pics you want points all that matters the standing. So all that matters for all the doom and Bloom last season we were in a great spot. Right now we are in huge trouble, doesn't matter how well we may look or may not look all that matters in the end or how many points we have. And we are middling club battling for a while. Cut spot and way way way way out of a comfortable position right now