Post-Game Talk: Post-Tank Thread: Vancouver finishes w/ 3rd tank position (lottery odds in OP)

[Cupless]

Daily sim
Edmonton
Toronto
Calgary
WTF?

I've held off running the sim until the lottery spots that matter were settled. Here are my results:

1) Vancouver
2) Winnipeg
3) Toronto

I'm done.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I've held off running the sim until the lottery spots that matter were settled. Here are my results:

1) Vancouver
2) Winnipeg
3) Toronto

I'm done.

First sim?
My personal rule is only the first sim in each day counts

 

[Cupless]

First sim?
My personal rule is only the first sim in each day counts

First sim this season. Probably my last one too. Not sure how it gets much better than that.

 

[CanaFan]

Yeah.

I know pretty much nothing about Dubois, but it just seems like forwards who put up those kinds of numbers in the Q so often disappoint.

Then why do so many people bemoan passing on Ehlers?

I'll admit I bought into the "Q-is-inflated" viewpoint and further felt Ehlers numbers were inflated by sharing PP minutes with Drouin.

Look how that's turned out.

Dubois is the real deal and would have put up those numbers in any league. He's not some tiny, soft, water bug who only exploits crappy D and soft goaltending. He dominated the Top Prospects Game and has the size, power, and smarts to be an elite player in the WHL or OHL as well. The skepticism in this case is not warranted.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

Hoping the hockey gods have some decency and we end up with this man.

 

[Deeds26]

First sim this season. Probably my last one too. Not sure how it gets much better than that.

it does get a little better, i just got

1. Canucks
2. Columbus
3. Arizona

no Oilers or Leafs in there always makes it a little better

 

[Captain Bowie]

Daily Lottery Simulator, is this a thing now? I'm game.

1. Cbus
2. Edmondump
3. Laffs

Could be worse, we pick 4th and neither Leafs or Oilers get #1.

Screw it, I propose a Daily 30 Lottery Sims:

Team| 1st| 2nd| 3rd| Top 3
Toronto Maple Leafs| 9| 6| 4| 19
Columbus Blue Jackets| 4| 4| 1| 9
Edmonton Oilers| 3| 6| 2| 11
Calgary Flames| 3| 3| 7| 13
Arizona Coyotes| 2| 3| 3| 8
Buffalo Sabres| 2| 3| 3| 8
Winnipeg Jets| 2| 1| 2| 5
Ottawa Senators| 2| 0| 0| 2
Vancouver Canucks| 1| 1| 4| 6
Colorado Avalanche| 1| 1| 2| 4
New Jersey Devils| 1| 1| 0| 2
Montreal Canadiens| 0| 1| 2| 3

Not so good to us this time.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

We won the sim the first and only time I tried it. My work here is done.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Then why do so many people bemoan passing on Ehlers?

I'll admit I bought into the "Q-is-inflated" viewpoint and further felt Ehlers numbers were inflated by sharing PP minutes with Drouin.

Look how that's turned out.

Dubois is the real deal and would have put up those numbers in any league. He's not some tiny, soft, water bug who only exploits crappy D and soft goaltending. He dominated the Top Prospects Game and has the size, power, and smarts to be an elite player in the WHL or OHL as well. The skepticism in this case is not warranted.

Ehlers had something of a dissapointing season did he not?

Anyway, that's good to know. Thanks.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

I ran it 12 times and Laffs got 1st 7/12.

That would be even worse than Edmonton IMO. Leafs this season were as blatant a tank job as I've ever seen; the lottery has failed.

 

[Canucker]

Ehlers had something of a dissapointing season did he not?

Anyway, that's good to know. Thanks.

15 goals and 38 points in 72 games as a rookie isn't too bad. If thats disappointing, I'm not sure what we'd classify Virtanen and McCann's rookie seasons as.

 

[Tiranis]

15 goals and 38 points in 72 games as a rookie isn't too bad. If thats disappointing, I'm not sure what we'd classify Virtanen and McCann's rookie seasons as.

I think he finished on a something like 26 points in 35 games run?

 

[Nuckles]

I think he finished on a something like 26 points in 35 games run?

Yeah, but it's 26 soft points.

 

[Canucker]

I think he finished on a something like 26 points in 35 games run?

Yup. His ice time went up fairly dramatically as the season went on too...I'd say it was a pretty good rookie season for him to build off.

 

[CanaFan]

Ehlers had something of a dissapointing season did he not?

Anyway, that's good to know. Thanks.

I don't think it was disappointing, maybe compared to some of the *inflated* opinions of him that some have held (Kane comparisons, superstar, etc). Those were never realistic to begin with.

Concern with Ehlers (mine at least) was that his style and skill set was custom made for a run-and-gun junior league but less so for the pro game. Despite that he's transitioned quite well.

Dubois on the other hand is the anti-Ehlers in some ways. Big, mean, strong but also high skill and hockey iq. He is tailor made for the NHL game IMO. Watched him at the TPG and thought he looked a lot like Marian Hossa out there. Would take him in a heartbeat at 4 as a future Henrik replacement.

 

[VanJack]

Let's face it.....the NHL has got its fingers crossed that Matthews goes to the Leafs....but happy with the Canucks position.....there's no way we were out-tanking the Leafs and Oilers from the very get-go....having the best lottery odds is about all you can ask for..... a much worse position would be where the Avs and Bruins are right now.

 

[GetFocht]

Just want one of the fins

 

[y2kcanucks]

Let's face it.....the NHL has got its fingers crossed that Matthews goes to the Leafs....but happy with the Canucks position.....there's no way we were out-tanking the Leafs and Oilers from the very get-go....having the best lottery odds is about all you can ask for..... a much worse position would be where the Avs and Bruins are right now.

Just like there was no way a team with the Sedins could be a bottom 5 team?

Had we not swept the California teams at the end of the season we finish dead last.

 

[Intangibos]

Just like there was no way a team with the Sedins could be a bottom 5 team?

Had we not swept the California teams at the end of the season we finish dead last.

I don't think anyone expected this management to put together a team this bad. I mean Sbisa at 3.6, Miller at 6, Dorsett at 2.6, trading for Prust at 2, Bartkowski, Sutter etc etc. Lets face it, this is a terrible roster that deserves last place.

When people asy there was no way the Sedins will let this be a bottom 5 team, I don't think they meant on hard-mode with an AHL lineup surrounding them. I think they meant if they were surrounded by actual NHL players.

 

[beachcomber]

Just like there was no way a team with the Sedins could be a bottom 5 team?

Had we not swept the California teams at the end of the season we finish dead last.

Yep, but it will be less of a sting now when we end up picking sixth rather than if we had finished last and ended up fourth which is what would have happened with this cursed franchise. It all started with the spin of the wheel in 1970.

 

[Index]

Virtanen Boeser Baertschi on the wings and Dubois Horvat down the middle.

McCann can switch back and forth

 

[CanaFan]

I don't think anyone expected this management to put together a team this bad. I mean Sbisa at 3.6, Miller at 6, Dorsett at 2.6, trading for Prust at 2, Bartkowski, Sutter etc etc. Lets face it, this is a terrible roster that deserves last place.

When people asy there was no way the Sedins will let this be a bottom 5 team, I don't think they meant on hard-mode with an AHL lineup surrounding them. I think they meant if they were surrounded by actual NHL players.

Maybe that's what they meant but those of us saying this team was a bottom 5 looking team back in October were saying that based on the roster we were actually seeing on the ice. So while you may have been qualifying it with "actual NHL talent", we were talking about a team with Bartowski, Prust, Dorsett, Weber, Sbisa, etc. Which was reality at the time.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Daily Lottery Simulator, is this a thing now? I'm game.

1. Cbus
2. Edmondump
3. Laffs

Could be worse, we pick 4th and neither Leafs or Oilers get #1.

Screw it, I propose a Daily 30 Lottery Sims:

Team| 1st| 2nd| 3rd| Top 3
Toronto Maple Leafs| 9| 6| 4| 19
Columbus Blue Jackets| 4| 4| 1| 9
Edmonton Oilers| 3| 6| 2| 11
Calgary Flames| 3| 3| 7| 13
Arizona Coyotes| 2| 3| 3| 8
Buffalo Sabres| 2| 3| 3| 8
Winnipeg Jets| 2| 1| 2| 5
Ottawa Senators| 2| 0| 0| 2
Vancouver Canucks| 1| 1| 4| 6
Colorado Avalanche| 1| 1| 2| 4
New Jersey Devils| 1| 1| 0| 2
Montreal Canadiens| 0| 1| 2| 3

Not so good to us this time.

Well here's mine for today it should make everyone feel better:

 

[Intangibos]

Maybe that's what they meant but those of us saying this team was a bottom 5 looking team back in October were saying that based on the roster we were actually seeing on the ice. So while you may have been qualifying it with "actual NHL talent", we were talking about a team with Bartowski, Prust, Dorsett, Weber, Sbisa, etc. Which was reality at the time.

I said this team would be bottom 5, and probably even bottom 3. I'm just attacking Y2K's post since I took it as a "the Sedins aren't good" post when in reality I don't think much could have kept this ship afloat.

Also, with Sutter, this would have been a 100 point playoff team

 

[me2]

Toronto
Cbus
Montreal


Canucks 5th.