Post-Game Talk: Post Game, Jets Sens

[10Ducky10]

Sure it is but he got 6 minutes tonight when usually the third pair gets around 15 to 17 per game. That's what I meant, we need to see if he can take a regular third paring shift.

Patience garsshopper. I'd be happy if he played well for 9-11 minutes next game and go from there.
If he eventually plays 14 or so minutes on the 3rd pair, I'd be more than happy.
In two years we could see...
JMo DeMelo
Heinola Slamberg
Stan the Man Poolman
Kov and Gawanke as our 7 and 8 D men.
Slamberg and Stan the Man on 1PK.

Actually, next game I'd like to see...
JMo Poink
ForBort Heinola
Stanley Slamberg
See which one of the bottom 4 come out when DeMelo comes back but we know we will continue to see Boolow.

 

[FonRiesen]

What I am really liking is the current PP formation. They haven't been lighting the lamp but they are creating a lot of different looks and quality chances.

I really like the interplay between Conner and Morrissey up top, they have generated a number of good one timer and other shooting chances.

The down low combination of Scheifele, Wheeler and Stastny is also causing a lot of issues for the opposition PKers and have created a number of different looks. Scheifele being a threat to walk in and shoot forces teams to play him tight which opens up the down low plays. The only thing is we need a better finisher then Stastny in that spot. Could be an option for Perfetti down the line.

Honestly, I thought KFC was doing most of the work on the PP today - he was flying, getting to loose pucks, and creating space with his slick moves. The others were at least passable today (yesterday was not great...).

I'm really hoping they keep him opposite Laine for a double scoring threat like that 5v3 in game 1. How do you even defend against that setup?

 

[roccerfeller]

The sky is still certainly falling, we did not deserve to win that at all, lol. Let's see how the next game goes though.

I dont disagree, but to be fair to the Jets, we had a lot of these types of losses so I just accept it as hockey karma

 

[surixon]

Patience garsshopper. I'd be happy if he played well for 9-11 minutes next game and go from there.
If he eventually plays 14 or so minutes on the 3rd pair, I'd be more than happy.
In two years we could see...
JMo DeMelo
Heinola Slamberg
Stan the Man Poolman
Kov and Gawanke as our 7 and 8 D men.
Slamberg and Stan the Man on 1PK.

Actually, next game I'd like to see...
JMo Poink
ForBort Heinola
Stanley Slamberg
See which one of the bottom 4 come out when DeMelo comes back but we know we will continue to see Boolow.

I would like to see that as well but you know Moe won't mess with a winning lineup. I expect to see the same thing next ga.e but hopefully our execution and consistency is much better.

 

[jetsforever]

Not a lot of blips for Stanley or Niku for the last bit. View attachment 386057

Is Scheif ever not on the ice?!

 

[10Ducky10]

I would like to see that as well but you know Moe won't mess with a winning lineup. I expect to see the same thing next ga.e but hopefully our execution and consistency is much better.

He's gotta be seeing what everyone else is with Niku in his own zone.
I'd really like to see what Slamberg looks like. He'd be my pick to convert to the right side.

 

[surixon]

He's gotta be seeing what everyone else is with Niku in his own zone.
I'd really like to see what Slamberg looks like. He'd be my pick to convert to the right side.

I'm sure he does. He's just place holding until DeMelo on Saturday.

 

[10Ducky10]

I'm sure he does. He's just place holding until DeMelo on Saturday.

Is that when he is expected back in?

 

[29from27and55]

People are putting way too much on Ves. He is unlikely to be to help much on the top-6, he only had half a point per game in the AHL. I'd rather Harkins play up there.

either way he has to get into games over plugs like perrault lewis thompson. he needs experiance and has had a great attitude adjustment get him minutes to learn

 

[abax44]

Is Scheif ever not on the ice?!

Just slightly less than Brossoit.

 

[Hiukafen]

Great win!

I think schedule helps Jets now as there are not Leafs games before 7th March and Habs before 25th January. Those are two teams predicted to be TOP4 in division. At least I was counting Habs over Oilers and Flames.

So most probably Laine, DeMelo and also Heinola will be in line-up that time. Hopefully already before 3 games against Flames in February.

Before that there is still 2 games against Sens and Oilers, and one game against Canucks. I think Jets can win 4 or even all of those without them. Oilers seems to be same old.

 

[voyageur]

I kind of half hazardly watched this game. 2 points is 2 points. Put them in the bank.

Things I liked:

Copp-Lowry-Appleton, getting us on the board, with a battle shift, when we needed one.

The move Maurice made to reunite Connor with Scheif-Wheeler. Gave us some jump.

The PP, with Connor on the flank, and Wheeler in a bumper position behind the net. I hope we keep this formation, moving Scheif into Stastny's spot, and Laine on the other flank, like the way the shooting options start to open up, and as Wheels is losing his wheels, put the sizeable vet, in a place where he doesn't have use as much speed, but is in a strong puck moving position, and around the net. Like seeing old Josh rip one from the point when we needed one.

Forbort-Pionk, this pairing is starting to look more comfortable in my eyes.

Brossoit's bounce back. Tough start, strong finish, we still give up the front of the net too easy, but he stood in there.

Ehlers GWG. He doesn't seem on to start, maybe he just needed to get some confidence. Beauty dish by Copper.

Things I didn't like.

Perreault starting in the top 6. This gimmick is up. We don't have a true top 6 if Perreault is in it. I also think that moving Copp up takes away from the checking line dominance, though I can't say if this is statistically correct.

I'll say the 4th line, because I can't remember them attacking the offensive zone once. Thompson needs to be better, or get a kick in the ass (i.e pressbox). I haven't been impressed with anyone really on the 4th line to start the season.

The PK. I didn't watch closely enough to have a proper analysis, but we are barely over 50% on the PK for the year, so adjustments please. Getting Appleton out there seems like a no brainer, maybe split up your units to something like Lowry-Lewis, Copp-Apples. Personnel on defense is also a problem, but that's what we have. Getting De Melo back into the lineup this week should reverberate. Morrissey certainly hasn't been his old self on the PK to start, and I don't know if that is because of Beaulieu, or other factors.

Niku's knack for penalties. Being a -, and now leading the team in 2 penalties that have led to goals against is not a strong start to the season. Not going to shit on this guy, but the minutes he got tonight speak for themselves. Like everyone else, you have to wonder if Heinola could bring more.

I predicted Ottawa would be a better team than most had them marked down as, and we've seen signs that they can play. Game 2 of the series should have more intensity.

I enjoyed the company more than the game, but I'm happy about this depleted team finding ways to win.

 

[Halberdier]

Shouldn't have won that game. Maurice nearly screwed us.

Happy with the win though.

True, but a couple of positive stuff from Maurice (or coaching staff anyway) :

-Wheeler played behind the net on PP. Netted a couple of nice assists doing that and Connor is a real threat on his new position.

-they did not start OT with 26&55.

Ottawa should have won that game, but in the end only goals count. Croissant was good, Jets good enough with excellent scoring by Connor & Ehlers and a bit of luck with a couple of redirections.

It's also good for the team to win without Laine, just like it was back then when they had to win without Scheifele. Injuries suck, but they kind of make room for other heroes.

 

[jetsforever]

Ehlers' 1st career OT goal!

 

[Whileee]

A couple of coaching moves I did like in OT...

Starting with Stastny and Connor - Stastny is the Jets' best FO guy, and the Jets started with possession and Connor had a good chance from the slot.

Copp and Ehlers - Copp is such a high impact player with his speed, and has underrated offensive skills. He can cover for Ehlers' freewheeling style, and keep up with him.

 

[PhilJets]

A couple of coaching moves I did like in OT...

Starting with Stastny and Connor - Stastny is the Jets' best FO guy, and the Jets started with possession and Connor had a good chance from the slot.

Copp and Ehlers - Copp is such a high impact player with his speed, and has underrated offensive skills. He can cover for Ehlers' freewheeling style, and keep up with him.

I thought the coach doesn't read the HFBOARD?

 

[Belhammer16]

On the Sens broadcast they called Logan Stanley- "Logan Paul"

No they misspoke Nick Paul, forward on the sens

 

[jetsforever]

A couple of coaching moves I did like in OT...

Starting with Stastny and Connor - Stastny is the Jets' best FO guy, and the Jets started with possession and Connor had a good chance from the slot.

Copp and Ehlers - Copp is such a high impact player with his speed, and has underrated offensive skills. He can cover for Ehlers' freewheeling style, and keep up with him.

Yeah those moves obviously worked out, but I'm pretty tempted to just throw out KC+Ehlers and watch the show

 

[jetsforever]

Patience garsshopper. I'd be happy if he played well for 9-11 minutes next game and go from there.
If he eventually plays 14 or so minutes on the 3rd pair, I'd be more than happy.
In two years we could see...
JMo DeMelo
Heinola Slamberg
Stan the Man Poolman
Kov and Gawanke as our 7 and 8 D men.
Slamberg and Stan the Man on 1PK.

Actually, next game I'd like to see...
JMo Poink
ForBort Heinola
Stanley Slamberg
See which one of the bottom 4 come out when DeMelo comes back but we know we will continue to see Boolow.

TBH Morrissey is great but unless he starts improving more I'll be a bit disappointed if he remains our #1D for years.

 

[Jets 31]

They didn’t deserve it in my mind. But two points is two points.

 

[Easternbull]

Can't beleive how Button is gushing over Wheeler and Scheffele's play when they could get nothing done 5v5 until Connor was put on their line. It's obvious Blake can only produce on the pp

Please take out Niku I was wrong he will never be an nhl player, but Josh Morrisey is not a pp quaterback either, that spot is Heinola's for the taking.

Give Ves a shot me thinks

 

[Jets 31]

I think Brossoit deserves this award tonight

Nice sequence on the O/T goal.

I love your replay posts, they are always so nice and clear.

 

[Calcutta]

I'm no expert, don't know much about stats or strategy, but watching that was pretty painful. KC and Nik can get us out of trouble with the speed and skill but besides the goals we were played off the ice.

 

[PhilJets]

Broisswall was good last night.
Hope he can keep it up.

Hellybrick and him will be tough to beat going forward.
They can make the key saves , game changing saves.


Jets have the gunners to score goals.

I'm not saying to forget defense but coach Mo maybe don't need to re invite/spread his already thin competent dmen.

So
JMO demelo
Forbort Pionk

Should be the top 4 period.

Rotate bottom 6
Beaulieu/Poolman/ Niku share
Then
Samberg/Heinola/Stanley share

The powerplay looks like it will do well.
Now!! about the PK, why can't they ever fix it?

Is it personnel? Been few years
Or system?

 

[ps241]

Ok some random thoughts.

I drank a bit too much last night.

Word of advice for those that were frustrated with the tone in the GDT. I started putting our GDT’s on ignore the moment the puck dropped years ago and it changed my HFBoards experience. Nothing good happens after sundown in that town. That being said people are allowed to vent and it I s the true group therapy spot. “I choose not to run”.

I have said I am not going to worry too much in the first 10 games and I will stick to that strategy. Sure we were a mess but Ehlers is playing hurt (according to Mo), Laine is out, DeMelo is currently out and those are all key cogs.

Negatives........have been well documented and are real. No need to get flagged for piling on.

Positives

Like everyone said the new look PP with Wheeler low post, Laine in his office when he is back, and Connor on the grassy knoll is great and much harder to defend.

KC appears to be taking another step early this season. That is really important.

Stanley looks calm and is moving well. At this point he looks like a solid bottom pairing NHL D man. You have no idea how much joy this is brining me. I get it, he needs to be stress tested with more minutes and less sheltered but so far so good. Also you don’t draft someone that early to play bottom pair. However........baby steps are the cutest steps.

Goaltending........thank you Bro you were awesome outside the first goal and you were my first star. After suffering PTSD from the Pavs years I never get tired of watching a goalie steal one.

resilience.......last night wasn’t our night but we hung in and grabbed 2 points. Josh was freakin embattled, playing bad himself, stuck on the top pair with a #8 non NHL D man, under siege, but he just hung in, took his beating, steadied himself, and contributed in a big way to the win late.

Nik is playing poorly and banged up but he didn’t quit and gets the OT winner.

Right now this team looks a tad slow and rusty ( like pretty much every other team) but we are hanging around. We are not bringing close to our A game and we are somehow 2-1.

why I remain calm and possibly even optimistic is because this isn’t last season. Last season there was no hope. Samberg was in year 3 at UMD, Heinola was struggling in Finland, DeMelo was playing well in Ottawa and the Jets D core was a mess. Fast forward to this season and I can easily envision a time late in the season where one or two of Ville and Dilly are contributing in a very meaningful way and DeMelo and Josh are playing solid on the top pair. Last season the cavalry wasn’t coming this season they may not come either but they are in our pro system, a year older, AVAILABLE, and both really talented. It may be faint hope but I do have hope that injuries will provide opportunity and once they arrive they aren’t leaving. It doesn’t take much to fix a D core and we have some intriguing options idling.

As for last night.......I’ll take it.