Americanadian
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Someone needs to provide a reality check in here once in awhile (everyday).
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keonsbitterness
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Couple of years??? We've got major decisions that need to be made in the next six weeks!
Leaf Rocket
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Most of the leafs fans you likely see on the mainboards are...a very different representation of what many of those who are here. I'll just leave it at that
All fan bases obviously have their biases.Most of the leafs fans you likely see on the mainboards are...a very different representation of what many of those who are here. I'll just leave it at that
No one is immune against it.
Reading postings on your board I have noticed that a lot of Toronto fans are interested in trades with LA.
My idea was just to give you view from Kings side regarding my team needs.
Leaf Rocket
Leaf Fan Till I Die
Fair point but having a large fanbase = more of them at display
Absolutely understandable and it was well appreciated. Who would you guys would be interested in from our team obvious answers aside from Matthews?
LaPlante94
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Any team that has a lot of good prospects is gonna be involved in every trade proposal people make on these boards so I guess you can take that as your team has been drafting very well.
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I would like to like to answer your question with my question.Fair point but having a large fanbase = more of them at display
Absolutely understandable and it was well appreciated. Who would you guys would be interested in from our team obvious answers aside from Matthews?
Can you please tell what assets on your team will help Kings with physical defense, quality goaltending and physicality in general?
Leaf Rocket
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Goalie wise we have Woll and Samsonov, which I think we'll go tandem with unless we trade Sammy's rights to you guys since he's luckily still an RFA. I don't think Murray will help you guys since that guy can't just stay healthy unless you guys can make him into a goddamn legend like he used to be. Murray probably has the best head out of the three but he can't buy health if his life and career depend on it lmao.
Physical Defense, the defenseman that best offers that is probably McCabe but a team with our cap structure will highly unlikely to move him. Holl is a free agent and might be someone you can utilize just...don't overutilize him. He's an analytical great for a lot of people but our Coach specifically (who is moving on very likely) loved him to death and probably to the point where he lost his own job for it because of the over usage. Schenn could also help there but he is likely to re-sign with us since there has been mutual interest. Dahlstrom comes to mind in that regard tbh who can potentially be a chip or maybe Kral (unsure about this one).
Physical overall we are looking to do ourselves into that field, and that's where I would say someone like Lafferty where we still have rights too, other than we are looking for similar things tbh.
Goalie aside
Thank youGoalie wise we have Woll and Samsonov, which I think we'll go tandem with unless we trade Sammy's rights to you guys since he's luckily still an RFA. I don't think Murray will help you guys since that guy can't just stay healthy unless you guys can make him into a goddamn legend like he used to be. Murray probably has the best head out of the three but he can't buy health if his life and career depend on it lmao.
Physical Defense, the defenseman that best offers that is probably McCabe but a team with our cap structure will highly unlikely to move him. Holl is a free agent and might be someone you can utilize just...don't overutilize him. He's an analytical great for a lot of people but our Coach specifically (who is moving on very likely) loved him to death and probably to the point where he lost his own job for it because of the over usage. Schenn could also help there but he is likely to re-sign with us since there has been mutual interest. Dahlstrom comes to mind in that regard tbh who can potentially be a chip or maybe Kral (unsure about this one).
Physical overall we are looking to do ourselves into that field, and that's where I would say someone like Lafferty where we still have rights too, other than we are looking for similar things tbh.
Goalie aside
WTFMAN99
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The reality is most people are dumb...and there are a LOT of Toronto fans so chances are you do encounter some clowns but if you articulate your thoughts pretty well, people can appreciate your thought process.
I had a dumbass idea about trading JT to Boston because UFA centres are bad and JT visited there at least but posters kindly pointed out how the cap wasn't going to quite work, did it for myself and sure enough, didn't look viable.
I'm one of the clowns for sure.
IF we were to trade Marner to me it needs to be for a top prospect, Cooley being my preference.
Or for at least two young, cost-controlled, quality top 6ers. Not many options for this out there, but annoyingly Ottawa is a weirdly good fit. I just posted this in a Marner thread:
Marner for Batherson + Pinto + JBD or 24’ 1st
Debrincat sold for futures
Sens run:
Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Norris - Marner
Leafs run:
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Tavares - Pinto - Batherson
Or for at least two young, cost-controlled, quality top 6ers. Not many options for this out there, but annoyingly Ottawa is a weirdly good fit. I just posted this in a Marner thread:
Marner for Batherson + Pinto + JBD or 24’ 1st
Debrincat sold for futures
Sens run:
Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Norris - Marner
Leafs run:
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Tavares - Pinto - Batherson
I could see detroit.
They want to make some noise. Will need defence but they have
Edvinsson. Raymond, rassmussen, kasper 9th, 17th lverall
IF Anaheim wanted to I would do mctavish and one of the D.
They have fantilli/zegras as top 2 c
I think we probably just trade willy to Washington for the 8th overall and a pick He would sign with sandin his dad etc.
Flip the 8th for a D or something we need
Dreakmur
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Marner should be traded to change up salary cap allocation and team chemistry.
Calgary - Lindholm and Anderson
— adds a top-2 defender and a second C that can push Tavares to the wing.
Detroit - Seider
— adds a potential #1 defender.
New York - Miller and Lafreniere
— adds an excellent shut-down defender and a potential top-6 winger.
Winnipeg - Dubois and Pionk
— adds a mean second c and a good top-4 defender
Calgary is dollar in dollar out.
I don’t see detroit doing that
NYR value is ok but they have no space and have an 11 million winger
Dubois is supposedly ear marked for Montreal
Lol are you serious? Detroit laughs you off the phone. They will never ever do this. New York wouldn't either. Neither would Calgary
Ottawa wouldn’t be a bad trading partner, Batherson and Pinto would definitely be good additions.
Dreakmur
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Marner+Liljgren for those two is the one that makes the most sense to me.
Yeah, probably not.
Miller is likely to get a sizable contract, so they'll have to make room regardless. I'd be pretty comfortable going 8x8, maybe even 9x8.
Obviously this would be conditional on him singing a multi-year contract.
Dreakmur
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I wouldn't let NYR have Marner unless K'Andre Miller comes back.
Chris isn't waiving his nmc and they aren't trading Brandon
You aren't getting Cooley for Marner. Marner with two years left @ 11 mil isn't worth what you guys think
Americanadian
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Coincidentally they are both persons of interest!
I really don't think a new GM will have the guts to trade 100pt Marner in his first off-season. This isn't a 29 year old rental Huberdeau situation. I think it would have been more likely if Dubas stayed.
Have no doubt Nylander will be the sacrificial lamb. I think league wide GMs value him less than the fan perception, even though he's the better playoff performer. Just a feeling. My guess is a Hanifin+ caliber return, which most probably don't like on paper.
Have no doubt Nylander will be the sacrificial lamb. I think league wide GMs value him less than the fan perception, even though he's the better playoff performer. Just a feeling. My guess is a Hanifin+ caliber return, which most probably don't like on paper.
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What possible Marner, Nylander trades could look like for Maple Leafs — Sportsnet
If the Maple Leafs do decide to alter their core with a trade, Mitch Marner and William Nylander appear to be the most likely candidates. Ryan Dixon proposes a trade for each player to better understand what the return for Toronto could look like.
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I have no issues with what you said, and appreciate the across the aisle perspective, and the way you put it.
I don’t typically make trade proposals because it’s a pointless pursuit and becomes a platform for others to thread crap without adding anything beyond “have you recently suffered a head injury” type snark.
I based my proposal off of this article on Sportsnet that made the initial Marner to LA deal, and I swapped out what I felt made it better value for Toronto.
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Zegs2sendhelp
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For what its worth, we just finished as the Last place time in the league. And most of our D prospects prob need a year in the AHL before they will start showing up in the NHL (exceptions being maybe Hinds/Mintyukov).
Our defense is too weak to make move for a guy like Marner this year, i imagine were going to draft Fantilli/Carlsson and prob end up with another top 10 pick in 2024.... then next year youll start to see our dmen join our NHL ranks... and guys like Zegras Terry McTavish and Fantilli really start to find their comfort levels at the NHL.
Verbeek has been very outspoken about building through the draft, and i think hell continue that trend this year. Chances are we move Zegras to the wing and run Fantilli - McTavish down the middle.... which means stylistically marner isnt exactly what well be looking for either. Well need more of a debrusk/bertuzzi/Tkachuk type to compliment our top6.
I just dont see anaheim aiming at anyone in the trade market, unless its something like Bjorkstrand, Toews, Buchenevic type deals where your getting a good player for throwaway assets and cap space.
Malachi Crunch
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Coincidentally, I was just going to come on here and mention Formenton. Let's say he's innocent, he may be the type of guy who needs a change of scenery. Don't think he'd come at a high price either since he doesn't have a contract. He's trending to be a very fast, big, middle six type forward. Possibly more.
I've been saying that the Sens are not an ideal, but a realistic, trading partner for us if we're looking to shop Marner. Even with a cap-in/cap-out trade, we can walk away with a 2c and a 1F. They want a star and they want playoffs.
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