Post Deadline Transactions and Signings

[andora]

Here's my very early off-season breakdown before July 1st while bored at work. Flame away but I think I did at the very least OK to keep it fair.

-Marner to the Kings for Byfield, Vilardi and 2024 1st rounder (conditional/protected). This is tough to gauge and I'm struggling to find the perfect fit for both sides but I think it would be between Byfield and Clarke, and then a good young player (Vilardi or Durzi?) and then pick(s). Around the Eichel trade value. My view on Byfield is not that great but can't argue his potential and Vilardi's health makes me scared but can't argue with his recent production.

-Brodie to the Kraken for our own 2nd (2023) and another 2023 2nd round pick. They'll probably want more defensive quality and this is a good price for a stable veteran that fits their team very well. Hakstol knows Brodie as well. Leafs sell relatively high on a declining asset likely not retained past the year.

-Abruzzese, Murray and BOS 1st round pick to the Flyers for Laughton. Flyers are in full rebuild mode so getting a stop gap goaltender, a solid young player along with a 1st round pick for an average player signed for awhile is a good start. Leafs could use a primed Laughton in their bottom lines and he did have a career year.

-Re-sign Schenn to a 1 year deal and Acciari to a 2 year deal, both between 1.5M and 2M cap hits. Matthews and Nylander signed long-term to whatever it comes out to.

--This open up a lot of cap space and big changes. A good amount of size added, mixed with shooting ability and puck pursuit. Their big priority would be finding a really good center and a defenseman in free agency. Losing Marner will hurt a lot more than people think but it opens up room for depth.

Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Vilardi
Byfield - ? - Acciari
Laughton - Holmberg - Lafferty

young options: Robertson, McMann, Steeves, Hirvonen.

McCabe - ?
Rielly - Schenn
Giordano - Liljegren
? - Timmins

options: Niemela, Villeneuve... (need more quality depth).

Samsonov
Woll

I like the ideas but to keep byfield moving forward we need to have him LW on one of the top 2 lines

He played well the last couple months and you can see talent.. he needs to keep playing with talent

Personally, the player I'd want the most is Soucy, I've liked him quite a bit but watching him in the playoffs just confirmed that. Mayfield would be right after. I feel like Orlov will just re-up in Boston...also the price I feel like will be too much as well.

I am not well-informed about Graves, so I have no say or comment. Whatever helps us stabilize the back a bit more I will take it.

Soucy yes.. mayfield and graves .. like them but no both are extremely slow .. soucy isnt jetting around but is better

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Any trade involving Marner needs to have either A) Top 6 Centerman coming back to shift JT to the wing ++ other assests
B) Top 2 Dman coming back, wonder

For those at the bottom/middle of the pack in the NHL, what teams can offer that

Marner for Werenski?

Columbus gets someone who can play with Gaudreau. They also get another marketable player.

Columbus has some amazing d-man just about to enter the league (e.g., Jiricek, Mateychuk). Maybe they can dangle Werenski as Jiricek is going to be their #1 RHD in the future.

 

[Amadeus]

Marner for Werenski?

Columbus gets someone who can play with Gaudreau. They also get another marketable player.

Columbus has some amazing d-man just about to enter the league (e.g., Jiricek, Mateychuk). Maybe they can dangle Werenski as Jiricek is going to be their #1 RHD in the future.

Not enough for Marner. Needs to include another piece or two and significant ones.

 

[Fogelhund]

Marner for Werenski?

Columbus gets someone who can play with Gaudreau. They also get another marketable player.

Columbus has some amazing d-man just about to enter the league (e.g., Jiricek, Mateychuk). Maybe they can dangle Werenski as Jiricek is going to be their #1 RHD in the future.

Columbus's need is a C, not more wingers.

Werenski's cap hit of almost $9.583 mil doesn't give us any further room than we have now.

Our need is more to improve the forwards, than make the forwards worse, and add to D.

 

[4thline]

Our need is more to improve the forwards, than make the forwards worse, and add to D.

Our need is to ice a potentially different group that can perform when the chips are down in the playoffs. Whether or not that is on on paper "improvement" is both yet to be seen, and hard to see. Our F group is no worse than and arguably better than any in the final 4- on paper.

 

[mapleleafs34]

Marner for Fiala +

 

[4thline]

By ATOI, this playoffs, final 4 top 6's

Canes
Jarvis/Aho/Necas/ Martinook/Kotkaniemi/Noesen
Knights
Eichel/Stone/Stephenson/Karlsson/Marchessault/Smith
Stars
Robertson/Hintz/Pavelski/Benn/Johnston/Seguin
Panthers
Barkov/Tkachuk/Reinhart/Bennett/Verheage/Lundell

 

[mydnyte]

Marner for Fiala +

there are a few +++ missing

 

[mydnyte]

Any trade involving Marner needs to have either A) Top 6 Centerman coming back to shift JT to the wing ++ other assests
B) Top 2 Dman coming back, wonder

For those at the bottom/middle of the pack in the NHL, what teams can offer that

Marner should bring in a #1D on his own, or a future sure thing #1D.

 

[613Leafer]

Here's my very early off-season breakdown before July 1st while bored at work. Flame away but I think I did at the very least OK to keep it fair.

-Marner to the Kings for Byfield, Vilardi and 2024 1st rounder (conditional/protected). This is tough to gauge and I'm struggling to find the perfect fit for both sides but I think it would be between Byfield and Clarke, and then a good young player (Vilardi or Durzi?) and then pick(s). Around the Eichel trade value. My view on Byfield is not that great but can't argue his potential and Vilardi's health makes me scared but can't argue with his recent production.

I would lean towards Clark over Byfield. Feels like we've been looking for a potential top pairing RHD with size for 15+ years, and he seems to be more of a riser since his draft whereas Byfield seems to be more of a faller.

For cap purposes, I think it would need to maybe be a guy like Kempe instead of Vilardi, with the trade adjusted as needed (ie drop the 1st, and we may even have to retain like ~1-1.5M in salary). LA can't really add Marners 10.9M without moving something big out.

Otherwise, I dropped the rest of your post from the quoted text, but I'd agree we could benefit from moving Brodie. For playoff physical hockey, that money may be better spent on a guy like Gavrikov, Graves, etc (who are also younger and should have ~5 years of good hockey left).

Hopefully Marners capspace can also be used to spread out a bit more offence onto the 3rd line as well.

 

[SprDaVE]

I would lean towards Clark over Byfield. Feels like we've been looking for a potential top pairing RHD with size for 15+ years, and he seems to be more of a riser since his draft whereas Byfield seems to be more of a faller.

For cap purposes, I think it would need to maybe be a guy like Kempe instead of Vilardi, with the trade adjusted as needed (ie drop the 1st, and we may even have to retain like ~1-1.5M in salary). LA can't really add Marners 10.9M without moving something big out.

Otherwise, I dropped the rest of your post from the quoted text, but I'd agree we could benefit from moving Brodie. For playoff physical hockey, that money may be better spent on a guy like Gavrikov, Graves, etc (who are also younger and should have ~5 years of good hockey left).

Hopefully Marners capspace can also be used to spread out a bit more offence onto the 3rd line as well.

That's fair. I agree for the most part as well about Clarke vs Byfield.

Not sure if the Kings would have any interest in trading Kempe after his 40 goal season and locked up at under 6M until 2026 though. He'd probably be on the no trade list from my eyes but they would definitely need to shed cap space in some way. Probably a few different ways they go about it.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Columbus's need is a C, not more wingers.

Werenski's cap hit of almost $9.583 mil doesn't give us any further room than we have now.

Our need is more to improve the forwards, than make the forwards worse, and add to D.

I hear you but I'm assuming Marner gets a signficant raise in 2 years time while Weresnki is signed until 2027-28. So a little more money saved in a few years.

Werenski is a smooth skating, point producing first pairing RHD on a crap team. I think he would kill it over here.

Maybe building from the defense out is the way to go for the retooled Leafs.

 

[TMLAM34]

I hear you but I'm assuming Marner gets a signficant raise in 2 years time while Weresnki is signed until 2027-28. So a little more money saved in a few years.

Werenski is a smooth skating, point producing first pairing RHD on a crap team. I think he would kill it over here.

Maybe building from the defense out is the way to go for the retooled Leafs.

Isn't Werenski a LHD?

 

[TMLAM34]

In a way I hope Carolina looses to Florida and is looking to make a major shake up with one of their stars like we are.

Marner for Svechnikov straight up. Carolina gets the better player, we get a better contract. One can dream.

Jarnkrok - Matthews - Svechnikov

Lots of shooting weapons on that line.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Isn't Werenski a LHD?

Damnit....you're right.

 

[showtime8]

Marner is the one that should be traded but at fair value. Trading him for depth makes no sense. The package needs to be strong that a player like him should get.

I know it's not going to be the same because of injury, but you could look at the trade for Jack Eichel that brought in Tuch, Krebs, a 1st & a 2nd.

Centre is a different position in terms of return, but you're going to look at forwards that have the ability increase their play with more opportunity.

 

[Maplebeasts]

If we trade Nylander or Marner we should
Target Konecny and Laughton

Only if there’s a HUGE plus on the Flyers end.

 

[Americanadian]

I don't think there's any 1 for 1 trades that really make sense (for both teams) for any of Nylander/Matthews/Marner. Trading them for quality team controlled assets is the best possible outcome.

 

[TMLAM34]

I wonder if there’s any possibility of Nylander heading to LA. Seems like a player they’d love and a destination Nylander could really flourish in. He’d get to play with a close friend in Kempe and it’s definitely a spot probably everyone can see Nylander re-signing in.

I’m not nearly as high on Byfield as most here. Even watching him for team Canada in the juniors he never really stood out to me in a very positive way.

I wonder if there could be any traction on something around Nylander for Byfield + Vilardi. Obviously there would be other pieces going both ways.

I also don’t see either Vilardi or Byfield as NHL centres, they’re better on the wing.

 

[Duffman955]

Who are our UFA targets?

 

[TMLAM34]

Who are our UFA targets?

There really isn’t many good options this year.

Forwards: O’Reilly, Bertuzzi, Brown, Wood and Acciari?

Defence: Severson, Dumba, Soucy and Graves?

 

[Gallagbi]

What’s in it for Tavares?

Big Will Ferrell fan, finally gets his shot to meet him.

 

[Americanadian]

EvolvingHockey dropped their contract projections for next season. Their projection have been the most accurate projections available since they started publishing them.

Notable leafs:
ROR: 5.5Mx3
Bunting: 5.4Mx4
Samsonov: 5.2Mx4
Kerfoot: 3.7Mx4
Holl: 3.5Mx3
Kampf: 2.2Mx3
Acciari: 2.1Mx3
Schenn: 1.6Mx2

Notable UFAs (to me):
Bertuzzi: 5.5Mx4
Rodrigues: 4.8Mx4
Soucy: 2.6Mx3
Brown: 2Mx1
Blueger: 1.6Mx1

 

[andora]

EvolvingHockey dropped their contract projections for next season. Their projection have been the most accurate projections available since they started publishing them.

Notable leafs:
ROR: 5.5Mx3
Bunting: 5.4Mx4
Samsonov: 5.2Mx4
Kerfoot: 3.7Mx4
Holl: 3.5Mx3
Kampf: 2.2Mx3
Acciari: 2.1Mx3
Schenn: 1.6Mx2

Notable UFAs (to me):
Bertuzzi: 5.5Mx4
Rodrigues: 4.8Mx4
Soucy: 2.6Mx3
Brown: 2Mx1
Blueger: 1.6Mx1

Some of the leaf ones i am going to laugh at whoever does close to those

Soucy will likely be there or a little more little less but could be one of the safest players this yeas

 

[TMLAM34]

Hopefully we can re-sign O’Reilly. From his last interview I’m not 100% confident he wants to re-sign here but hopefully I’m wrong.