Confirmed with Link: PLD to the Kings for Iafallo, Vilardi, Kupari and a 2nd in 2024 (orig Mtl’s pick)

[surixon]

The biggest problem we Kings fan have is that the team had soooo much promise coming out of the rebuild but or GM has butchered it. He listened to Kopitar and Doughty's complaints and used the cap space they gained by selling vets to, well, buy more vets. None of the kids have been used in a way to maximize their development, they have been squeezed into spots they have never played - 6 straight first round drafted centers and none of them had been given the patience to develop. Kaliyev on the 4th line with plugs, top defensive prospects shelved for worse players with guaranteed deals.

Its a self-destroying cycle: kids can't be trusted in top spots since the goal is to contend now, but they are put into spots further down the lineup where the team badly needed some real veteran role players to help their brutal PK and boardwork to grind out wins.

Vilardi FINALLY broke thru past year, the first recent pick to do so. We were proud of him and can see where he is headed, and now he is gone. Its a huge bummer to see what could have been.

I definitely understand that frustration. We saw similar here in the later years of Maurice with young players being pigeon holed into roles. Heck our Norris candidate Morrissey was held back by his coach insisting he be a defensive minded dmen because we had two many offensive guys.....

We've also seen with some prospects like Heinola being blocked.

Hopefully Byfield continues with Kopitar and can break out next year and Clarke gets a proper role.

 

[Guardian17]

 

[Scheifele55]

I am glad Montreal didn't get Dubois. The last thing I want to see is Dubois score in Winnipeg and have Habs fans cheering.

 

[bennylundholm]

I dunno. Depending on who else is going with PLD, iafallo and Kupari are upgrades over some of the trash we trotted out there last year. Vilardi is a step down from Dubois. Does it all wash out? If so, chevy did an OK job in a tough spot

Ehlers schief perfetti
Connor vilardi Nino
Barron Lowry iafallo
XXX Gus Apples

(Assuming Harkins is part of the deal)

Re-sign Names and I think that forward group looks better than what we iced this year to be honest

Isn't Vilardi the guy who tried slicing off Nino's foot?

 

[gojetsgo]

Isn't Vilardi the guy who tried slicing off Nino's foot?

veleno

 

[Rick Knickleback]

I was gonna post in the Kings board asking why folks are so down on the extension - The trade is what it is, and I understand being not too happy about the assets going out the door, but I'm baffled at people saying 8.5x8 is too much.

I'd have loved to get PLD at that number.

Vilardi is the most exciting forward prospect the Kings have drafted and developed since Kopitar. I just bought my son a Vilardi jersey last season Also, just not sold on PLD. Both the metrics and the optics make me a skeptic.

 

[KingBogo]

To Kings fans stopping by. The best of PLD is amazing. When he is on form he controls a game like few others. There were times early last season I thought the guy was easily worth $10 M+ a season. But as the season wore on we saw fewer and fewer of these games. If you can harness the best of him you will have a hell of a player. The question for you is if you ever get that type of consistency.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Still mad on the trade board.

Gunna buy a new mug:

 

[surixon]

I think Chevy did well, considering the corner he was painted into. But to me, why does he keep gettIng painted into a corner? Why is there a parade of good players wanting out? Can we chalk it all up to the Winnipeg disadvantage of being an undesirable small market, or is something else going on with the culture? That Chevy has ignored and let fester?

In Dubois case he didn't want to be here in the first place. He wanted a certain thing from an early age and angled to it. That was fully his decision and that's fine.

Others wanted out for playing time and you see that on every team. You only have a limited window to make big dollars so opportunity is everything especially for bottom of the roster players.

I think some have just been here too long and needed a change.

 

[Stumbledore]

I think Chevy did well, considering the corner he was painted into. But to me, why does he keep gettIng painted into a corner?

Maybe he doesn't think he's being painted into a corner? Maybe he sees it as creating an opportunity for a good trade?

Our ways are not Chevy's ways and his thought are not our thoughts, to coin a phrase.

 

[surixon]

Maybe he doesn't think he's being painted into a corner? Maybe he sees it as creating an opportunity for a good trade?

Our ways are not Chevy's ways and his thought are not our thoughts, to coin a phrase.

Also most teams that are going for it "paint themselves into a corner" constantly with players coming due.

Look at Calgary (similar spot with Tkachuk) and with their other marque players this year.

Florida with Weager and Huberdeau
Toronto with Mathews and Nylander
Boston with no fall back option for Bergeron/Krejic

The list goes one

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

My gut tells me we’re going to give up an asset that hurts. This is too good to be true.

 

[Teppo Numenor]

I am glad Montreal didn't get Dubois. The last thing I want to see is Dubois score in Winnipeg and have Habs fans cheering.

I was hoping they would get the next jonathan drouin.

 

[Buffdog]

Maybe he doesn't think he's being painted into a corner? Maybe he sees it as creating an opportunity for a good trade?

Our ways are not Chevy's ways and his thought are not our thoughts, to coin a phrase.

Maybe he's on to something. Get as much use out of a guy for 5 or 6 cheap years, and trade him for one or two more guys like him

In this market, the GM is going to have to be creative. Walking a guy to UFA-1 at 25 or 26 makes him valuable for an acquiring team because his big deal will cover prime years

Come up with a way to game the system in which not only will UFAs not want to come here, but pending UFAs won't want to stay (for the most part). Sign the ones that will stay to long term deals

 

[Lt Dan]

Kings fan here in peace. Just to tell you my magic legged opinion of what you are getting

Vilardi- The obvious prize. Health had been a question mark but he's been pretty durable. Still young and a little streaky but he always has a smile on his face, he scores some big goals and he will be the favorite player of many of you very soon.

Iafallo- Glue guy. He will probably have a letter in the near future. On ice he works hard but has hands of stone. But he will work the corners and do the dirty work but will frustrate you.

Kupari- He's had some flashes. I think with a lot of ice time and some different coaching could peak out as a second line center. He's the wildcard of the trade.

I am really glad you guys got your team back. (I am a Rams fan who saw them come and go) You guys as fans have proven they should have either never left and I hope you guys finally get a cup soon.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

My gut tells me we’re going to give up an asset that hurts. This is too good to be true.

Kupari is a 4th liner with some potential upside. Iofalo is a 3rd liner we have for 1 year. Vilardi has a lot of potential but a big health question mark.

We won't be able to fully evaluate this trade for 2-3 years, at least.

 

[Daximus]

Vilardi is the most exciting forward prospect the Kings have drafted and developed since Kopitar. I just bought my son a Vilardi jersey last season Also, just not sold on PLD. Both the metrics and the optics make me a skeptic.

PLD can be a bit frustrating to watch at times but when he is on there aren't many in the league that can stop him. Physically he's a monster, has a lot of talent and is a solid skater. Consistency has always been his biggest issue but he's also been playing to get out of wherever he has been so far. It looks like he is on board with LA being his long term home so you guys may just get the most committed PLD yet. I don't think he's ever going to be a major producer but he has shown he can absolutely shut guys down while putting the puck in the net when he wants to.

 

[KingBogo]

Also most teams that are going for it "paint themselves into a corner" constantly with players coming due.

Look at Calgary (similar spot with Tkachuk) and with their other marque players this year.

Florida with Weager and Huberdeau
Toronto with Mathews and Nylander
Boston with no fall back option for Bergeron/Krejic

The list goes one

This is a never ending list. TB went to the brink with Stamkos. NYI watched Taveras walk. Columbus watched Panarin walk. St.L with Piet. It happens every season even with teams considered to be desirable locations.

 

[Teppo Numenor]

In Dubois case he didn't want to be here in the first place. He wanted a certain thing from an early age and angled to it. That was fully his decision and that's fine.

Others wanted out for playing time and you see that on every team. You only have a limited window to make big dollars so opportunity is everything especially for bottom of the roster players.

I think some have just been here too long and needed a change.

Bottom roster players dont have much choice. A bottom top nine is what wins. We have been living in luxury with such a talented top six. This is a blessing, wpg didnt lose to vegas’ top six but to their bottom nine.

 

[Daximus]

Kupari is a 4th liner with some potential upside. Iofalo is a 3rd liner we have for 1 year. Vilardi has a lot of potential but a big health question mark.

We won't be able to fully evaluate this trade for 2-3 years, at least.

Iafallo is on a 2 year deal so we have him until 2025. Have a feeling he may become a fan favourite here. He has that type of work ethic and playstyle Winnipegers love.

 

[roccerfeller]

My body is ready.

Reggie fan?

 

[Rick Knickleback]

PLD can be a bit frustrating to watch at times but when he is on there aren't many in the league that can stop him. Physically he's a monster, has a lot of talent and is a solid skater. Consistency has always been his biggest issue but he's also been playing to get out of wherever he has been so far. It looks like he is on board with LA being his long term home so you guys may just get the most committed PLD yet. I don't think he's ever going to be a major producer but he has shown he can absolutely shut guys down while putting the puck in the net when he wants to.

Hey I get it. I had him on my fantasy roster this past season before he got hurt--he was great!

And I get that Kopitar is 36 and his obvious heir apparent isn't materializing yet. I'm bullish on Byfield too, in terms of talent, but the timeline has gotten longer and the ceiling shorter. PLD, at his best, could probably handle that roll and be generally effective, more so than what QB has shown.

Bu itt reminds me of my buddy who says "I'm actually pretty good at golf. I'm just not consistent." I mean, that's kinda the point though?

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Kupari is a 4th liner with some potential upside. Iofalo is a 3rd liner we have for 1 year. Vilardi has a lot of potential but a big health question mark.

We won't be able to fully evaluate this trade for 2-3 years, at least.

ehhh - I guess in hindsight, but I'll always defend this trade. It's not like one more year of PLD is worth more than this to the Jets.

Even if everyone flames out on the Jets side, and PLD develops his game further, it would still be a good risk to take. And it's not like there was another deal out there that would have netted a sure thing, given the circumstances.

The only thing you might evaluate it on is if we should have picked up more picks, as opposed to established NHL players and used the opportunity to embrace a full rebuild, but:

A) That clearly isn't the Jets philosophy

and

B) We still have a bunch of other deals to make if we want to take that route

 

[gojetsgo]

I love this trade because I wanted young players back the have proved they can play in the nhl over late 1sts and prospects still a year or more away and that's if they even make it

 

[Daximus]

Hey I get it. I had him on my fantasy roster this past season before he got hurt--he was great!

And I get that Kopitar is 36 and his obvious heir apparent isn't materializing yet. I'm bullish on Byfield too, in terms of talent, but the timeline has gotten longer and the ceiling shorter. PLD, at his best, could probably handle that roll and be generally effective, more so than what QB has shown.

Bu itt reminds me of my buddy who says "I'm actually pretty good at golf. I'm just not consistent." I mean, that's kinda the point though?

Yeah Dubois is a top 6 C there really is no other way he's going to go for you, He's a pure center. He is always physical regardless of whether the offence is clicking. He's shown he can be a big mean two-way threat. Absolutely manhandled Matthews in the bubble playins a few years ago. He seemed a lot more motivated then. If you guys get that PLD then you likely are in for a deep run with him. Should be able to take the reigns from Kopitar eventually but he's no Kopitar, not many players can or will ever live up to that.