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Apart from Kempe’s goal and assist today, he was dragging his teammates (with a few exceptions) kicking and screaming against Latvia today. Very strong, fast and skilled but obviously shouldn’t be a center hopefully Sweden gives that line a second competent winger in Bratt and they could pose a threat to the best nations aswell.
 
They should suck until somewhere between 2022 and 2024. Any or, likely, all of Brown, Quick, and Kopitar will have to be gone before the franchise is in any way relevant again. And Doughty will have to age well. He's going to waste a lot of years at $11m.
 
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Had an idea for an out of the box trade.

Think Columbus will trade the rights to Panarin for Quick.

Helps show free agents they are still going to be competitive.

Does one of two things for us:

1: Frees up salary for us. We are all over drafting speed and skill. Panarin is only 27 and his contract would end at 35. Not the end of the world.

2: Frees up salary. We flip his rights for another pick.
 
funky said:
Had an idea for an out of the box trade.

Think Columbus will trade the rights to Panarin for Quick.

Helps show free agents they are still going to be competitive.

Does one of two things for us:

1: Frees up salary for us. We are all over drafting speed and skill. Panarin is only 27 and his contract would end at 35. Not the end of the world.

2: Frees up salary. We flip his rights for another pick.
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Nope.

I do see Columbus and Maybe Buffalo as possible spots for Quick tho.
 
I'm sure Panarin would like to not waste a bunch of years with the Kings. They have no defense other than Doughty and Martinez. At least Florida has youth up front, despite not having much of a defense either. Doughty should be the last 8 year contract the Kings give out for a long time anyway.

Who would give up a pick for Panarin's rights? There seems to be only a few places he'll go, and the Rangers are supposed to be rebuilding the right way. A couple extra days to talk to him likely won't do anything.

By all means, get Quick to Columbus before they find a better option.
 
The problem with trading Doughty is there has to be a lot of very cheap youth coming back. The issue being that a team adding an $11m player needs cheap youth to fill out their own roster. Plus, they haven't been able to replace Voynov in almost 5 full years. Not only do they still have that hole, but they just traded Muzzin too, and then Doughty on top of that.

Lombardi was beginning to build a defense around Jack Johnson and Thomas Hickey before he ever got his hands on Doughty. Took a swing on Muzzin, who even Nashville didn't sign when they had the chance. It could be 5+ years before they can build a real defense again, if they're lucky, because there's not a ton there. Anyone with any potential is about 20 years old, but none of them are likely game changers on a Doughty level.

If Doughty wanted out, he had that choice. He's most likely stuck here, wasting what productive years he has left. He's got the Cups though, so, there's no pressure as he gets older to win anything. Hopefully he can be a mentor to those 20 year old's, so that when Doughty is 33/34 years old, he's got some actual help.
 
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Kubalik signs with Hawks. I wonder what the real reasons are that he didn't want to sign with LA.
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If I had to guess, combination of no guarantees from the Kings that he'd be on the NHL roster (ie, the difference between making 900K vs 90K in the AHL) and Chicago have more open forward spots plus a couple familiar faces in Dominik Kahun and David Kampf (all three grew up playing together as '95 born Czechs).
 
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The problem with trading Doughty is there will be zero tickets sold. Part of Blake's job is to sell tickets not empty out Staples to appease fantasy hockey players who want to trade everybody.
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This is the part people just dont understand... It actually goes beyond Doughty, you cannot just trade any of Kopitar or Doughty.. it would have to be both to really help the franchise rebuild, but move them both and its a decade to rebuild and they money lost to the franchise would be staggering..
 
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This is the part people just dont understand... It actually goes beyond Doughty, you cannot just trade any of Kopitar or Doughty.. it would have to be both to really help the franchise rebuild, but move them both and its a decade to rebuild and they money lost to the franchise would be staggering..
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...and keeping them will only delay the inevitable. I can get behind a franchise that has a plan and buy tickets to games. I won't buy tickets to watch this mess. How many people in LA do you think actually care if Kopitar or Doughty are on the team?

My point is, even with Kopitar and Doughty on the roster, the attendance is going to suffer until the Kings start contending again.
 
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...and keeping them will only delay the inevitable. I can get behind a franchise that has a plan and buy tickets to games. I won't buy tickets to watch this mess. How many people in LA do you think actually care if Kopitar or Doughty are on the team?

My point is, even with Kopitar and Doughty on the roster, the attendance is going to suffer until the Kings start contending again.
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Probably enough.

They made their bed. Quick was handed a 10 year deal after the Conn Smythe. Brown was handed a contract as the captain after the Cup. Once Kopitar got his deal, Doughty was certainly going to get his if he wanted to stay. They can still try to sell tickets with those faces, despite the relative anonymity of those faces in LA, while they hover around terrible to not good likely for many seasons. Matt Roy will not sell tickets, no matter what. Kovalchuk is a big name too, who might sell a ticket or two for at least one more year.

What you can hope for, is these guys maybe getting tired playing in front of nobody in meaningless games. Assuming they care enough about that after the Cups. Then they all ask to be traded, and you sell them for pennies, while retaining whatever needs to be retained. At least Kopitar has the full NMC only through next season. After that, you can potentially trade him to 1 of 7 teams of his choosing. Take back a bad contract that goes no further than 2024, retain some %, get a pick, and keep working on the team that will be here in 24-25.
 
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KINGS17 said:
...and keeping them will only delay the inevitable. I can get behind a franchise that has a plan and buy tickets to games. I won't buy tickets to watch this mess. How many people in LA do you think actually care if Kopitar or Doughty are on the team?

My point is, even with Kopitar and Doughty on the roster, the attendance is going to suffer until the Kings start contending again.
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Ive had this conversation with you before, and as I told you then, I wouldnt be surprise to see them make the playoffs next season with the West and especially the Pacific having so much parity. My issue is what will Blake and the FO do if we are in playoff contention? because to me that indicates guys have had bounce back seasons, which gives us what we sorely need.. tradeable assets.. will they move those assets??
Defensively, I see Mikey Anderson(top 4) and even Kale Clague(3rd pairing) as players that will be on the team this season and if by any miracle we land Bowen Byram, then that speeds up the rebuild of a defense thats gone to shit.

As for the Kopitar/ Doughty on the team part.. LA will always care about star power and if teams dont have them they will suffer.. For various reasons that have been discussed before those two will likely retire as Kings(good or bad) so its up to Blake and the FO to draft, sign and trade well to speed up this retool/rebuild...
 
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