Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season

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Well we don't want Kopitar, period. I was talking about just Doughty. And obviously a 23 year old that has almost 50 goals and 100+ points rn isn't being traded. Let alone with 3 1st rounders added.
Then I guess you should go get another top 4 defensmen.Maybe you can convince Karlsson to come to Edmonton.Doughty will not come cheap and Kings should top out any assets for Doughty.Then there's another issue,why would Doughty want to wave his no trade to go to Edmonton?Like I said,Oilers won't give up what it would take in a trade for Doughty. Lucic contract wouldve to be included to help to make money work isnt something that would come cheap either and this trade would take place in the same division.A prospect and a first rounder wouldnt get a asset like Doughty.You get a assets like a Draisaitl who is young and can grow with the young coming in.
 
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Amadio is no longer waiver exempt next season, so he'll likely will be on the roster after he signs his new deal (RFA) , just like Brodzinski was scheduled to this season. And of all forwards on the Kings, team goals scored per 60 minutes of playing time at even strength when on the ice, the leader is Michael Amadio at 3.1. And it's not even close. Next up is Kopitar and Brown at 2.7. Amadio makes players around him better. He needs consistent linemates and improvement on defense and face-offs, but he should be playing everyday.

Amadio has been really good. I was highly critical of him - likening him to guys like Shore and Dowd - but I was wrong. He could be a good third- or fourth-line center. He’s shifty like Richards was. Doesn’t have the edge, though.

Hughes - Kopitar - Brown
JAD - Kupari - Vilardi
Wagner - Kempe - Grundstrom
Clifford - Amadio - Iafallo

Full youth, trade Carter, Toffoli, Kovalchuk, Lewis, Martinez, Phaneuf, and Forbort. Clean house. Trade Kopitar and Doughty if you can, too. Keep Brown and Clifford, give them the C and the A.
 
Until shown otherwise, nothing has changed my mind on it being a much more boring summer than what a lot of people seem to be thinking.

Iafallo-Kopitar-Brown
Kovalchuk-Carter-Toffoli
Grundstrom-Kempe-Wagner
Clifford-Amadio-Lewis

There's 12 forwards, with no moves necessary. 1 or 2 spots open. Brodzinski may look for greener pastures. Leipsic is up in the air, but he'll stick around if they want him. There's no reason to pencil Vilardi into any lineup. JAD and/or Kupari making the lineup in Oct is no lock. One just turned 19, and the other can easily use time in Ontario. They have to fill out a roster for Ontario too, and they have just 5 guys under contract that are on currently the Reign. 6 if you include Rempal, who I'm guessing they'll re-sign. Although I'm sure Sutter will sign another AHL contract, if he doesn't already have a contract with the Reign for next year. Don't see any reason they would qualify Scherbak. So that we don't see any more Moulson's hanging around for no reason, there's no downside to JAD and even Vilardi starting in Ontario. Luff is hanging around.

Toffoli, Lewis, Clifford, they're all UFA's next year. All of them make more sense as deadline trades. Nobody needs players like Lewis or Clifford in summer trades. Teams can pick up players like that in free agency. Toffoli's value isn't going to get lower, and if it could, how much further could it go? Hold onto him, hope he has a good 19-20, and he's gone by the deadline either way. Doughty was the last Cup contract.
 
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Until shown otherwise, nothing has changed my mind on it being a much more boring summer than what a lot of people seem to be thinking.

Iafallo-Kopitar-Brown
Kovalchuk-Carter-Toffoli
Grundstrom-Kempe-Wagner
Clifford-Amadio-Lewis

Would like to understand your rationale on the above...isn't that basically the lineup we've used in an abysmal season that has landed us in last place? How does that show the fan base that they are looking to improve, lol
 
Would like to understand your rationale on the above...isn't that basically the lineup we've used in an abysmal season that has landed us in last place? How does that show the fan base that they are looking to improve, lol
Well I think he's saying it takes 2 to tango and no one is going to help the Kings out and take our shitty players/contracts. Yeah they want/need to make moves but if no one is willing you're handcuffed or you're getting bent over a table.
 
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These things will have taken place in next 2 weeks:

1. Kings Win Lottery
2. Mikey Anderson signs
3. Kings sign College FA defenseman Jimmy Schuldt (or Nico Sturm)
4. WD has cleared out his office and forever gone. forever!!

Durzi and Phillips will still be in playoffs and will both sign soon as well.
 
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Would like to understand your rationale on the above...isn't that basically the lineup we've used in an abysmal season that has landed us in last place? How does that show the fan base that they are looking to improve, lol

If Blake goes into next season with Iafallo on the top line and Lewis and Clifford on the roster he deserves to be fired. This roster is in such bad shape Blake will have to be a damn magician to clean up the mess.
 
If Blake goes into next season with Iafallo on the top line and Lewis and Clifford on the roster he deserves to be fired. This roster is in such bad shape Blake will have to be a damn magician to clean up the mess.

That's what I'm hoping for but I don't think that will change. Would be looking at...

XXX--Kopitar--Brown
Grundstrom--Kempe--Kovy
Iafallo--Carter--Toffoli
Wagner--Amadio--Brodzinski
Luff

Let the kids challenge for spots. Hopefully be able to move Carter and maybe Toffoli which gives them two more spots to be filled by the prospects. I dont see how our #1 pick makes the team if it's not Hughes/Kakko.

On Defense, I have no clue what their plan will be. They dont have a ton of top end guys. Hopefully they sign Mikey Anderson after his season ends. But they will be missing some spots...

XXX-Doughty
Martinez--Walker
Forbort--LaDue
Roy

Maybe they move Martinez for youth. Must buy out Phanuef. Maybe Clague or Brickley can step up and make the team if Martinez is moved.

Goalies are a little bit easier. Move Quick and run with Petersen and Campbell.
 
Well I think he's saying it takes 2 to tango and no one is going to help the Kings out and take our ****ty players/contracts. Yeah they want/need to make moves but if no one is willing you're handcuffed or you're getting bent over a table.
The next CBA is going to get many teams out of ****ty contracts. At least that's my prediction.

For some reason the author of the linked article thinks the signing bonuses are going to reduce Bettman's leverage to next to nothing. I disagree with this opinion. Only a very small percentage of the players under contract are getting significant signing bonuses. The era of the guaranteed contract is coming to an end if the NHL keeps inching toward the NFL model. I hope it happens. The fans will get better hockey to watch. There is absolutely no reason Kings fans should have to endure watching Jeff Carter or Dion Phaneuff for even a single game more.

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-players-planning-lockout-signing-bonuses/

The CBA is set to expire on September 15, 2022. However, the terms of the current agreement would extend on a year to year basis from that date, unless the league or NHL Players Association (NHLPA) give written notice by May 18, 2022, that they intend to terminate the agreement. This date is crucial.

Of late, one key point of the CBA has become widely reported. Section 3.1 paragraph (b) of the CBA is the so-called opt-out clause that gives the league and the NHLPA the right to terminate the agreement before the start of the 2020-21 season.

Even more foreboding was the recent failed attempt to extend the current CBA. The league made an offer to allow players to participate in the Olympics in South Korea, in exchange for extending the current CBA by three years. The NHLPA rejected the offer due to a variety of concerns about the current deal, not the least of which is the mandated escrow payments by the players. This may seem trivial, it may also serve as the canary in the coal mine that points to trouble ahead.
 
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It’s funny, we traded Lubo to EDM in the last rebuild. It would be a loaded story line if Blake, with all his history as a player, ends up trading Drew Doughty.
 
We hosed Toronto with the Muzzin trade .

Grundstrom is at worst a 3rd liner who pots 20+ goals and plays a hard nosed game . I love the kid . Will be a fan favorite .

Durzi is going to be a special type of Top 4 dman who will thrive in the new NHL. He is made for it . Offense , Offense , Offense also skates well and makes smart decisions . He can be in the NHL in next 2 years and make an impact .

The 1st is a 1st , hopefully we draft someone good . I love it !
 
How do you guys feel about a lineup of

Kakko-Kopitar-Brown
Kovy-Kempe-Grundstrom
Iaffalo-Carter-Toffoli
Wagner-JAD-Luff
Clifford

Forbort-Doughty
Martinez-Roy
Clague-Walker
Phaneuf

Petersen
Campbell
 
How do you guys feel about a lineup of

Kakko-Kopitar-Brown
Kovy-Kempe-Grundstrom
Iaffalo-Carter-Toffoli
Wagner-JAD-Luff
Clifford

Forbort-Doughty
Martinez-Roy
Clague-Walker
Phaneuf

Petersen
Campbell

I don’t think Kovalchuk will be coming back. Who are we moving Quick for?
 
Would like to understand your rationale on the above...isn't that basically the lineup we've used in an abysmal season that has landed us in last place? How does that show the fan base that they are looking to improve, lol

Trades are difficult to make(look around the league), and not being in Blake's office, I tend toward conservative estimates on what can be done with the reality of a hard cap. Would anyone here trade for Carter between now and the draft? He's got the 3 years left, already 34, career worst season, who knows what the injury did to him, who knows if he retires. Would you do it at 100%? How much retention would you need? How much would the Kings retain for 3 years? What would you give up? A young asset with any potential whatsoever? An equal contract? Do the Kings want an equal contract? Would you add a pick/prospect to get rid of him? I go with, if I can't think of a trade that I would make for ____, I'm not going to assume that Blake can make another GM make the trade either.

Is there one player on this team that people want to see gone before next year that has any pros that outweigh their cons? Clifford is one of the few actually having a good individual season, but does anyone need him in October? He's a perfect 2020 deadline guy, but another team can pick up a Clifford type without giving up an asset in the summer.

If they end up with a top 2 pick, and one of those guys is ready to go next year, that will likely force a roster move somewhere. If Vilardi can skate, that can change things. If Kupari is ready, same thing. The younger you are, and the fewer years you have on your contract, the easier it is to trade you. The Rangers had that rebuild letter, and did nothing between the 2018 and 2019 deadline's toward the rebuild though. Their UFA's this year were all still there until Feb 23rd.

We'll see what happens, if Blake can do it, that'll be great, but I'm not banking on some huge transformation this summer. I'm thinking it'll be a slow process, where they chip off a guy here, then there, UFA's at the deadline, ride out some of the bigger contracts. A clean sweep of the roster would be great, but the cap doesn't lend itself to that. Not with the guaranteed contracts anyway. Unless you're a ruthless GM, with enough guts and backing of ownership to trade anyone and everyone a year too early, you're going to get stuck. Blake, sometimes through his own actions, sometimes having to deal with Lombardi's emotional moves, is stuck.
 
Until shown otherwise, nothing has changed my mind on it being a much more boring summer than what a lot of people seem to be thinking.

Iafallo-Kopitar-Brown
Kovalchuk-Carter-Toffoli
Grundstrom-Kempe-Wagner
Clifford-Amadio-Lewis

There's 12 forwards, with no moves necessary. 1 or 2 spots open. Brodzinski may look for greener pastures. Leipsic is up in the air, but he'll stick around if they want him. There's no reason to pencil Vilardi into any lineup. JAD and/or Kupari making the lineup in Oct is no lock. One just turned 19, and the other can easily use time in Ontario. They have to fill out a roster for Ontario too, and they have just 5 guys under contract that are on currently the Reign. 6 if you include Rempal, who I'm guessing they'll re-sign. Although I'm sure Sutter will sign another AHL contract, if he doesn't already have a contract with the Reign for next year. Don't see any reason they would qualify Scherbak. So that we don't see any more Moulson's hanging around for no reason, there's no downside to JAD and even Vilardi starting in Ontario. Luff is hanging around.

Toffoli, Lewis, Clifford, they're all UFA's next year. All of them make more sense as deadline trades. Nobody needs players like Lewis or Clifford in summer trades. Teams can pick up players like that in free agency. Toffoli's value isn't going to get lower, and if it could, how much further could it go? Hold onto him, hope he has a good 19-20, and he's gone by the deadline either way. Doughty was the last Cup contract.

Great post. The roster will look stale again unless the Kings make some MAJOR trades, waivers or buyouts.

I have a feeling either they give Kovy a shot with the new coach or he’s gone. If he’s out that opens up a spot for someone else like a lottery pick or JAD, Luff, etc.

Otherwise, not much room with all those one way deals.

FYI might be time to move on from Lewis - 2 goals in 40 games. Wagner essentially has taken his role as a speedy bottom 6 winger.
 
2019-20 POWERPLAY. MUST BE A NEW ANIMAL.
The current animal is sickly, anemic and 14 years old.

PP goals: Carter 5, Kovalchuk 4, Toffoli 3, Kopitar 0. Horribrutal.

Only Brown, with 9 and Doughty, with 7, have scored on the PP.
The Powerplay must be revamped next year. There is no movement and Kopitar on the
halfwall is like a statue. All teams know this and easy to defend - they know he will only pass to
the point, or try a cross ice pass...they know he will absolutely not skate to the goal and try
to shoot or force something. The ONLY way to correct this, is to move him off there
and put him on front of the goal, or he does not play on the pp. Period.

Kempe has not got a lot of PP time, but last night on the first PP, he was moving continually and
made some very good plays. This makes the defense move and may allow Kempe (or whoever, except Kopitar can't do this, he's too slow and methodical and set in his ways, thus his only place should be in front of the goal) to get an opening to skate in and shoot or make a pass and have a better chance to score.
Kempe and Grundstrom should take Carters and Toffoli's places. Kempe is one of the best on the Kings in zone entries. 8 goals between Carter and Toffoli on the PP all year, with the most PP minutes, outside of Kopi and Doughty is terrible. Kopi will actually score a few goals in front and if he floats back some, to the slot, he also scores from there. Moving him off the halfwall, teams will now have much more of a challenge, when it comes to the Kings PP.

ESG leaders on Kings: Kopitar 19, Iafallo 13, Kempe 12, Wagner 12, Brown 11. Think Kempe, Grundstrom and Wagner should be on unit #2. Put Wagner in front of the goal. Why not?
His 20.1% shooting % is #1 on the Kings. And they said "Wagner can't finish" . His hands have been better than advertised. He's strong and has good size and may be good in front of the goal on the PP.
The key on unit #1, is moving Kopi off the halfwall and removing 73 and 77. off it. As long as Kopi is on the halfwall, the PP will be bottom 20%. Guaranteed. it's like having a 4.5 to 4.0 advantage and not a real 5 on 4 advantage....he does almost nothing and easy to defend against.
 
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How do you guys feel about a lineup of

Kakko-Kopitar-Brown
Kovy-Kempe-Grundstrom
Iaffalo-Carter-Toffoli
Wagner-JAD-Luff
Clifford

Forbort-Doughty
Martinez-Roy
Clague-Walker
Phaneuf

Petersen
Campbell

Carter and Toffoli need to go to make room.

Clifford won’t be an extra if he’s on the team.

JAD and Kupari need to have good camps to make the team.

Amadio may take a center spot.

Assuming Lewis is not coming back in this scenario.
 
Carter and Toffoli need to go to make room.

Clifford won’t be an extra if he’s on the team.

JAD and Kupari need to have good camps to make the team.

Amadio may take a center spot.

Assuming Lewis is not coming back in this scenario.

True. Lewis, Carter and Tofofli are all 50% or less of what they were last Cup, 2014. Time for all of them to go...and Phaneuf too.
Martinez is still decent and with so much youth coming on, good to keep him.

Would try to trade Forbort too. I seriously believe if they sign Anderson, he could take Forbort's place now. Understandably may
need a season in Ontario and that's fine. He's so poised and capable. he looked as good or better than any of the Bouchard's, etc in the WJC. And Quinn Hughes was no better. Maybe at skating in the O zone. Mikey was the go to defenseman in all situations. I think he's stronger and more capable defensively than Quinn Hughes. Playing college hockey 2 years can be better than playing 2 years of major junior...older players, larger ice surface, etc. (Quinn played 2 yrs at Mich and helped him step in now) Mikey is 2" and 20 lbs larger than Hughes. I actually hope Mikey makes the team. I don't think anything phases him. NCAA champion team as a Freshman, Team Captain of Team USA..some were saying.."who is Mikey Anderson?" that day he was named captain...NO ONE was questioning it, after they saw him in the tournament. Not a one.

Back on topic - hope to see : Lewis, Carter, Toffoli, Phanuef, Forbort and yes, probably Quick moved on to make room for the new. It's time.
 
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True. Lewis, Carter and Tofofli are all 50% or less of what they were last Cup, 2014. Time for all of them to go...and Phaneuf too.
Martinez is still decent and with so much youth coming on, good to keep him.

Would try to trade Forbort too. I seriously believe if they sign Anderson, he could take Forbort's place now. Understandably may
need a season in Ontario and that's fine. He's so poised and capable. he looked as good or better than any of the Bouchard's, etc
in the WJC. And Quinn Hughes was no better. Maybe at skating in the O zone. Mikey was the go to defenseman in all situations.
I think he's stronger and more capable defensively than Quinn Hughes. Playing college hockey 2 years can be better than playing 2
years of major junior...older players, larger ice surface, etc. I actually hope Mikey makes the team. I don't think anything
phases him. NCAA champion team as a Freshman, Team Captain of Team USA..some were saying.."who is Mikey Anderson?"
that day he was named captain...NO ONE was questioning it, after they saw him in the tournament. Not a one.

Back on topic - hope to see : Lewis, Carter, Toffoli, Phanuef, Forbort and yes, probably Quick moved on
to make room for the new. It's time.
Anderson looks legit. I was really impressed with Hughes. Anderson won’t be as flashy could be more steady. Kings need to get him signed.

I like Durzi too.

A little bit of hope for the future.
 
I would prefer Anderson spend at the very least one full season in Ontario. No need to rush the kid.

This team ain’t doing jack shit the next 2 years so let him get some solid ice time and play in various situations cutting his teeth with the Reign.

Partner him up with someone like Clague and let them develop together.
 
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