Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season Part 2

[SettlementRichie10]

And I listed three examples of guys who went on to have full recoveries.

Can you come up with some who didn't?

I'm not saying it's a good thing and he may well be hampered especially in the way Bandit points out we didn't draft him "just" to play, I'm just saying writing him off already is even more foolhardy when there are at least several examples of the opposite.

They've managed his injury for some time now. Jake Muzzin was out of hockey for over a year and a half. And that was more than a decade ago, would imagine they're better at back stuff by now.

Edit: and keep in mind my response was to such ridiculous statements as "you've seen the last of Vilardi" and "we're more likely to draft #1 overall than ever see Vilardi." I know we're bound to pessimism/cynicism around here, but good grief, write an emo song. It's like when people are presented with facts they double down on emotion.

I think people, including me, are buried under decades of justified cynicism with situations like these turning out good for the Kings.

The issue with Vilardi for me personally is moreso a sort of compounding anxiety:

- He dropped partly due to injury concerns to begin with.
- We know very little about the nature of his back issues. Is it a chronic, degenerative spinal issue? Is it just a series of injuries? Does he just need to build strength? None of us know, so it’s easy to think the worst.
- He misses virtually all of last season, and has missed multiple development camps in a row.

Players with Vilardi’s skillset almost never drop out of the top ten. Kopitar himself was probably the last player with that level of skill to drop that far in the draft. In Kopitar’s case, it was due to a bizarre fear of the unknown surrounding his nationality. In Vilardi’s case, it seemed to be a (thus far) valid concern surrounding his injuries, with general skating issues a secondary concern.

Until he shows up to a single development camp, can you really blame some of us for predicting doom and gloom here?

Lastly, I will say a healthy, full potential Vilardi would be an absolute boon for this franchise. Vilardi-Turcotte down the middle would be amazing, and vault us into significant contention if both Kupari and Kaliyev develop into top six wings as well.

 

[Bandit]

And I listed three examples of guys who went on to have full recoveries.

Can you come up with some who didn't?

That's the trick, you don't hear about the sperm that don't reach the egg.

I'm not saying it's a good thing and he may well be hampered especially in the way Bandit points out we didn't draft him "just" to play, I'm just saying writing him off already is even more foolhardy when there are at least several examples of the opposite.

They've managed his injury for some time now. Jake Muzzin was out of hockey for over a year and a half. And that was more than a decade ago, would imagine they're better at back stuff by now.

Edit: and keep in mind my response was to such ridiculous statements as "you've seen the last of Vilardi" and "we're more likely to draft #1 overall than ever see Vilardi." I know we're bound to pessimism/cynicism around here, but good grief, write an emo song. It's like when people are presented with facts they double down on emotion.

I did, but then I spilled my mascara all over it which is why I'm stuck here with you guys talking about hockey instead of on a beach with pasty white skin wearing SPF 300 raking in the millions.

 

[riznat]

That's the trick, you don't hear about the sperm that don't reach the egg.

Speak for yourself, I hear about all of my sperm.

 

[The Tikkanen]

I think people, including me, are buried under decades of justified cynicism with situations like these turning out good for the Kings.

The issue with Vilardi for me personally is moreso a sort of compounding anxiety:

- He dropped partly due to injury concerns to begin with.
- We know very little about the nature of his back issues. Is it a chronic, degenerative spinal issue? Is it just a series of injuries? Does he just need to build strength? None of us know, so it’s easy to think the worst.
- He misses virtually all of last season, and has missed multiple development camps in a row.

Players with Vilardi’s skillset almost never drop out of the top ten. Kopitar himself was probably the last player with that level of skill to drop that far in the draft. In Kopitar’s case, it was due to a bizarre fear of the unknown surrounding his nationality. In Vilardi’s case, it seemed to be a (thus far) valid concern surrounding his injuries, with general skating issues a secondary concern.

Until he shows up to a single development camp, can you really blame some of us for predicting doom and gloom here?

Lastly, I will say a healthy, full potential Vilardi would be an absolute boon for this franchise. Vilardi-Turcotte down the middle would be amazing, and vault us into significant contention if both Kupari and Kaliyev develop into top six wings as well.

And does nobody think it's odd that Bob McKenzie said he had a procedure yet nothing from the Kings? I don't remember a player in any sport where a beat writer is divulging more injury info than the team. This is Patiots-esque. Why the secrecy?

 

[redcard]

And does nobody think it's odd that Bob McKenzie said he had a procedure yet nothing from the Kings? I don't remember a player in any sport where a beat writer is divulging more injury info than the team. This is Patiots-esque. Why the secrecy?

They're using Robot parts.

 

[kovacro]

They're using Robot parts.

Vilardi still doesn’t look right.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I think people, including me, are buried under decades of justified cynicism with situations like these turning out good for the Kings.

The issue with Vilardi for me personally is moreso a sort of compounding anxiety:

- He dropped partly due to injury concerns to begin with.
- We know very little about the nature of his back issues. Is it a chronic, degenerative spinal issue? Is it just a series of injuries? Does he just need to build strength? None of us know, so it’s easy to think the worst.
- He misses virtually all of last season, and has missed multiple development camps in a row.

Players with Vilardi’s skillset almost never drop out of the top ten. Kopitar himself was probably the last player with that level of skill to drop that far in the draft. In Kopitar’s case, it was due to a bizarre fear of the unknown surrounding his nationality. In Vilardi’s case, it seemed to be a (thus far) valid concern surrounding his injuries, with general skating issues a secondary concern.

Until he shows up to a single development camp, can you really blame some of us for predicting doom and gloom here?

Lastly, I will say a healthy, full potential Vilardi would be an absolute boon for this franchise. Vilardi-Turcotte down the middle would be amazing, and vault us into significant contention if both Kupari and Kaliyev develop into top six wings as well.

Rantanen dropped to 10, Barzal to...13? Just going off the top of my head, talents fall every draft.

Some degree of cynicism is absolutely founded on our history and fair in this situation.

Saying his career is over is not.

That's the trick, you don't hear about the sperm that don't reach the egg.

I did, but then I spilled my mascara all over it which is why I'm stuck here with you guys talking about hockey instead of on a beach with pasty white skin wearing SPF 300 raking in the millions.

You would most certainly hear of a top-15 pick not cutting it due to injury. Maybe not some random depth pick, but that's not who we're talking about here.

I would pay good money for a Vilardi emo throwback, you blew it

 

[redcard]

That's the trick, you don't hear about the sperm that don't reach the egg.

My mom had a lot of VHS tapes that lead me to disagree with that statement.

 

[Telos]

The best way to think of Vilardi is to not. If he turns into something it is a bonus at this point.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Rantanen dropped to 10, Barzal to...13? Just going off the top of my head, talents fall every draft.

Some degree of cynicism is absolutely founded on our history and fair in this situation.

Saying his career is over is not.






You would most certainly hear of a top-15 pick not cutting it due to injury. Maybe not some random depth pick, but that's not who we're talking about here.

I would pay good money for a Vilardi emo throwback, you blew it

Rantenen and Barzal are 1B/2A talents, IMO, and appropriately drafted.

 

[Legionnaire]

My mom had a lot of VHS tapes that lead me to disagree with that statement.

Is your Mom's name Debbie?

 

[The Tikkanen]

They're using Robot parts.

I heard Hollywood is writing a 6 Billion Dollar Man movie. We can rebuild him, we have the technology.

 

[kovacro]

My mom had a lot of VHS tapes that lead me to disagree with that statement.

 

[kovacro]

I heard Hollywood is writing a 6 Billion Dollar Man movie. We can rebuild him, we have the technology.

Maybe Vilardi will be controlled by Skynet.

 

[kovacro]

Yeesh.

 

[kilowatt]

Yeesh.

1 year 1 mil, fine. multiple years, multiple millions... yikes

 

[kovacro]

1 year 1 mil, fine. multiple years, multiple millions... yikes

We have enough fringe guys like MacD, LaDue, Walker, Roy and now Ryan that can fill the bottom pair/no. 7 role.

Let them get the chance to sink or swim to see if they have a permanent place on the roster going forward.

Rather not use space on the roster with Andy McD. Might as well have just kept Pylon Dion.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I imagine the key word there would be "were" among teams. Ryan has the 1 way deal, Martinez, Forbort, MacDermid. They even had 4 RHD in the lineup for some games last year, which is basically unheard of on any team in the league ever, and there might be games where they do it this year too. Maybe MacDonald wanted more than the 1 year or $725k Ryan took to stay in the league, and the Kings said well we're not spending money this summer, so goodbye.

 

[Sol]

Blake is so perplexing to me. He does some really clever cheeky plays and then you find out he was after MacDonald or that he hired Willie D.

Dudes so hit and miss.

 

[Mats26]

Blake is so perplexing to me. He does some really clever cheeky plays and then you find out he was after MacDonald or that he hired Willie D.

Dudes so hit and miss.

The last 3 years we drafted really well. I give him props for allowing the scouting team to select better talent over just grit.
But I think Blake is still learning on the job. The fact that Yannetti has to explain to him at the draft that getting more draft picks allows u to get multiple players or the players you want to get. Seriously, does a GM not know that?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Blake needs to master the art of dumpster diving.

 

[Telos]

I'll always remember Willsie for the Stamkos goal i.e. the goal that cemented the Kings to get the 2nd overall pick over instead of the first. Obviously, most were disappointed over it then, but hindsight looks pretty good now.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Blake needs to master the art of dumpster diving.

Can't believe they forgot his middle name, 'effin.'

 

[Sol]

Brian Willsie and Scott Parse. Both wore 21 iirc, and both sucked.

 

[Steve Zissou]

I'll always remember Willsie for the Stamkos goal