Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season Part 2

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So does that answer why Blake should do it? Why would a free agent want to do it, at least one that isn't just looking for one more year of a paycheck.

It's been pointed out here numerous times but these defensive prospects aren't kids: LaDue/Walker/Roy/MacD/Brickley are all 24 or older (LaDue will be 27 on opening night!). This is most likely the time to find out what--if anything--there is for these guys as NHL players. Clague is the only real prospect and "kid" that has a shot at being on the big club next year.

8/24/27/Three of the six dudes mentioned above

Any veteran defenseman they can sign is a short-term stop gap that will do nothing in the sense of helping this team contend since they won't be this season or next. Just play one of the guys you already have instead in the event that there might actually be something there as opposed to being the last team to pay Schenn or Engelland NHL money.

The only reason I would sign some meh vet is if they were tough but that won't be necessary if MacD is cruising around out there.

the question was why would someone want to sign in LA. Because they get a chance to play.
 
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Blake said he doesn’t want to be near the cap if the Kings are retooling or whatever we call this so I don’t expect many other moves.

This is a mistake. LA should be a cap team taking other teams bad 1 year deals with sweeteners. For example Clarkson would be perfect. Vegas needs to get below the cap, and dealing Clarkson even though he is LTIR would help. Also Clarkson would not take up a roster spot in LA and would hopefully come with a pick or prospect.
 

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This is a mistake. LA should be a cap team taking other teams bad 1 year deals with sweeteners. For example Clarkson would be perfect. Vegas needs to get below the cap, and dealing Clarkson even though he is LTIR would help. Also Clarkson would not take up a roster spot in LA and would hopefully come with a pick or prospect.

Assuming there's no other team willing to take his contract. Have to figure Vegas isn't in the market of help the Kings in any way, unless completely desperate. I'm sure they would rather send his contract to Ottawa if possible. Especially if insurance pays for it.

The money thing might not even be Blake's call. Although, if the insurance would cover it, then it costs almost nothing. I forget what the insurance rules are. Clarkson's deal might not be able to be covered by insurance on the Kings. I know there's a limited amount of contracts you can cover, but how many, and if you can actively select which ones, I don't know.
 

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Assuming there's no other team willing to take his contract. Have to figure Vegas isn't in the market of help the Kings in any way, unless completely desperate. I'm sure they would rather send his contract to Ottawa if possible. Especially if insurance pays for it.

The money thing might not even be Blake's call. Although, if the insurance would cover it, then it costs almost nothing. I forget what the insurance rules are. Clarkson's deal might not be able to be covered by insurance on the Kings. I know there's a limited amount of contracts you can cover, but how many, and if you can actively select which ones, I don't know.

I would have thought Toronto would not want to help a rising conference opponent in Carolina but they sold Marleau and a first there. Vegas should take the best deal they can regardless of location. By the time LA is competitive Vegas may not be.
 

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I would have thought Toronto would not want to help a rising conference opponent in Carolina but they sold Marleau and a first there. Vegas should take the best deal they can regardless of location. By the time LA is competitive Vegas may not be.

Marleau's a different story than Clarkson. Maybe Carolina was the only team willing to take him and live with the buyout. Maybe they actually want to convince him to play there, who knows.

With Clarkson, it's just a paper transaction, and maybe the Kings end up wanting too sweet of an additional asset. Should they take whatever, or would you squeeze Vegas for something of value? Is a 4th round pick worth a phone call? Would some other team that needs to reach the floor take less?
 

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the question was why would someone want to sign in LA. Because they get a chance to play.

But what kind of player is just looking for a chance to play somewhere? The answer would be "Not a good one". So what's the point? They already have five guys from age 24-27 that will most likely fall in the "not a good one" camp when all is said and done but let's see if they can be better than that.
 
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But what kind of player is just looking for a chance to play somewhere? The answer would be "Not a good one". So what's the point? They already have five guys from age 24-27 that will most likely fall in the "not a good one" camp when all is said and done but let's see if they can be better than that.

Only thing I could say is a vet who could shelter the young Dman. Someone like Stone in Calgary or an UFA equivalent. The draw from LA's POV would be to showcase said player, shelter young d, and trade at the deadline (even if it is for a 5th round pick we saw how those picks can be used to move up the draft).

T here are only so many NHL spots around the league, and there will be NHL caliber D looking for work on the outside looking in. LA should try and take advatage of this if they can. If not, no big deal. D will look bad either way.
 

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Only thing I could say is a vet who could shelter the young Dman. Someone like Stone in Calgary or an UFA equivalent. The draw from LA's POV would be to showcase said player, shelter young d, and trade at the deadline (even if it is for a 5th round pick we saw how those picks can be used to move up the draft).

T here are only so many NHL spots around the league, and there will be NHL caliber D looking for work on the outside looking in. LA should try and take advatage of this if they can. If not, no big deal. D will look bad either way.

I totally don't have a problem with the plan in theory, I just don't think these guys need any sheltering except for Clague. Now, injuries to 8/27/24 could change that but I still don't want a guy who has no future with the team possibly blocking spots for other guys who might.
 

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This is a mistake. LA should be a cap team taking other teams bad 1 year deals with sweeteners. For example Clarkson would be perfect. Vegas needs to get below the cap, and dealing Clarkson even though he is LTIR would help. Also Clarkson would not take up a roster spot in LA and would hopefully come with a pick or prospect.
If he were thinking that way his statement about not wanting to go near the cap is the first step in negotiating a good deal.
 

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I totally don't have a problem with the plan in theory, I just don't think these guys need any sheltering except for Clague. Now, injuries to 8/27/24 could change that but I still don't want a guy who has no future with the team possibly blocking spots for other guys who might.

I get that POV too. Just kinda playing devil's advocate here. I just wonder what is better for a player, to be on a losing NHL squad or a competitive AHL one.
 

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I get that POV too. Just kinda playing devil's advocate here. I just wonder what is better for a player, to be on a losing NHL squad or a competitive AHL one.

Agree, but I don't care if Roy/Walker/LaDue/MacD are on a losing NHL team since they need NHL reps regardless. I care about Clague but he is supposed to be an asset that helps them get away from losing and should play with a vet--preferably Doughty--when he comes up.

Anderson, Durzi, Phillips et al can play on what we hope is a competitive AHL squad.
 

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There has to be something else going on with that guy, right? He seems too good for having multiple teams letting him go for nothing. Not saying he was spectacular or anything but he played harder and with more compete than most of the team and had decent skill to boot.
 

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There has to be something else going on with that guy, right? He seems too good for having multiple teams letting him go for nothing. Not saying he was spectacular or anything but he played harder and with more compete than most of the team and had decent skill to boot.


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There has to be something else going on with that guy, right? He seems too good for having multiple teams letting him go for nothing. Not saying he was spectacular or anything but he played harder and with more compete than most of the team and had decent skill to boot.



But yeah, what's the deal with this guy? There's definitely more there than meets the eye even leading up to the Kings picking him up, but it's gotta be more than 'too much money' at this point.

But as the president of the Leipsic fan club everyone shut up
 

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