Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season Part 2

[Raccoon Jesus]

This makes me unreasonably happy

 

[Kingspiracy]

I think we are 1 year too soon to bring in a vet D to help the young guys out. Than again I would not hate Edler on a short deal, I do not like the comparison to Mitchell and I loved Willie.

I'm wary of giftwrapping D positions to our prospects, we want them to outplay established players. Edler seems like a decent option because he's a stable dman and appears to have a good head on his shoulders. He unfortunately doesnt have anywhere near the sandpaper to his game that Mitchell did though. His injury history will put off a lot of teams, but for us it could help us blend in the youth.

Not at this point, he's probably looking for a 5M year deal for 2 years etc, to me, not worth it....I think you make a decision on Forbort.....let's say you jettison him,

You have

Doughty - XXXX
Martinez - XXXX
UFA vet like the ones I mentioned and - XXXX

Then let Walker, Roy, McDermid, Brickley, Clague, fight it out in camp,

If you keep Forbort, you still let those guys fight out, less slots, or you use Forbort as that Vet now, on the 3rd pairing.

That d core looks pretty grim, it doesnt make for a great transition experience for the youth. I know a lot of fans wouldnt be upset if we are dreadful again next year, but it would be nice to supply a good platform for our vets to look halfway decent and retrieve some of their value if we move them.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Can anyone tell me who needs waivers and who doesn't need them on our young defense man and forwards please?

 

[BigKing]

I'm wary of giftwrapping D positions to our prospects, we want them to outplay established players. Edler seems like a decent option because he's a stable dman and appears to have a good head on his shoulders. He unfortunately doesnt have anywhere near the sandpaper to his game that Mitchell did though. His injury history will put off a lot of teams, but for us it could help us blend in the youth.




That d core looks pretty grim, it doesnt make for a great transition experience for the youth. I know a lot of fans wouldnt be upset if we are dreadful again next year, but it would be nice to supply a good platform for our vets to look halfway decent and retrieve some of their value if we move them.

Would be very surprised if Forbort was traded prior to the season starting. I expect 8/27/24 and then three of the young guys with a decent chance Blake signs a cheap 1-2 year deal on a garbage vet that can vacillate between the ice and the press box.

While this team needs top-flight prospects at all positions, taking a look at this defense is another reason why I like Byram so much at #5. While the forward prospects outside of Vilardi might not be world-beaters, it feels like there is more depth there with Grundstrom/JAD/Kupari/Thomas/Luff/Wagner v. Clague/Anderson/Durzi/Brickley.

 

[kingsboy11]

Can anyone tell me who needs waivers and who doesn't need them on our young defense man and forwards please?

Doesn't need waivers:
Blake Lizotte
Carl Grundstrom
Austin Wagner
Sean Walker
Matt Roy
Cal Petersen
Dan Brickley
Matt Luff

Needs Waivers:
Adrian Kempe
Alex Iafallo
Mike Amadio
Alex Lintuniemi
Paul Ladue
Kurtis MacDermid
Jonny Brodzinski

 

[Cook24]

Rangers just got Trouba for pretty cheap IMO. Always sucks to see another team fleece someone for some solid talent...

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Doesn't need waivers:
Blake Lizotte
Carl Grundstrom
Austin Wagner
Sean Walker
Matt Roy
Cal Petersen
Dan Brickley
Matt Luff

Needs Waivers:
Adrian Kempe
Alex Iafallo
Mike Amadio
Alex Lintuniemi
Paul Ladue
Kurtis MacDermid
Jonny Brodzinski

thank you very much

 

[kingsholygrail]

Rangers just got Trouba for pretty cheap IMO. Always sucks to see another team fleece someone for some solid talent...

Isn't he a rental?

 

[BigKing]

Blake saying he'd like to sign Leipsic.

Totally fine with this as a 2-year max. Hopefully the rest of the team tries this year so his effort isn't so noticeable. If he does come back, I hope to see more of the pest game out of him.

*Edit*

New CPU at work doesn't allow me to see tweets. RJ already posted it.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The Kings have $14M in cap space. None of the players you mentioned are getting a big raise, with the outside exception of Kempe, and I would say 3-4 years at $3M a season would be in the ballpark for him. The Kings have plenty of cap space to take on Marlow for a season, or at least up until the trade deadline. Where it gets tricky is which players can be sent down without having to clear waivers.

I am fine with Marleau blocking a kid's roster spot next season up until the trade deadline.

You're living in a fantasy world if you don't think Kempe, Iafallo, Amadio and Petersen don't get raises, let's assume AVERAGE is 1.5 million, so 4 players, that's 6 million right there....divy it up however you want, between the 4, that leaves 8 million for Leipsic, Roy, Rempal, Brickley, assume 3 million between the 4 of them? that's 5 million.....tell me again how Marleau fits without giving up a contract?

 

[Reaper45]

Pionk should've signed with L.A. when he had the chance. Enjoy the Peg Pionk!

 

[KingsOfCali25]

It will most likely be some combination of this:

Forbort-Doughty
Martinez-LaDue
MacD-Walker
Roy

I wouldn't call him a surprise pick (my dark horse pick) but Mikey Anderson should win a spot on the blue line this offseason. Wouldn't even surprise me if he got put with Doughty. Not saying that should be his spot, but just the best player to pair him with for his game.

Anderson--Doughty
Martinez--Walker
Forbort--LaDue
Roy, McDermid

 

[BigKing]

I wouldn't call him a surprise pick (my dark horse pick) but Mikey Anderson should win a spot on the blue line this offseason. Wouldn't even surprise me if he got put with Doughty. Not saying that should be his spot, but just the best player to pair him with for his game.

Anderson--Doughty
Martinez--Walker
Forbort--LaDue
Roy, McDermid

He'd have to completely blow the doors off of training camp. I much rather prefer he get his first taste of pro hockey in Ontario and play with Clague, Durzi etc. I like the idea of the Kings young guys bonding down in Ontario and bringing some chemistry to LA once they are really ready.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

He'd have to completely blow the doors off of training camp. I much rather prefer he get his first taste of pro hockey in Ontario and play with Clague, Durzi etc. I like the idea of the Kings young guys bonding down in Ontario and bringing some chemistry to LA once they are really ready.

While he probably could use some time in the AHL, so the NHL curve doesn't kill his game (ala Clifford & Iafallo). The kid is ready for the NHL. He is the best Dman prospect we have and our 3rd/4th best Dman in the whole organization right now.

 

[BigKing]

While he probably could use some time in the AHL, so the NHL curve doesn't kill his game (ala Clifford & Iafallo). The kid is ready for the NHL. He is the best Dman prospect we have and our 3rd/4th best Dman in the whole organization right now.

While that may be the case, it won't hurt his development to start the year in Ontario. Not being subject to waivers can play into that as well.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I would like Blake to explain why Toronto needed to take a crap contract back in return in this deal.

I hope this is the case.

Personally, I’m worried about it being more related to ownership, now being sold on “no playoffs in the short term while we fix this,” has demanded salaries be mitigated. The timing, or even existence of Phaneuf’s buyout may support this, dependant on your opinion of the actual quality of blueline help we have in the pipeline, and the actual value in opening up roster spots for these prospects.

I would imagine that's probably what it is. There's probably no other way to get rid of the old guy contracts, because nobody wants old guys with big contracts.

This makes me unreasonably happy

It's how far down the team is. It's Giuliano all over again. I guess Leipsic is a bit better than that, but that a guy that tried a little bit was such a bright spot is so sad.

I wouldn't call him a surprise pick (my dark horse pick) but Mikey Anderson should win a spot on the blue line this offseason. Wouldn't even surprise me if he got put with Doughty. Not saying that should be his spot, but just the best player to pair him with for his game.

Anderson--Doughty
Martinez--Walker
Forbort--LaDue
Roy, McDermid

He just turned 20 less than a month ago. There's no reason to force it, probably no matter what he does in camp. They have more than enough never-will-be defenseman to throw out there to take a shift for what should be a bad team. Anderson doesn't need to be part of that. He can be part of what might be another bad team in Ontario. Martinez, Forbort, MacDermid on the left side is fine.

 

[lexlavender]

This makes me unreasonably happy

Leipsic is the kind of guy you want in an org, full of hustle and heart. I hope we retain him and he thrives and reaches his potential.

 

[lumbergh]

I wouldn't call him a surprise pick (my dark horse pick) but Mikey Anderson should win a spot on the blue line this offseason. Wouldn't even surprise me if he got put with Doughty. Not saying that should be his spot, but just the best player to pair him with for his game.

Anderson--Doughty
Martinez--Walker
Forbort--LaDue
Roy, McDermid

Anyone that can bump Forbort to #6/7 is welcome in my book.

Yikes on that second pairing, though. I hope the Kings goaltending is better than last year!

 

[KingsOfCali25]

Anyone that can bump Forbort to #6/7 is welcome in my book.

Yikes on that second pairing, though. I hope the Kings goaltending is better than last year!

That's the best 2nd pairing we have. Our RHD prospects are very thin. Ideally I'd like to go after Ryan Murray (CBJ) as a buy low candidate or a Colin Miller (Vegas) or Kevin Miller (Boston) to help the 2nd pairing.

Murray--Martinez or Martinez--C./K. Miller

Edit: Columbus doesn't have a lot of space for Murray coming off injury, Vegas needs to shed Cap to sign guys and Boston doesn't have much space for Miller either

 

[johnjm22]

I am fine with Marleau blocking a kid's roster spot next season up until the trade deadline.

It depends on what we'd be getting though. For a 1st round pick? Absolutely. For a late 2nd or late 3rd I don't know if it's worth it. Development is important.

I'd rather give someone like Brodzinski/Amadio/Prokhorkin real consistent ice-time in a scoring role and see what happens. The chance of one of those guys turning out is probably better than hitting on a 2nd rounder.

Now if they move some vets like Carter/Kovalchuck/Lewis/Toffoli then by all means acquire Marleau.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Re: anderson the only thing that scares me about him being in the nhl is that he hasn't played a full pro schedule before, College is very different.

Would be very surprised if Forbort was traded prior to the season starting. I expect 8/27/24 and then three of the young guys with a decent chance Blake signs a cheap 1-2 year deal on a garbage vet that can vacillate between the ice and the press box.

While this team needs top-flight prospects at all positions, taking a look at this defense is another reason why I like Byram so much at #5. While the forward prospects outside of Vilardi might not be world-beaters, it feels like there is more depth there with Grundstrom/JAD/Kupari/Thomas/Luff/Wagner v. Clague/Anderson/Durzi/Brickley.

agree with all of the above but the boldfaced is so true it made me laugh that it's just such an accepted practice. The yearly Roman Polak signing, for example.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

It's how far down the team is. It's Giuliano all over again. I guess Leipsic is a bit better than that, but that a guy that tried a little bit was such a bright spot is so sad.

.

I think there's a grain of truth to that, but he looks like a guy who has a little more to give, the kind of guy who needed a bad team to take a chance on him and give him slightly greater opportunity. He did score at a 33 point pace with us, adding some creativity to the bottom six is nice.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

It depends on what we'd be getting though. For a 1st round pick? Absolutely. For a late 2nd or late 3rd I don't know if it's worth it. Development is important.

I'd rather give someone like Brodzinski/Amadio/Prokhorkin real consistent ice-time in a scoring role and see what happens. The chance of one of those guys turning out is probably better than hitting on a 2nd rounder.

Now if they move some vets like Carter/Kovalchuck/Lewis/Toffoli then by all means acquire Marleau.

I agree i wouldn't do it for a 2nd alone. I think if the add Dmytro Timashov to the deal i would be all for it . We can put him in the ahl till we find a contender to ship marleau to and then bring him up to get his feet wet

 

[KINGS17]

It depends on what we'd be getting though. For a 1st round pick? Absolutely. For a late 2nd or late 3rd I don't know if it's worth it. Development is important.

I'd rather give someone like Brodzinski/Amadio/Prokhorkin real consistent ice-time in a scoring role and see what happens. The chance of one of those guys turning out is probably better than hitting on a 2nd rounder.

Now if they move some vets like Carter/Kovalchuck/Lewis/Toffoli then by all means acquire Marleau.

I would hope for a 2nd round pick, or an equivalent prospect from Toronto. Then at the trade deadline flip Marleau to a playoff team for another 2nd round pick. That's not bad for taking on a contract for five months.

 

[BigKing]

The angle of AEG wanting to decrease salary makes sense after Blake has pissed away dollars on Stevens and Kovalchuk so far while they are still paying for DL mistakes on top of it.

If you're going to suck, let's try and minimize this payroll as much as possible.