GWT: PL Matchweek 1

[bleedblue1223]

Damn, that was a goal.

 

[AB13]

Again, I'm not sure how Mendy will fare.
But AB has no idea if Mendy is better anyway, so he shouldn't comment.

That is true but I just think someone has to stand up for Kepa. He is a great goalie who had a bad run of form. Mendy is not proven at all and definately not highly valued by most clubs so I have a hard time thinking he is better.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Ruben you have to do so much better there

 

[Peen]

That is true but I just think someone has to stand up for Kepa. He is a great goalie who had a bad run of form

bro it wasn't a few bad games it was a whole season and he was like literally the worst in the top five

a bad defense in terms of talent and system can contribute and it definitely did but like he was awful

 

[Evilo]

Yeah Milner missed a PK for Liverpool. I found a few references to it :
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/footba...-misses-penalty-in-liverpool-draw_297624.html
Salah seems to have missed one from the page I watch (but they could be wrong).

Fabinho missed one over his whole career, 22 out of 23 for 96%. In a pressure game at Dortmund. Saying he missed one in preseason is weird.

 

[Blender]

That is true but I just think someone has to stand up for Kepa. He is a great goalie who had a bad run of form

He was a below average shot stopper at Bilbao who has regressed to a terrible one. Where are you getting that he has ever been great? His main skill and the reason for the demand for him was always his ball playing abilities, not his ability to make saves.

Chelsea want a clear upgrade for stopping shots and collecting crosses, and Mendy is a very clear upgrade there and even played the ball better than Kepa did last year.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Lallana injured in his first game at his new club... I feel bad for him but hardly surprising.

 

[AB13]

He was a below average shot stopper at Bilbao who has regressed to a terrible one. Where are you getting that he has ever been great? His main skill and the reason for the demand for him was always his ball playing abilities, not his ability to make saves.

Chelsea want a clear upgrade for stopping shots and collecting crosses, and Mendy is a very clear upgrade there and even played the ball better than Kepa did last year.

Kepa was one of the best goalies in the league in 2018-19. He has insane reflexes and great potential if he can fix his reccuring lapses of concentration. Mendy just looks very unspectacular in every way. An average Ligue 1 starter who makes some ridiculous errors

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Yeah Milner missed a PK for Liverpool. I found a few references to it :
Result: James Milner misses penalty as Liverpool draw with Southampton - Sports Mole
Salah seems to have missed one from the page I watch (but they could be wrong).

Fabinho missed one over his whole career, 22 out of 23 for 96%. In a pressure game at Dortmund. Saying he missed one in preseason is weird.

Well hard to justify replacing somebody like Milner or Salah who have not missed in ages.

 

[Peen]

Werner almost scored that wow

 

[Evilo]

Well hard to replace somebody like Milner or Salah who have not missed in ages.

Since he hasn't missed in longer, I have no idea...
Salah missed two penalties for Egypt in the ACN.

You said Salah didn't miss a pen for Pool?
‘Everyone can miss a penalty’ – Wijnaldum defends Salah | Goal.com

So the only guy to not have missed a pen for Liverpool is Fabinho.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Since he hasn't missed in longer, I have no idea...
Salah missed two penalties for Egypt in the ACN.

You said Salah didn't miss a pen for Pool?
‘Everyone can miss a penalty’ – Wijnaldum defends Salah | Goal.com

So the only guy to not have missed a pen for Liverpool is Fabinho.

This is a weird hill to die on

 

[Blender]

Kepa was one of the best goalies in the league in 2018-19. He has insane reflexes and great potential if he can fix his reccuring lapses of concentration. Mendy just looks very unspectacular in every way. An average Ligue 1 starter who makes some ridiculous errors

This is delusional, he didn't even crack the top 10.

Here he is from 18/19. He was in the 51st percentile in goals stopped above average and 64th percentile for cross stopping out of goalies in the top 5 leagues. That's still awful and below average.

 

[AB13]

Brighton the better team in the first. Pretty clearly.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Strange that Jorginho started if the plan wasn't to play possession today.

 

[Evilo]

This is a weird hill to die on

Haha, I don't care really, but Jeffrey said both didn't miss and Fabinho did, while in fact both failed for Pool while Fabinho failed in a preseason friendly.
That's a bit weird.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Strange that Jorginho started if the plan wasn't to play possession today.

We don't really have anyone else to play in the pivot with Kovacic suspended. I think it's a wise decision by Frank to play the pivot to be safer, and play on the break due to lack of chemistry and timing among the attackers. We technically have the skill to breakdown defenses, but the timing won't be there.

 

[AB13]

This is delusional, he didn't even crack the top 10.

Here he is from 18/19. He was in the 51st percentile in goals stopped above average and 64th percentile for cross stopping out of goalies in the top 5 leagues. That's still awful and below average.

Stats are a bad way to judge goalies since the quality of shots they face and the systems they play makes it impossible to compare. I concede he was not as good as I think, but anyone could have seen he was still a good player. Watch football, don’t base everything on reading football

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

We don't really have anyone else to play in the pivot with Kovacic suspended.

I expected a midfield 3 with Mount and RLC a bit deeper than they are right now, and CHO in the lineup.

 

[Peen]

Strange that Jorginho started if the plan wasn't to play possession today.

Also switched to a 4-3-3 with RLC playing striker and werner out wide

 

[Blender]

Stats are a bad way to judge goalies since the quality of shots they face and the systems they play makes it impossible to compare. I concede he was not as good as I think, but anyone could have seen he was still a good player. Watch football, don’t base everything on reading football

I watched every single Chelsea game, I doubt you have. On what grounds are you claiming Kepa was one of the best goalies in the league last year? He certainly was not, he was average at best statistically and by the eye test.

 

[King Makar19]

Bad pen to give.

Chelsea been avg all around.

 

[AB13]

Imagine if Chelsea had kept elite assist chart leading winger Willian on the right instead of buying some lanky German who didn’t create a chance this half

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Imagine if Chelsea had kept elite assist chart leading winger Willian on the right instead of buying some lanky German who didn’t create a chance this half

Imagine judging a player in 45 mins

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Lamptey is the best player on the field atm

I thought he was great tbh