Value of: PK Subban at the deadline with double retention.

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I think we can all agree that PK is getting traded but he's making 9 million dollars, I think he's getting double retention to bring him down to 2.25 million.

At 2.25 million I think PK will have some value, I'm not sure how but I believe he can help some teams.

I'm intrigued by what she might get.

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[Sniped90]

oilers give you kassian and then a 3rd to the other team for retention

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

oilers give you kassian and then a 3rd to the other team for retention

That's awful for NJ

 

[Sniped90]

That's awful for NJ

lol no its not they are in need of a player with grit and they have hamilton and severson on rd so pk is expendable. not only that majority of nj fans cant wait to get rid of pk

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

lol no its not they are in need of a player with grit and they have hamilton and severson on rd so pk is expendable. not only that majority of nj fans cant wait to get rid of pk

That's awful NJ gets no picks, no prospects, they take on salary for 2 years after this it's just awful

 

[Sniped90]

That's awful NJ gets no picks, no prospects, they take on salary for 2 years after this it's just awful

What are you talkimg about pk have negative trade value even at 4.5m so your assessment of what hes worth is wrong. Theres no way he gets that. Sure if toronto wants him they can over pay as per usual but other teams wont for pk

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

What are you talkimg about pk have negative trade value even at 4.5m so your assessment of what hes worth is wrong. Theres no way he gets that. Sure if toronto wants him they can over pay as per usual but other teams wont for pk

I have him at 2.25 million with double retention also Kassian has no value either

 

[TGWL]

Not sure there's any value in Subban at 2.25 million. Surely you can find somebody else to be just as effective on the ice.

 

[Smitty426]

I have him at 2.25 million with double retention also Kassian has no value either

A vet rhd who has been to a finals has more value than ZK and a third. It wont be the same return for sure but look at Ristolainen last year. RR was going to be resigned by philly, and PK is most likely a rental so there is difference tgere too. The dbl retention makes it much more interesting. A prospect a rhd and a 2nd rd pick is probably the ceiling, and fitz has done well. I expect (hope) he is moved just before or early in tdl. He has played well lately.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

A vet rhd who has been to a finals has more value than ZK and a third. It wont be the same return for sure but look at Ristolainen last year. RR was going to be resigned by philly, and PK is most likely a rental so there is difference tgere too. The dbl retention makes it much more interesting. A prospect a rhd and a 2nd rd pick is probably the ceiling, and fitz has done well. I expect (hope) he is moved just before or early in tdl. He has played well lately.

I agree with you that what I'm saying his proposal was awful

 

[Dooman]

You know double 50% retention isn't a thing, right?

50% is the max retention on a contract. Two teams can do 25, or 40/10, but the total can not exceed 50%.

 

[Groo]

I think we can all agree that PK is getting traded but he's making 9 million dollars, I think he's getting double retention to bring him down to 2.25 million.

At 2.25 million I think PK will have some value, I'm not sure how but I believe he can help some teams.

I'm intrigued by what she might get.

She?
Not much he's been done for some time now

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

She?
Not much he's been done for some time now

Somebody will take him

 

[shortfuze]

You know double 50% retention isn't a thing, right?

50% is the max retention on a contract. Two teams can do 25, or 40/10, but the total can not exceed 50%.

Pretty sure 2 teams can both do 50 percent. It’s happened with a few players recently. 1 off the top of my head was Foligno last year with Toronto and San Jose. Columbus ate half and San Jose ate half. Unless I’m not understanding what you’re saying.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

You know double 50% retention isn't a thing, right?

50% is the max retention on a contract. Two teams can do 25, or 40/10, but the total can not exceed 50%.

Max rention is actually 75% If you get double rention that's how Foligno ended up in Toronto

 

[TGWL]

You know double 50% retention isn't a thing, right?

50% is the max retention on a contract. Two teams can do 25, or 40/10, but the total can not exceed 50%.

You said that with such confidence...

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Pretty sure 2 teams can both do 50 percent. It’s happened with a few players recently. 1 off the top of my head was Foligno last year with Toronto and San Jose. Columbus ate half and San Jose ate half. Unless I’m not understanding what you’re saying.

They can

It happened with Foligno, it happened with Savard

It's happened multiple times

 

[Smitty426]

They can

It happened with Foligno, it happened with Savard

It's happened multiple times

Maple Leafs trade for Foligno; Blue Jackets get picks; Sharks involved

Maple Leafs receive: Nick Foligno (at 25-percent of his salary) and Stefan Noesen.
Blue Jackets receive: Maple Leafs’ 2021 first-round pick and 2022 fourth-rounder. Blue Jackets retain 50-percent of Nick Foligno’s salary (according to reports, including that of Cap Friendly).
Sharks receive: Maple Leafs’ 2021 fourth-rounder for absorbing another portion of Nick Foligno’s salary in the trade.

Savard trade breaks down as follows:
Columbus receives: 2021 first-round pick (from Tampa Bay), 2022 third-round pick (from Tampa Bay)
Detroit receives: 2021 fourth-round pick (from Tampa Bay)
Tampa Bay receives: David Savard (from Columbus), Brian Lashoff (from Detroit)
Here is how the three teams got to that point:
Columbus initially traded Savard to the Red Wings for Brian Lashoff and retained 50% of Savard’s remaining salary.
The Red Wings then sent Savard to Tampa Bay for a fourth-round pick and retained 50 % of his remaining salary from the original move with Columbus.
Tampa Bay then sent the two draft picks to Columbus for Lashoff.
All of that maneuvering means Tampa Bay is getting Savard at just 25% of his salary cap hit for the remainder of the season. Given how close they are to the salary cap, that is very important.

Devs have 3- 4th rounders this upcoming year, their own, Isles from Palmieri trade, and Edmonton's from Kulikov trade. Its like Fitz planned on this scenario!

Forgot about Savard getting a 1st!

 

[EquivalentStay]

You know double 50% retention isn't a thing, right?

50% is the max retention on a contract. Two teams can do 25, or 40/10, but the total can not exceed 50%.

Buddy, when you say something as a fact, make sure you're not COMPLETELY WRONG, it makes you look like such an arse

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

At this point I can see two thirds, a third to NJ and a third to a team to eat 25% happening. I'd be surprised if it even happened though, seems like too much to give for Subban's recent on ice play. I'd be happy if NJ did something like the Vatanen for Kuokkanen swap, basically NJ lands an older cost controlled tweener talent and gives him a chance to make their team.

 

[Team Cozens]

I think we can all agree that PK is getting traded but he's making 9 million dollars, I think he's getting double retention to bring him down to 2.25 million.

At 2.25 million I think PK will have some value, I'm not sure how but I believe he can help some teams.

I'm intrigued by what she might get.

Make sense for the Sabres who need a RHD and a opportunity for PK to play with Malcolm.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Make sense for the Sabres who need a RHD and a opportunity for PK to play with Malcolm.

It makes no sense for Buffalo they are not a buyer and likely won't be for another 5 years there are just to many holes in that roster

 

[Djp]

I think we can all agree that PK is getting traded but he's making 9 million dollars, I think he's getting double retention to bring him down to 2.25 million.

At 2.25 million I think PK will have some value, I'm not sure how but I believe he can help some teams.

I'm intrigued by what she might get.

youthinksome team will retain without getting something fir thst?

devils aren’t going to get anything for him

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

youthinksome team will retain without getting something fir thst?

devils aren’t going to get anything for him

They won't get a ton but they will get something

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

At this point I can see two thirds, a third to NJ and a third to a team to eat 25% happening. I'd be surprised if it even happened though, seems like too much to give for Subban's recent on ice play. I'd be happy if NJ did something like the Vatanen for Kuokkanen swap, basically NJ lands an older cost controlled tweener talent and gives him a chance to make their team.

I know he's not what he once was but 2 3rds seems low