Pittsburgh Penguins Prospects Thread

[HandshakeLine]

You'd think I'd have gotten tired of being proven wrong on Vegas, but I say revisit this in a year or two, because I'm curious what they'll look like once the adrenaline/grudge factor/nobody taking them seriously wears off.

That's a great point, but you'd have to believe that people DO take them a bit seriously now. They're contending for the President's trophy, for pete's sake!

 

[KIRK]

That's a great point, but you'd have to believe that people DO take them a bit seriously now. They're contending for the President's trophy, for pete's sake!

One thing GMGM got right . . . 4 good 2nd lines, as Braden Holtby, I think, described it, with a ton of speed and great (regular season) goaltending. That can disguise a lot.

As for a few years from now, Vegas is sitting on so many picks and prospects and cap space that they could trade for EK and McDonaugh and STILL be in better shape than most teams with the picks, prospects, and cap space left.

Vegas is the team that I'd expect to go hard after EK.

 

[SEALBound]

One thing GMGM got right . . . 4 good 2nd lines, as Braden Holtby, I think, described it, with a ton of speed and great (regular season) goaltending. That can disguise a lot.

As for a few years from now, Vegas is sitting on so many picks and prospects and cap space that they could trade for EK and McDonaugh and STILL be in better shape than most teams with the picks, prospects, and cap space left.

Vegas is the team that I'd expect to go hard after EK.

Logically, that stands up. The only thing I don't know is their ownership group's commitment to that kind of money for a single player. I mean, they have deep pockets obviously being that they were able to pay the expansion fee but their current team that is winning is doing so on what is basically peanuts ($67mil). A lot of that money will be going away next year when a lot of their picks contracts expire. They'll infuse with some good young talent too that they'll have stocked up.

With that, Karlsson himself isn't without some risk. After that ankle injury, though still a great player, is not back to 100% of what he was. So you would have to expect some decline. Then again, he's only 27 and could be really good until he's 34/35 so...you get a franchise player for 6-7 years to help in nearly every facet. Just something that has to be balanced when you're talking 10.5-11mil a year for 7-8 years.

 

[KIRK]

Logically, that stands up. The only thing I don't know is their ownership group's commitment to that kind of money for a single player. I mean, they have deep pockets obviously being that they were able to pay the expansion fee but their current team that is winning is doing so on what is basically peanuts ($67mil). A lot of that money will be going away next year when a lot of their picks contracts expire. They'll infuse with some good young talent too that they'll have stocked up.

With that, Karlsson himself isn't without some risk. After that ankle injury, though still a great player, is not back to 100% of what he was. So you would have to expect some decline. Then again, he's only 27 and could be really good until he's 34/35 so...you get a franchise player for 6-7 years to help in nearly every facet. Just something that has to be balanced when you're talking 10.5-11mil a year for 7-8 years.

Money isn't an issue.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Sam Lafferty with a hat trick in a 4 point performance (3+1). It's too bad his team is ass.

 

[Peat]

That's a great point, but you'd have to believe that people DO take them a bit seriously now. They're contending for the President's trophy, for pete's sake!

I'm sure they do, but Vegas have built up that confidence and momentum now. Off-seasons tend to act as a soft reset button on that stuff.

Play-offs will be fun. Can't say I'd be surprised if they went far and deep, can't say I'd be surprised if they turned out to be very mortal put against a team with more star quality going hard for it for the whole series.


I will now shed a single tear for the fact that next I update the prospects, there will be no Gustavsson. Farewell sweet prince - we hardly knew ye, but your outstanding JWC made our lives so much easier regardless. I hope you are traded away from that tire fire someday fairly soon.

I will console myself with the thought that Bellerive had a 1g+2a night.

 

[rmartin65]

In light of the recent trade, it looks like the Penguins' draft situation for the next 3 years is (unless I missed something)

2018

2 PIT
3 OTT
5 DET
5 PIT
6 PIT
7 PIT

2019

1 PIT
2 PIT
4 MIN or 4 PIT (worse pick)
5 PIT
7 PIT

2020

1 PIT
3 PIT
4 PIT
5 PIT
6 PIT
7 PIT

 

[HandshakeLine]

Sam Lafferty with a hat trick in a 4 point performance (3+1). It's too bad his team is ass.

That's officially a 10-ass performance, as calculated by Bob Errey, Ph.D. Chair of Applied Mathematics.

 

[Liquid Gel]

Sam Lafferty with a hat trick in a 4 point performance (3+1). It's too bad his team is ass.

That’s dude screeching voice is hard to listen to. It hurts the ears

 

[Shaffer]

In light of the recent trade, it looks like the Penguins' draft situation for the next 3 years is (unless I missed something)

2018

2 PIT
3 OTT
5 DET
5 PIT
6 PIT
7 PIT

2019

1 PIT
2 PIT
4 MIN or 4 PIT (worse pick)
5 PIT
6 PIT
7 PIT

2020

1 PIT
3 PIT
4 PIT
5 PIT
6 PIT
7 PIT

We don’t have a 2019 6th. It went in the Archibald, Maguire, 6th for Leighton, 4th trade.

 

[rmartin65]

We don’t have a 2019 6th. It went in the Archibald, Maguire, 6th for Leighton, 4th trade.

You are right. I'll fix my post, thanks!

 

[chethejet]

I think the key is Brassard and a possible extension after next year. Horny will be an issue and clearing some cap space will help. But if Horny is 6/6, he is gone. But a 5/5 is doable cap wise and term. Pens need to restack the farm and with NCAA guys, projects and draft picks is that enough? Who knows, but the over arching question is finding a generational center in say 5 years.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Need to start signing top college dmen prospects

 

[Malkinstheman]

Need to start signing top college dmen prospects

Yeah the College FA singing period is coming in a few weeks. Would be great to acquire some of the top centers/Defencemen.

 

[wej20]

Need to start signing top college dmen prospects

Daniel Brickley

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Daniel Brickley

Yeah I hear he's shaping up to be the big fish this year.

Anybody watch him play? Supposed to be a big two-way guy.

 

[cygnus47]

I don't think Vegas is going to compete with the likes of Nashville or Winnipeg. They play a great system but they have a big honking weakness on their back end. Their game relies on turning over the puck in the neutral zone and having the forwards disrupt the break ins. All it takes is for a line to have a good cycle and you can bully them around the net. We showed how fragile they can be defensively, and I think that it will look more like that in the playoffs than it has all season.

 

[Shaffer]

For anyone interested: Brickley Leads Class of NCAA Undrafted Free Agents

Kiefer Sherwood(RW/C) is someone I would like to push for, as well as Daniel Brickley(LHD).

 

[Shaffer]

Tiffels with two goals for Wheeling today:

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Of all the German prospects the Pens have, Tiffels excites me the most.

 

[Asuna]

Of all the German prospects the Pens have, Tiffels excites me the most.

how many german prospects do we have?

 

[Shaffer]

Of all the German prospects the Pens have, Tiffels excites me the most.

He excites me, but he's running out of time.

 

[Jacob]

Unfortunately the big fish college UFAs will go to teams that’ll promise them an immediate look in the NHL this season which we can’t do.

Any junior FAs worth looking at? Overagers?

 

[Shaffer]

Unfortunately the big fish college UFAs will go to teams that’ll promise them an immediate look in the NHL this season which we can’t do.

Any junior FAs worth looking at? Overagers?

2018 NHL Draft: Top Overage Players at World Junior

 

[Brandinho]

You'd think I'd have gotten tired of being proven wrong on Vegas, but I say revisit this in a year or two, because I'm curious what they'll look like once the adrenaline/grudge factor/nobody taking them seriously wears off.

Just look at Leicester City. Prem champions to relegation fodder in one summer.