Post-Game Talk: Pittsburgh Penguins at New York Rangers - October 17, 2017

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I say we Fire Gorton for being so short sighted he didn't realize the glue that kept this team together the last few years is gone.
Girardi-Step- Moore. Pea brain!

Solid first post.

Actually, it was terrible. Got em. Got em good you guys.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

That’s also an old way of thinking. Rewarding for past performance with little regard for the future. It leads to overpaid players like Lundqvist and others who are not worth their contracts.

What's the new way given the system that exists in the NHL?

 

[NYR Viper]

On sportsclubstats, Rangers were 31 out of 31 (last) in percentage to make the playoffs.

That's disgusting.

 

[nevesis]

Do you understand contracts, lengths of contracts, and why someone receives a given contract at a certain previous point in time taking performance at that specific time and previous resume into account?

This is far too complicated for him to understand. Go easy on him. Start with basic arithmetic.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Please, the Rangers make me nauseous enough.

Sad!

 

[will1066]

Because reasons.

Because Tuesdays.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

AV reminds me of the restaurant manager from Curb Your Enthusiasm this past Sunday.

 

[Crease]

It's like he lifted that language from the recent Lyft commercials.

There's a certain art to the vanilla post game presser.

 

[Machinehead]

Screw corsi and expected goals!

Also,some website says we're gonna miss the playoffs because we're 1-5-1 lol much insight.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

What's the new way given the system that exists in the NHL?

Most teams are now being more prospective and handing out contracts buying more years at a younger age for key players. It’s smart. The Habs are going to run into the same problem with Price’s contract.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

This is far too complicated for him to understand. Go easy on him. Start with basic arithmetic.

You feel the need to fanboy some more? You know that Hank doesn’t know who you are, right?

 

[Abooch68]

Yea doesn’t mean anything that we’re “last” but this team is going to have to go on a run or else the season will be over in 3 weeks.

 

[JT Kreider]

Do you understand contracts, lengths of contracts, and why someone receives a given contract at a certain previous point in time taking performance at that specific time and previous resume into account?

Investing in how your young players are going to perform as opposed to past peperformance is the new way to go. Or else you're going to end up with train wreck contracts like Eriksson, Girardi, Clarkson, Ladd, Seabrook and pretty much every other big UFA signing that has proven to be an epic failure.

 

[Hire Sather]

Hank isn't done and won't be the reason this team doesn't win, but he's simply not worth $8.5 million. No goalie is. I'm not sure how this isn't the 100% agreed upon view of that situation.

Can't fault the team for giving him the deal. Can't let the franchise player walk. I was fine with it, but people at the time said he took a discount. I didn't agree with that. We paid a pretty penny.

Not too much to ask for him to not allow that Kessel goal 40 seconds in and punch us in the gut. Not too much to ask for him to not allow a goal from behind the net to tie the game. That one was more bad luck but f*** man.

 

[NYR Viper]

Most teams are now being more prospective and handing out contracts buying more years at a younger age for key players. It’s smart. The Habs are going to run into the same problem with Price’s contract.

Between Price and Weber that team is going to have a couple of major anchors in 3-5 years

 

[Machinehead]

Yea doesn’t mean anything that we’re “last” but this team is going to have to go on a run or else the season will be over in 3 weeks.

We play like garbage literally every October (usually even worse than this) but suddenly it's a problem because we're not shooting 17% this time.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Between Price and Weber that team is going to have a couple of major anchors in 3-5 years

Yep. They have a tiny, narrow window right now. Then BOAT ANCHORS.

 

[Crease]

I, for one, welcome our new lottery pick overlords.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Hank isn't done and won't be the reason this team doesn't win, but he's simply not worth $8.5 million. No goalie is. I'm not sure how this isn't the 100% agreed upon view of that situation.

Can't fault the team for giving him the deal. Can't let the franchise player walk. I was fine with it, but people at the time said he took a discount. I didn't agree with that. We paid a pretty penny.

By people saying he took a discount I think you really only mean his fanboys. I don’t recall any non-biased Rangers fan thinking the guy took a discount at 8.5M.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Sigh. Still too many unforced errors and not enough communication between players. They’ll turn it around like usual, but damn tonight was rough.

 

[nevesis]

Most teams are now being more prospective and handing out contracts buying more years at a younger age for key players. It’s smart. The Habs are going to run into the same problem with Price’s contract.

The alternative is losing said player to another team. Did Pittsburgh want to lose Crosby? Did Montreal want to lose Price?

You don't give years to players before they've proven themselves, that would be more foolish, and agents representing players who know they have serious talent don't allow them to get locked up in long term deals worth very little.

This is a business first and foremost.

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

That’s also an old way of thinking. Rewarding for past performance with little regard for the future. It leads to overpaid players like Lundqvist and others who are not worth their contracts.

That leads to overpaying players like Girardi (who wasn't very good to begin with, but for some reason amassed a metric f***ton of praise/goodwill for..whatever it was he did), Lundqvist earned every one and every cent of each of his contracts. Just so happens that his play has been declining the last couple years. I don't think anyone could have foreseen him looking as non-Lundqvist-esque as he has these last 2 years after seeing what he did the previous 10. Staal, we got seriously unlucky with his contract/situation.

 

[NYR Viper]

Yea doesn’t mean anything that we’re “last” but this team is going to have to go on a run or else the season will be over in 3 weeks.

I think people don't realize how much a very poor start can affect a season

 

[Mordeth]

I knew it!

Looks like a heavy cough to me.

 

[Synergy27]

See how ****ty the team looks when he does that now? I don't want to get into tin foil hat territory , but this franchise might have not been so great if he weren't elite for a long time.

What's tin-foily about this? I think that's a commonly held opinion, if not an indisputable truth.