Petey Pucks
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please man that crap isn't happening...this team is still winless in playoff games when they are leading.....there is no way in hell they are winning 3 straight....probably no way in hell they win 2
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please man that crap isn't happening...this team is still winless in playoff games when they are leading.....there is no way in hell they are winning 3 straight....probably no way in hell they win 2
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15 shots on goal.
15 god damn shots on goal. In a god damn game they HAD to win?
Not to mention the abysmal defense and horrible effort by more than half of our forwards.
God damnit, I'm so angry.
Mainly because Pittsburgh is SO beatable, but we are beating ourselves. Playing right into their hands and under performing. UGH!
15 god damn shots on goal. In a god damn game they HAD to win?
Not to mention the abysmal defense and horrible effort by more than half of our forwards.
God damnit, I'm so angry.
Mainly because Pittsburgh is SO beatable, but we are beating ourselves. Playing right into their hands and under performing. UGH!
Petey Pucks
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this team has been poorly run for years....wait until you guys have been fans for 30 plus years and they still continue being poorly run....your optimism will fade and fade an fade...winning 3 straight please
this team has 2 cups in 74 years.....and has only been too the finals 3 times between 1940 and 1994...says everything you need to know about this organization
this team has 2 cups in 74 years.....and has only been too the finals 3 times between 1940 and 1994...says everything you need to know about this organization
TheTakedown
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I completely agree with you... I understand Sather does not want to do an entire rebuild, so what he should be doing is going for a 3-5 year re-tooling... I mean an actual retooling, like being a seller at the deadline.
work with what in house, get some 2nd rounders for this and next year, and re-draft. hopefully the window opens up again in 3 years or so.
Not that this team isn't cup caliber, but there are some parts that need to be upgrade.
a) I'm all for keeping the entire bottom 6, that includes the following players:
Pouliot-Brassad-Zuccarello
Boyle-Moore-Carcillo
Quite frankly, that bottom 6 has been a WONDERFUL spark of energy in every single game
b) The following top-6 forwards need to stay:
Chris Kreider
Derek Stepan
c) the following Defensemen need to stay:
Ryan McDonough
Dan Girardi
Marc Staal
Justin Falk/Kevin Klein
Raphael Diaz
d) The following need to be bought out:
Brad Richards
e) The following should be traded for either offensive upgrades/higher draft picks
Carl Hagelin
John Moore
Rick Nash
Anton Stralman (rights to player)
MSL
Dorsett
Justin Falk/Kevin Klein
JT Miller (I don't see him peaking higher than a crappy 2C, solid 3C)
f) The following roles would need to be filled:
#1 Centerman
#1 RW
#2 Centerman
#2 LW
#2 RW
#3 LD
many of these players that we have are solid players, unfortunately they are just not good enough for what we're doing here with AV...
For the future:
Stepan can be a #1C in the next 2-3 years, but we need a solid 2C supporting him, because right now he needs to be stop gapped... Signing Paul Stastny is NOT the answer, because he'll be on the decline in 3-5 years when this team is ready for another serious run..
The entire 2nd line needs to be rebuilt if that pattern above is followed... By using those players in the trade list, you could realistically get some upgrades for some of those needs that would need to be filled, BUT the other side of it we are going to have to go bargain basement hunting for the remaining voids in FA.
Lastly, the window NEEDS to open up in 3 years, because Hank only has 3-5 more left in him. we need to be seriously contending for a cup by 2017, thru 2020
you end up with this roster. There are still holes, but you get the idea of how much cap space and what should stick with this current group of guys. I know turnover sucks, but in this case, the turnover is necessary due to either age, bad playoff game (on the player specifically), or high cap hits.
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.750m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) /
Benoit Pouliot ($1.600m) /
Derick Brassard ($3.700m) / Mats Zuccarello ($3.700m)
Brian Boyle ($2.000m) / Dominic Moore ($1.500m) / Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($5.500m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Raphael Diaz ($1.225m)
Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
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(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $45,512,500; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (15-man roster): $24,487,500
Hate to rain on your parade but Nash has a NMC through 2015 and a NTC through 2018. Plus, what team takes on his $7.8m salary?
You do not see it as the Penguins having more players who more often complete the play correctly. I see it as just that.
Good players make good plays more often.
The Rangers have some good players, but there are quite a few that are shoppable.
ArPanet
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Nash in the postgame interview, it looks like he could be in better shape. Losing weight can mean increased stamina. Some more resistance. He certainly could be more resistant and he'd look better if there isn't stripes of fat running down his face.
Stepan has always looked underconditioned to me as well. Its notjust on the ice where you gotta want it more.
Apparently Brad after the game criticized the fans for booing. That's rich(ie) coming from a guy who skipped summer training before a season in which he was set to make like $8,000,000.
Booing Nash may expedite his waving the ntc. He looked pretty stressed out in the postgame. Hey, trying harder to be in better shape, maybe it's a good idea if you don't want to feel scared of being on home ice.
Stepan has always looked underconditioned to me as well. Its notjust on the ice where you gotta want it more.
Apparently Brad after the game criticized the fans for booing. That's rich(ie) coming from a guy who skipped summer training before a season in which he was set to make like $8,000,000.
Booing Nash may expedite his waving the ntc. He looked pretty stressed out in the postgame. Hey, trying harder to be in better shape, maybe it's a good idea if you don't want to feel scared of being on home ice.
Agreed.
I am sick of the mediocrity. Year after year it is the same thing. Never bad enough to draft high, and never good enough to be a true contender. Sather has no direction. Always throwing **** on the wall to see if it sticks.
The only way we are getting a cup with this core group is if a string of miracles happens. We just aren't good enough
Petey Pucks
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nash is pathetic and should be embarrassed with that salary and his performance....never thought it was a good idea in how we acquired him
ArPanet
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Nash will waive and a rising cap makes his numbers easier to take on. Rangers can also eat salary.
And then there's the example of Luc Robataille.
Petey Pucks
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always thought he looked like a dough boy...never thought others thinked the same
stepan has bad genes and is prematurely balding at 23 years old
...maybe like Samson his play strength suffers when his hair is lost ....now i'm just ranting because pissed offand brad should reevaluate the word criticize and apply it to himself instead of the fans
TheTakedown
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that was my answer...
Nash is clearly a 5M player, so the rangers would have to eat about 2.5M in salary... Quite frankly, though it is lost cap space, the bottom 6 actually functioning can make up for this 3M...
It's an odd way to "do the math", but it's accurate.
They are never going to hit the market. Players like that RARELY hit the market.
Lundqvist was never going to hit the market either.
How often does a truly ELITE player hit the UFA market?
Kovalchuk hitting it was a HUGE deal.
The players that hit the market are usually B level stars (Brad Richards) not the A level stars (Malkin, Crosby, etc.).
Toews and Kane would be A level stars given their success and track record.
Jarkko Immonen
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Rangers will win game five and lose game six, just to mess with us all.
To me, this series has been a mix of bad luck and tired legs. That's not an excuse, because they are also not deserving of winning. Luckily, they have a chance to right that ship by simply winning one game on the road. We will see.
To me, this series has been a mix of bad luck and tired legs. That's not an excuse, because they are also not deserving of winning. Luckily, they have a chance to right that ship by simply winning one game on the road. We will see.
I'm not a fan of making excuses, but this team has looked gassed and 5 steps behind almost the entire series, which is odd because I think they are the faster team normally. Still can't comprehend why after back-to-backs in games 6 and 7 last round, the Rangers played their 4th game tonight a day before LA-Anaheim each play their 3rd game, but this schedule is garbage. 5 playoff games with two days rest in between is not equitable or acceptable. Only team with back-to-back games in both rounds.
I honestly don't mind if the team loses, and I don't get too rah rah if they win. I don't play on the team and have my own team. I do think, however, that the league owes it to the guys who work hard all season, and to the millions of fans of the sport, to put together a fair schedule. With how close teams are in talent these days, having to also play against a schedule like this is not acceptable.
I'm right now going to call and cancel my Center Ice auto-renew for next season. Between stuff like this, to losing an entire season, to fans losing tons of games because lockouts occur where the league moans of huge contracts and then hands out the exact same huge contracts... Bettman and company pretty much ran the NHL into the ground for me. I cannot put my money into this product anymore.
I honestly don't mind if the team loses, and I don't get too rah rah if they win. I don't play on the team and have my own team. I do think, however, that the league owes it to the guys who work hard all season, and to the millions of fans of the sport, to put together a fair schedule. With how close teams are in talent these days, having to also play against a schedule like this is not acceptable.
I'm right now going to call and cancel my Center Ice auto-renew for next season. Between stuff like this, to losing an entire season, to fans losing tons of games because lockouts occur where the league moans of huge contracts and then hands out the exact same huge contracts... Bettman and company pretty much ran the NHL into the ground for me. I cannot put my money into this product anymore.
at least we're not the cubs.
You mean, the San Jose Sharks.
They're basically the Rangers of the West. Choking when it comes to playoffs.You mean, the San Jose Sharks.
I think it's fair to say that the Sharks are/were a better team than the Rangers. The teams out west are pretty amazing. The Sharks choked, I agree. The Rangers are punching their weight. There is no reason whatsoever to expect the Rangers to beat the Penguins. They were supposed to beat the Flyers, and they did.
I've always been positive about the Rangers, but this series shows me clearly how things are.
park rangers
Optimist
The Rangers are the Cubs of the NHL. We are both two of the worst franchises in sports.at least we're not the cubs.
Rich in history, not in winning.
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
I'm not giving up yet. I won't be that fan that mails it in a game early only to be surprised by a 3 game comeback.
However, it doesn't look good. There's a lot to do. At least Henrik and McDonagh seemed like they cared. I noticed something in Henrik's presser. He was asked a question and part of his response was along these lines (not a direct quote): "We need to get puck luck. I believe you earn your bounces by how hard you work. Lately we haven't been getting bounces."
To me, it seemed like he was indirectly saying the team isn't working hard enough out there.
All these offseason roster moves are premature. Come Friday night, if they lose, or Sunday night, or Tuesday night, we can start dissecting the offseason. I refuse to give up hope that they can turn it around. You Yankees fan saw what Boston did to you in 04. LA did it this year down 3-0. Giants fans know what type of miracles can happen. This **** isn't over. Like I said, I'm not too optimistic about our chances, but I won't mail in the season a game early.
However, it doesn't look good. There's a lot to do. At least Henrik and McDonagh seemed like they cared. I noticed something in Henrik's presser. He was asked a question and part of his response was along these lines (not a direct quote): "We need to get puck luck. I believe you earn your bounces by how hard you work. Lately we haven't been getting bounces."
To me, it seemed like he was indirectly saying the team isn't working hard enough out there.
All these offseason roster moves are premature. Come Friday night, if they lose, or Sunday night, or Tuesday night, we can start dissecting the offseason. I refuse to give up hope that they can turn it around. You Yankees fan saw what Boston did to you in 04. LA did it this year down 3-0. Giants fans know what type of miracles can happen. This **** isn't over. Like I said, I'm not too optimistic about our chances, but I won't mail in the season a game early.
thepoeticgoblin
Registered User
We win as a team and we lose as a team. It is that simple. The New York Rangers let the fans and themselves down in this game. We're not turning this around IMO but I hope to get the series back to the Garden.
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