Speculation: Pierre-Luc Dubois Mega thread. (LAK frontrunner, but Montreal has circled back)

[Junohockeyfan]

LA has mid level young players that will keep Winnipeg fro tanking but not good enough to make the Jets a contender.

Chevy's response to that: Perfect!

 

[SCP Guy]

Giving term to Vilardi would be extremely risky.

Agree but it’s these kinds of risks unpopular destinations must take

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

And play him where?

In Winnipeg.

Or did you mean what position? At RHD - after moving Pionk or Schmidt.

 

[lomiller1]

I question how awesome he would be without any ready-top-6 wingers to help drive play. Wingerslike Armia / Hoffman / Monahan / Dadonov and an injured Gallagher would have killed PLD's offensive production last season. How productive would he be with young prospect players (Roy, Slaf, Ferell etc.) learning to play in the NHL.

Peggers just don't understand how good Dach was playing with mediocre talent. Habs need the young prospects / players to develop into bonafide top-6 talent. Hopefully Slaf will take the next steps and provide Dach with a winger this season and hopefully Gallagher/Monahan are healthy.

Dach played most of the season with Suzuki and Caufield....

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Dach played most of the season with Suzuki and Caufield....

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He played 1/2 the season with them (and note the PP skews this graphic). He got injured. Then he finished the other half of the season playing 2C with scrub wingers.

Habs were never going to trade Dach for PLD and then pay PLD 9M AAV. That's the height of stupidity.

PLD would have produced far less as a Hab with scrub wingers than on the Jets.

And as i stated before, in D+5 PLD produced 21 pts in 46 games. Dach will obliterate that in his D + 5 even with lesser wingers

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Spence is not excess. LA need him


Keep dreaming

Some attitude! I come here offering to solve all of your problems and give you a Cup winner and this is what I get. Forget it then. I'll peddle them somewhere else.

 

[BB88]

Giving term to Vilardi would be extremely risky.

Going shortterm is risky for Jets now.

They need stability

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Get Campbell from the oilers

Sure, problem solved. Rebuild -> Contender!

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Going shortterm is risky for Jets now.

They need stability

Even if they go longterm, Vilardi can still ask for a trade out of Winnipeg.

 

[MardyBum]

In Winnipeg.

Or did you mean what position? At RHD - after moving Pionk or Schmidt.

Oh? Awesome! To where and what are they paying to do it .

He's just more Neal Pionk. If Demelo isn't re-signing they need a righty version of Samberg.

 

[Maukkis]

He played 1/2 the season with them (and note the PP skews this graphic). He got injured. Then he finished the other half of the season playing 2C with scrub wingers.

Habs were never going to trade Dach for PLD and then pay PLD 9M AAV. That's the height of stupidity.

PLD would have produced far less as a Hab with scrub wingers than on the Jets.

And as i stated before, in D+5 PLD produced 21 pts in 46 games. Dach will obliterate that in his D + 5 even with lesser wingers

"% of 5v5 minutes".

Also, for how few Habs fans are apparently interested in trading for PLD, there are an awful lot of them arguing Kirby Dach's talent level here. Move on.

 

[FrankMTL]

LA and WPG are definitely the best trade partners for PLD. WPG wants an established young player back, and LA has one to spare.

MTL would be able to make this type of trade, but only a couple of years from now when they will have an excess of good young players/prospects.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Wonder if Turcotte gets thrown into the deal.

No thanks. Turcotte has got a lot of bust stink all over him. After D+4 he still hasn't been much of a success in the AHL yet, much less the NHL.

 

[TS Quint]

Your the one whose gonna watch a team finish 10-9th in the conference for the next 5 years.

How are those grapes? They seen pretty sour.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

"% of 5v5 minutes".

Also, for how few Habs fans are apparently interested in trading for PLD, there are an awful lot of them arguing Kirby Dach's talent level here. Move on.

I think you are confused. You guys have been arguing with the same Hab fans this whole time...lol

 

[MardyBum]

LA and WPG are definitely the best trade partners for PLD. WPG wants an established young player back, and LA has one to spare.

MTL would be able to make this type of trade, but only a couple of years from now when they will have an excess of good young players/prospects.

Yep, if Winnipeg was rebuilding(which many fans want but alas) Montreal would have a good futures package. But they want the younger NHL roster players which makes no sense for the Habs right now.

 

[Melrose Munch]

Suzuki and PLD as the Habs’ 1,2 centres is pretty darned good. Both young, big, skilled, smart, and hard to play against. Two guys a club can build a winner around. The Kings will have PLD but when Kopitar goes who else plays centre? Byfield is a question mark just like Dach.

Go Get Matthews in 2024.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Yep, if Winnipeg was rebuilding(which many fans want but alas) Montreal would have a good futures package. But they want the younger NHL roster players which makes no sense for the Habs right now.

This is the part that stuns me the most. Why aren't the Jets planning a rebuild and triggering it with the PLD trade?? Why not demand Byfield and other young assets? I like Vilardi, don't get me wrong, but i think the Jets should be rebuilding given the pending exodus of players that want out.

 

[biturbo19]

LA has mid level young players that will keep Winnipeg fro tanking but not good enough to make the Jets a contender.

I agree. I'm not a big believer in a lot of the Kings top prospects and young players. I think a lot of them are hugely overrated. But that seems to be the general intention in Winnipeg. To acquire pieces that can contribute now, as well as toward the future.

 

[BB88]

Even if they go longterm, Vilardi can still ask for a trade out of Winnipeg.

They still need players with term/controll

 

[lomiller1]

No thanks. Turcotte has got a lot of bust stink all over him. After D+4 he still hasn't been much of a success in the AHL yet, much less the NHL.

I'd take Pinelle over Turcotte

 

[Junohockeyfan]

They still need players with term/controll

True, but the player also has to want to sign longterm. Hard to say what Vilardi is thinking right now when it comes to his extension. The guy must be reeling.

 

[Richiebottles]

Dawg, what is taking so long.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Habs shitty offers were based on the premise he wants to sign in Montreal and we could get him for free. Not competing this year so don’t really need him. If we are just a stalking horse from his agent to get a better deal for his client we are more than use to that. Rumored return is great for the Jets. Wouldn’t have paid him more than Suzuki so will see what he signs for.

I’m a firm believer in karma. If a GM isn’t going to negotiate in good faith, then it comes back to haunt them.

Like the Rangers this year when Kane forced his way to them. Congrats on getting a huge steal, I hope you enjoyed your first round exit. It’s a moot point though since PLD is clearly out going to the Habs, but people remember these scenarios.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Dawg, what is taking so long.

Maybe Vilardi doesn't want to be a Jet?