Speculation: Pierre-Luc Dubois Mega thread. (LAK frontrunner, but Montreal has circled back)

[RC51]

LOOK , Sure the habs would like PLD. BUT the habs are on the way to a full rebuild.
Thats the BIG plan. If PLD got the info that the habs would offer a big 8 year deal but for a max of 8mil per and thats IT. so the ball is in PLD court. If he wants 10mil per then go get it somewhere else and thats iT. Nobody it going to CRY. Habs are still on the way with good young talent anyway. not even next year but the big turn around is going to happen no matter what. PLD is good YES but he aint no 50 goal / 50 points and a +50 on defense..

 

[gojetsgo]

Came from our beat writer.. but the reality is no one knows yet.. could be Bjornfot if we get Dillon too

I think it's likely that the jets are looking at centers when they could be trading their top 2 centers this year

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Lol in the fakest season of all time. I don't see how you pass up on acquiring a Quebecois 1C who perfectly fits into the Suzuki/Caufield age group and desperately wants to play for you but hey as long as the fans are convinced.

Because most Hab fans here don't give two shits about a player just being Quebecois and are more concerned with how they'll impact our team going forward. PLD doesn't suddenly make us a playoff team, let alone a cup contending. So it's much better to stay the course and not pointlessly rush our rebuild.

Not to mention, PLD isn't a #1 center and never has been. Will he become one? Maybe. That hasn't happened yet though. He's a #2 demanding $9M on a eight year deal. We'll pass, thanks.

 

[gojetsgo]

I thought they needed centers? They look like they'll have only Lowry and Perfetti down the middle real soon.

Idk about moving Fagemo, he's exactly the type of cheap winger the Kings need for the cap crunch this season

it's 100% centers, we are moving pld and maybe scheifele as well, I don't know why someone would say wingers

 

[kings11]

I thought they needed centers? They look like they'll have only Lowry and Perfetti down the middle real soon.

Idk about moving Fagemo, he's exactly the type of cheap winger the Kings need for the cap crunch this season

If I had to bet, I’d say the Jets will likely go Vilardi a go at Center one more time if it doesn’t work then back to the wing..
also keep in mind that Iafallo, Vilardi and Lizotte are all centers.. the Kings just made space for them on the wings

I think it's likely that the jets are looking at centers when they could be trading their top 2 centers this year

Vilardi, Iafallo and Lizotte are all centers but the first two play wing since they clicked with their line mates..

 

[gojetsgo]

If I had to bet, I’d say the Jets will likely go Vilardi a go at Center one more time if it doesn’t work then back to the wing..
also keep in mind that Iafallo, Vilardi and Lizotte are all centers.. the Kings just made space for them on the wings


Vilardi, Iafallo and Lizotte are all centers but the first two play wing since they clicked with their line mates..

so then the jets aren't going after wingers then... which is what you said the rumor was...

 

[JKG33]

it's 100% centers, we are moving pld and maybe scheifele as well, I don't know why someone would say wingers

Yea that's why I figured Lizotte could be of some use in the bottom 6 given how thin the UFA crop of centers is.

If I had to bet, I’d say the Jets will likely go Vilardi a go at Center one more time if it doesn’t work then back to the wing..
also keep in mind that Iafallo, Vilardi and Lizotte are all centers.. the Kings just made space for them on the wings


Vilardi, Iafallo and Lizotte are all centers but the first two play wing since they clicked with their line mates..

I highly doubt AI or Vilardi are center solutions for the Jets.

I think Lizotte sticks at C there tho

 

[JTeller97]

Can someone give a scouting report on Harkins?

 

[kings11]

so then the jets aren't going after wingers then... which is what you said the rumor was...

They currently play the wing my guy.. the Kings philosophy is to draft centers as they think it’s easier for them to transition to the wing of the need arises

 

[gojetsgo]

Can someone give a scouting report on Harkins?

depends on who you talk too.. for me he would always start out strong and look like a legit player but would fade and you would hardly notice him, seems like the type of player that is to good for the ahl and not good enough for the nhl

 

[kylbaz]

Can someone give a scouting report on Harkins?

Most of us Jets fans like him, didn't get much of a chance and when he did, he didn't perform much. I think he could be a good third liner and probably fit in very well with LA's style of play. I posted on the Jets forum I could see him having a good year and make the trade look quite bad. High energy guy that we need on the Jets.

 

[kings11]

Yea that's why I figured Lizotte could be of some use in the bottom 6 given how thin the UFA crop of centers is.

I highly doubt AI or Vilardi are center solutions for the Jets.

I think Lizotte sticks at C there tho

I mean the biggest knock on Gabe besides his injuries was a lack of speed but he looked plenty damn quick last season… if not for a cheap shot he probably gets close to 40 goals..

 

[Atoyot]

Can someone give a scouting report on Harkins?

Solid, high motor, faster than he looks, has a crazy good shot that he doesn't often get off, fine in the defensive zone. Whenever he got an opportunity to prove himself he'd get what seemed like the yips, he'd get the puck, do 3 or 4 great things in a row, then right when the moment came to finish off the play, either by shooting or passing, he'd flub it. It always seemed like if he could get past that hurdle he'd be solid. Even ignoring that hurdle though, he was still solid when he played, but those big events where the play doesn't materialize sticks in people's heads a lot more than all the other little things he did right. There's always a weird bias where the player that creates a ton of opportunities that just barely don't work is judged harsher than the player who just doesn't create opportunities at all.

 

[lomiller1]

Johansen is 30 years old and signed his 8 year deal when he was 24 years old. 6 years later traded at loss as cap dump with 2 years remaining on his contract.

Habs are NOT contending, not even playoff bubble within the next 2 or 3 years. The time PLD become relevant to the habs potential contending time he would be 27 or 28 years. It's not a good match for a rebuilding team. A more advanced team in their rebuild like the Sabres or the Senators, absolutely but clearly not for the Habs.
In 2 years or 3 years, Montreal can start shopping for disgruntled players or top free agents.

If the Habs are still rebuilding when PLD is 28 their re-build failed. If you think 28 is "to old to contribute" I really don't know what to tell you.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Complete meltdown here if LA does indeed trade Gabe.

 

[dukeofjive]

If the Habs are still rebuilding when PLD is 28 their re-build failed. If you think 28 is "to old to contribute" I really don't know what to tell you.

So habs should trade the few pieces they got in the past 2 years of the rebuilding for a 2c?

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[Michoulicious]

Complete meltdown here if LA does indeed trade Gabe.

Looks like they will. Winnipeg doing great in a tough situation where Dubois had all the power.

Good thing he accepted to go to more than one team! It allowed a bidding war it seems.

Now the key is the cap hit. They should not give him more than 8 per.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Looks like they will. Winnipeg doing great in a tough situation where Dubois had all the power.

Good thing he accepted to go to more than one team! It allowed a bidding war it seems.

Now the key is the cap hit. They should not give him more than 8 per.

I wouldn't call it a bidding war. One team is offering the likes of Dvorak + Halek + 2nd and the other Valiardi + capdump + bottom 6 player.

LA was bidding against themselves! lol

 

[kilowatt]

If I had to bet, I’d say the Jets will likely go Vilardi a go at Center one more time if it doesn’t work then back to the wing..
also keep in mind that Iafallo, Vilardi and Lizotte are all centers.. the Kings just made space for them on the wings


Vilardi, Iafallo and Lizotte are all centers but the first two play wing since they clicked with their line mates..

Iafallo has never played center in the NHL

 

[BoneDocUK]

Solid, high motor, faster than he looks, has a crazy good shot that he doesn't often get off, fine in the defensive zone. Whenever he got an opportunity to prove himself he'd get what seemed like the yips, he'd get the puck, do 3 or 4 great things in a row, then right when the moment came to finish off the play, either by shooting or passing, he'd flub it. It always seemed like if he could get past that hurdle he'd be solid. Even ignoring that hurdle though, he was still solid when he played, but those big events where the play doesn't materialize sticks in people's heads a lot more than all the other little things he did right. There's always a weird bias where the player that creates a ton of opportunities that just barely don't work is judged harsher than the player who just doesn't create opportunities at all.

Great report.

I'd only add that he's more playmaker than closer of late, and has been a very solid PKer wherever he played.

Smart player with skill who never stops working and never sulks. Jets brass in their wisdom went for waiver wire no-scoring big bodies over him too often but he definitely deserves a chance somewhere else and I expect him to do well.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

this could be one of the most interesting trades of the offseason.












not for WPG

 

[Michoulicious]

I wouldn't call it a bidding war. One team is offering the likes of Dvorak + Halek + 2nd and the other Valiardi + capdump + bottom 6 player.

LA was bidding against themselves! lol

Vilardi + Iafallo + is not that bad. Not sure what the last + is.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Is Pagnotta the same guy who said Clarke was traded last year?

Not saying he’s wrong here, just wondering how valid he is as a source.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

If the Habs are still rebuilding when PLD is 28 their re-build failed. If you think 28 is "to old to contribute" I really don't know what to tell you.

I said the opposite but apparently reading comprehension is hard.

 

[kilowatt]

Is Pagnotta the same guy who said Clarke was traded last year?

Not saying he’s wrong here, just wondering how valid he is as a source.

No that was Kypreos. Pagnotta said the opposite