Speculation: Pierre-Luc Dubois Mega thread. (LAK frontrunner, but Montreal has circled back)

[Guffman]

Personally, I think PLD is mistake for Kings. He is never going to be more then 60-70 pt C who isn't all that great at faceoffs or any other facet of game

Giving up Vilardi is a mistake IMO

He is really coming together as player and is only 23

I think Vilardi could be a PPG 1st line winger for years to come who could be 35-40 goal scorer

Y’know, Dubois is just one year older than Vilardi. Dubois has already established himself, while Vilardi has not.

As a Jets fan, I would have much preferred to have extended Dubois in Winnipeg if that was an option rather than trade him for Vilardi.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Any chance Kings can fit Dubois + Helle under the cap?

Iafallo+Vilardi+futures + who else for cap?

 

[BKarchitect]

PLD is objectively a better talent than Vilardi at a position that is valued higher. But you gotta pay him.

I think this could be a good trade for both teams although the Jets look really think at center now.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Say it with me, everyone!

WhY wOuLd wE TrAdE wHeN wE'Ll GeT HiM fOr fReEeeEEEEeeEeEeEEEEE!!!!!!!

 

[57special]

Wonder if Turcotte gets thrown into the deal.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I will say this though. There are indeed Habs fans who will be upset. The same fans who believe that having French Canadian star players are more important than a team that can compete for a cup. The type of fan that gives higher value and esteem to a player who has a french name over a better player with an english name.

Yes, make no mistake, there will be very disappointed Habs fans. And this Habs fan sends my sincere sympathies to you weak ass putzes!

 

[howkie]

a third overall that never amounted to much and signed an offer sheet...that was not a trade. You could say that all teams that lose free agents didn't do very well with the ROI.

So it is oki to smack Jets but we cant do the same to Montreal because they made a worse draftpick? Both are equal bad, but looks like Jets can salvage some value but Montreal just wasted a third overall on nothing..

 

[Guffman]

I’m one of the most perceivably on board with his joining the habs and still I would not give anything but salary and whoever’r’s spot he’d be taking in return.

Well, he would have taken Dach’s spot as 2C lol but who are we kidding? Dach will likely be a winger.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Posters have brought up Mtl since the first page...we never back down from a good discussion. Especially one where we can slap back ridiculous comments.

Pretty sure the first comment was from one of your own

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Well, he would have taken Dach’s spot as 2C lol but who are we kidding? Dach will likely be a winger.

Then why did Dach finish the season as the Habs 2C and was our best play driver after Suzuki? Your hate for Habs trollish offers shouldn't cloud your better judgement on players that you really don' know much about. lol

 

[Martyros]

I feel Blake tends to overpay for stuff like this. Trading Vilardi is going to haunt us.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Still think moving Vilardi is a huge mistake.

As leader of the vilardi fan club; ducks chapter…. I think it’s a mistake

Vilardi will be > pld

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Wonder if Turcotte gets thrown into the deal.

Turcotte is a bust and i am sure he gets thrown in the deal because of it.

 

[robbieboy3686]

As a ducks fan this makes me very happy. Lazy purely money driven scumbag PLD… Enjoy him.

 

[Go Wings]

This has all the makings of an awful trade for LA. Giving up a young Vilardi and less young Iafallo for PLD. A guy who is on his 3rd team at 25 and going to be signed to much more money they he is currently worth.
It might work out in the end for them but it has big potential to blow up in LA's face.

 

[Rob Sense]

At Dach's age PLD had scored 32 more goals and 61 more points in about the same number of games and he's only gotten better since. In Dach's "breakout" season he was barely more productive than PLD's rookie year despite playing in a much higher scoring league. Chances Dach will ever be as good as PLD is right now have to be less than 5%, maybe lower.

right and he is looking for a European Beer League backup plan as we speak!

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Last i checked, Habs traded for a big, young C in Dach who made great strides last season and is set to be the Habs 2C of the future. They have the answers from within. And they can double down at 5 if Smith is available (or even Leonard who can play C).

The point is - PLD at 9M AAV as reported would have been a huge mistake. And giving up a potential C in Dach who is on a team friendly contract in the process would have exacerbated this mistake.

The question now is - what are the Jets going to do for a 2C? Perfetti ain't it and apparently Viliardi is not a C.

Your not a viable solution at C if your 38.3% at faceoffs. Dach has shown no improvement at dot

Dach has major issues as a NHL C at this point he needs to fix going forward if that is plan from Habs

Its looking more and more like Dach will be winger in NHL not C

 

[Barriwhite]

I will say this though. There are indeed Habs fans who will be upset. The same fans who believe that having French Canadian star players are more important than a team that can compete for a cup. The type of fan that gives higher value and esteem to a player who has a french name over a better player with an english name.

Yes, make no mistake, there will be very disappointed Habs fans. And this Habs fan sends my sincere sympathies to you weak ass putzes!

Come on now… name 1 poster that does.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

If true, how long he will last until he asks to be moved?

 

[amnesiac]

Will it? He can still sign there if he doesn’t sign an extension

pretty sure LA arent trading for 1 year of PLD

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Vilardi + Iafallo + Turcotte + 2nd?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I feel Blake tends to overpay for stuff like this. Trading Vilardi is going to haunt us.

I really think the Jets win this trade if Vilardi ++ is the return. But it depends solely on what the LA Kings sign PLD to. If its over 8M AAV, then Jets win. If its under 8M then its a good hockey trade for both.

Vilardi + Iafallo + Turcotte + 2nd?

That's a win for the Jets IMO. Unless the Kings sign PLD to 8 x 6M.

 

[Guffman]

Last i checked, Habs traded for a big, young C in Dach who made great strides last season and is set to be the Habs 2C of the future. They have the answers from within. And they can double down at 5 if Smith is available (or even Leonard who can play C).

The point is - PLD at 9M AAV as reported would have been a huge mistake. And giving up a potential C in Dach who is on a team friendly contract in the process would have exacerbated this mistake.

The question now is - what are the Jets going to do for a 2C? Perfetti ain't it and apparently Viliardi is not a C.

Dach’s 38-point “break-out” season was him playing on the wing more than at center. His production was largely as a winger.

He’s not had any meaningful development at center so for you to pencil him in as your 2C is a huge stretch. Also…

 

[SI90]

It’s weird because I could see Villardi becoming at least on par with PLD or even better. I’m guess Kings really like PLD