Value of: Pierre Engvall
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Jumptheshark
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Pretty much the entire leaf roster is underrated to some people. If he is so valuable the leafs should keep him
Leaf Fans
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Yeah, he had a real Logan Brown type of consideration at one point. We all get excited about prospects.
General Fanager
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a team like the Devils or Coyotes would imo
It’s only 1.25 so if your way under the cap you can take a shot
The only 4th liners who retain some mid round value are experienced cup winners who are past their prime and traded at the TDL.
Players like Engvall are waiver fodder.
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I mean, depends on who you're talking to. Half this website just don't like the team so ya, most guys are underrated.
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He def would, he was good in the playoffs and has the potential to be one of those high end shut down guys who never puts up the offence to get paid kinda like Cizikas. Also 9/10 big guys who can skate teams are willing to take a flyer on lol
Jumptheshark
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you can fill in player X from any team and the other fan bases will say that player is worth maybe a 5th. Part of the problem is the TO media pumping 3rd/4th liner tires. I love it when TSN does a feature on a player playing on the marlies 4th line
I can definitely see him succeeding with another team. Doesn’t really have any weaknesses.
Good skater, good size, good shot, solid defensively. He’s pretty soft though. It’s just a motivation thing for him, when he’s fighting for a spot in the lineup he always looks good… once he’s a regular, he’s meh.
If he can work on consistency he’d be a solid middle 6 forward who can play any role.
Good skater, good size, good shot, solid defensively. He’s pretty soft though. It’s just a motivation thing for him, when he’s fighting for a spot in the lineup he always looks good… once he’s a regular, he’s meh.
If he can work on consistency he’d be a solid middle 6 forward who can play any role.
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He's not worth much / anything at this point or at the roster deadline -- there will be a decent quantity of players like him available on waivers, and with almost half the league presently over the cap, whether it's a good idea to spend $1.25m on him will be a consideration.
That being said, I believe the Leafs do like him, and like having the versatility he brings. He's not as good as Kerfoot in a 3rd line C role, but can play there if Kerfoot ends up on the wing. He's probably not as good as Kampf in a 4th line C role, but can play there in case of injury. If they can find a way to keep him as a 13th forward, I suspect they will.
That being said, the Leafs are in somewhat of a precarious position with respect to the cap. They have a 21-man roster, with $80k in space. Even if they drop Engvall in favour of somebody like Brooks, Gabriel, Robertson, Ho-Sang or Gusev, it doesn't open up enough space to carry a 22-man roster.... so really, what's the point?
I believe Brooks, Gabriel, Robertson can all be recalled from the Marlies under the Roster Emergency Exemption.If signed, I'd imagine Ho-Sang would as well... and the way the Leafs operate, even if one of those guys "wins" a spot over Engvall, they'll value having injury depth over meritocracy.
To me, the only real x-factor is Gusev, as I'd imagine it's NHL or Russia for him. If he makes the team, barring an injury to somebody else, they'll have to risk dropping Engvall.
That being said, I believe the Leafs do like him, and like having the versatility he brings. He's not as good as Kerfoot in a 3rd line C role, but can play there if Kerfoot ends up on the wing. He's probably not as good as Kampf in a 4th line C role, but can play there in case of injury. If they can find a way to keep him as a 13th forward, I suspect they will.
That being said, the Leafs are in somewhat of a precarious position with respect to the cap. They have a 21-man roster, with $80k in space. Even if they drop Engvall in favour of somebody like Brooks, Gabriel, Robertson, Ho-Sang or Gusev, it doesn't open up enough space to carry a 22-man roster.... so really, what's the point?
I believe Brooks, Gabriel, Robertson can all be recalled from the Marlies under the Roster Emergency Exemption.If signed, I'd imagine Ho-Sang would as well... and the way the Leafs operate, even if one of those guys "wins" a spot over Engvall, they'll value having injury depth over meritocracy.
To me, the only real x-factor is Gusev, as I'd imagine it's NHL or Russia for him. If he makes the team, barring an injury to somebody else, they'll have to risk dropping Engvall.
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Not a Leaf fan, but every time I watch Engvall play he looks decent. He's not the missing piece for a Buffalo to win the cup or anything, but he passes the eye test any time I've seen him play. I'm surprised by how many people think he's waiver fodder. I would take him on my team as a bottom 6 player.
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6'5", good skater, PKs some, has managed to be a + player with ~50% possession numbers both seasons, despite heavy defensive usage and nothing special for linemates. Should be worth a 3rd rounder, though the points made about this being a bad time of year to try to trade a depth player are correct.
That hair and jawline should have some value too
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I think lengthy playoff runs might count, like someone from Vegas, but 10 games from two first round exits doesn’t exactly make him a playoff vet.
The over-rating of Engvall is represented by 3 pages of discussion. This thread should have been closed after the second response. Pierre Engvall does not merit more than a page of discussion. He’s a dime a dozen fourth line forward.
He always looked pretty good against the Jets last year. I'd make a move for him if we weren't at the cap
