Confirmed with Link: Pierre Engvall extended [1 year, $2.25M]

[2 Slick]

so will he get his first goal of the playoffs this season?

With this abysmal goaltending tandem, will the Leafs make the playoffs is the biggest question mark.

 

[Sypher04]

With this abysmal goaltending tandem, will the Leafs make the playoffs is the biggest question mark.

Because our goaltending was so good last year…

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Meh, seems a 2 yr term would have been expected. In any event don’t like the player and don’t care how well he skates or his microstats, he’s yet another physically easy-to-play-against player on a team stacked with them

 

[kevsh]

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Kerfoot - Kampf - Jarnkrok
Engvall - ________ - Aube-Kubel

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Giordano - Liljegren

Murray
Samsonov

I have absolutely zero faith that that lineup is going to fare any better than the 6 previous versions of this roster that failed.

I can give Dubas the benefit of the doubt in that the summer is not over and there are moves he can still make, but come on, we know how this story goes. Speculation that Kerfoot and/or Holl may be moved, but I highly doubt it.

Kyle wants to give this team every opportunity to "figure it out" even though they've shown they either can't or won't figure it out. We know that now. As soon as the other team starts to tighten up defensively, cut down shooting/passing lanes, collapse in their own zone, block shots (something the Leafs themselves simply refuse to do), the Leafs stop scoring and the series is over.

So anyone who is far more rosy on this teams' chances next season please, look at that roster and tell me how confident you are in games 6/7 against any realistic Eastern Conference opponent next season, the Leafs can play the way they need to play to win?

 

[Knies iT]

Next year is going to be a real cap bloodbath with Engvall, Bunting, Kampf, Kerfoot, Holl, Aube-Kubel, Simmonds all going to Edmonton. I mean hitting UFA status.

Need to proactively manage this by trading a couple proactively and have some longer lasting contracts running multiple years.

And then the following summer? Matthews, Nylander, Liljegren and probably Sandin.

Hence why I argued to sign Liljegren long term. This is going to happen every 2 years with the way Dubas handles his contracts.

 

[capfit9]

Meh, seems a 2 yr term would have been expected. In any event don’t like the player and don’t care how well he skates or his microstats, he’s yet another physically easy-to-play-against player on a team stacked with them

Just to add, another player that will be walked to UFA for likely nothing. A Dubas speciality.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Just to add, another player that will be walked to UFA for likely nothing. A Dubas speciality.

So you don't like the player, and you're also preemptively upset about losing him for nothing next year. Sounds very intelligent, good work

 

[Coachcorner]

A tree is know for its right leafs. And we as maple leafs are now getting the right fruity leafs. We will still be making deals and trades with indian accent too. As many of you know. Now its interesting to see where this engvall signing takes us. Many think it'll bring us to another trade and getting us the RIGHT fruity leafs that we are known of. The right Tree.

 

[Jmo89]

He's okay for the bottom 6 in the regular season. Vanilla and scared in the playoffs. I guess that's all you're getting for 2M though.

 

[Legion34]

I think this was a little too expensive for a 1 year deal.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

So you don't like the player, and you're also preemptively upset about losing him for nothing next year. Sounds very intelligent, good work

He didn’t say he didn’t like Engvall.

 

[kb]

And then the following summer? Matthews, Nylander, Liljegren and probably Sandin.

Hence why I argued to sign Liljegren long term. This is going to happen every 2 years with the way Dubas handles his contracts.

There is nothing wrong with approaching things this way. There is Muzzin, Brodie, and Murray coming off the books at the same time those 4 need raises.

And there is only $31.5 million on the books then. JT and Marner in their final seasons, Jarnkrok, and Rielly.

They are set up for this very well IMO. The Leafs certainly can't afford any more mistakes like the Zaitsev type deals.

 

[Gabriel426]

I think he is being pencil in as our 2nd line LW.

 

[justashadowof]

Might've gotten more in arbitration.

I don't see the end game here yet. The current Capfriendly has it at $1.5M over with 14 forwards/6 defenseman/2 goalies. Subtract 1 league min forward and we're still $750K over without Sandin signed.

I guess Kerfoot is going to be moved. After getting his bonus, he's only making $750K this season which should make him painless to move. Regardless of his bonehead plays in the Tampa series, he does several things for the team like penalty killing, jumping between lines and filling in at center that aren't going to be seamlessly replaced.

 

[danron1376]

With this abysmal goaltending tandem, will the Leafs make the playoffs is the biggest question mark.

other teams in our division got better while we made lateral moves at best so the worry is there. but i think we'll make it.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

He didn’t say he didn’t like Engvall.

He "added on" to your low level analysis for why you don't like Engvall. Most people would take that as an endorsement

 

[Deebo]

Surprising they couldn't get him for 2 years at that cap hit.

Arbitration would a have given him a one year deal at around this amount.

 

[Nineteen67]

Opportunity to parlay this into something greater.

 

[zeke]

I have absolutely zero faith that that lineup is going to fare any better than the 6 previous versions of this roster that failed.

I can give Dubas the benefit of the doubt in that the summer is not over and there are moves he can still make, but come on, we know how this story goes. Speculation that Kerfoot and/or Holl may be moved, but I highly doubt it.

Kyle wants to give this team every opportunity to "figure it out" even though they've shown they either can't or won't figure it out. We know that now. As soon as the other team starts to tighten up defensively, cut down shooting/passing lanes, collapse in their own zone, block shots (something the Leafs themselves simply refuse to do), the Leafs stop scoring and the series is over.

So anyone who is far more rosy on this teams' chances next season please, look at that roster and tell me how confident you are in games 6/7 against any realistic Eastern Conference opponent next season, the Leafs can play the way they need to play to win?

The Leafs played the way they needed to play to win this year.

 

[kb]

other teams in our division got better while we made lateral moves at best so the worry is there. but i think we'll make it.

The only teams that got better in the division are the ones that are currently non-rivals.

All 3 of the Leafs main challengers in the Atlantic are taking significant hits to their rosters.

 

[Knies iT]

There is nothing wrong with approaching things this way. There is Muzzin, Brodie, and Murray coming off the books at the same time those 4 need raises.

And there is only $31.5 million on the books then. JT and Marner in their final seasons, Jarnkrok, and Rielly.

They are set up for this very well IMO. The Leafs certainly can't afford any more mistakes like the Zaitsev type deals.

Yes there is. It’s the reason that they have next to zero medium term surplus value contracts. Results in high turnover every single offseason and lost assets because you can’t afford them post bridge.

If he can’t even risk signing a couple longer term contracts to young players then there’s clearly a talent evaluation problem. Not even talking about Engvall per se.

 

[Legion34]

other teams in our division got better while we made lateral moves at best so the worry is there. but i think we'll make it.

I don’t really think so. The leafs stayed about the same.

Tampa got way worse. They lost McDonagh and palat. Their major players all had serious injuries …. Who knows how point/cirelli will recover.

Boston has massive injuries. A half in Bergeron.
Florida lost half the team.

The teams thar got a little better we’re 40 pts behind and the leafs already didn’t perform well against them

 

[capfit9]

So you don't like the player, and you're also preemptively upset about losing him for nothing next year. Sounds very intelligent, good work.

no, i’d like an asset back for the player i don’t like. think mate and take your Dubas glasses off.

 

[zeke]

With this abysmal goaltending tandem, will the Leafs make the playoffs is the biggest question mark.

115pts with the 22nd ranked goaltending this season.

 

[NJG]

Eh, would have liked a multi year contract. Glad he'll be back though, and obviously some moves are required now, cap wise. But that would be buying UFA years. He'll be UFA next summer, and probably hoping to cash in like Mikheyev.

I think they only did one year because they know he won’t get as many points this year. So then they can sign him for cheaper and longer term after this year.