Other Sports: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): THIS IS BRAZIL (Start Of 2024 Regular Season)

[JojoTheWhale]

The big issue with this statement being, does Pickett have strengths?

There are only two cases where the discourse around 1st round QBs broke my brain. One was the move Lamar to a different position leaking brain stuff.

The other was calling Pickett a potential safe processor archetype. If you liked him, fine. That's just normal evaluation disagreements. But he had zero success in college until he became a big time out of structure producer. There was no chance in hell he had the athleticism to do that in the NFL. Either he somehow made that work or he was DOA.

No. (Tomlin is a Warlock.)

 

[Halladay]

There is enough weakness in DCs defense that with time to properly plan for a backup's strengths, they could have won.

The big issue with this statement being, does Pickett have strengths?

Does Pickett have strengths? For the opposition he does. Fair play to Washington and Jayden.

 

[Rebels57]

Repeatedly running at Wagner seemed like a thing I thought they'd stop doing, maybe start going perimeter to try and challenge the LBs to keep up

Thats what I was calling for

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

There's going to be some sweet poetry if the Eagles lock this up next week and the Eagles play no one the last week against the Giants who will likely be playing for the 1st pick.

Throw a pick every single play. Make the Giants win.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Does this go down as a Loss on Jalen's ESP stat?

You should get an extra point if you have to fit a ball into the tiny ass windows that Boutte creates.

@Chinatown88

 

[Sensrule]

Foles worked his magic to the Super Bowl last time. If Hurts is out long-term. Pickett sure as hell ain't leading us to the promise land. Defense got all those turnovers but couldn't get the crucial stop on that last drive.

If we lose next week. Feels like it's going to be a repeat of the playoffs last year with us losing, this time at home. (Unless Washington wins the division which is slim but they've had magical moments all season.)

 

[Halladay]

Foles worked his magic to the Super Bowl last time. If Hurts is out long-term. Pickett sure as hell ain't leading us to the promise land. Defense got all those turnovers but couldn't get the crucial stop on that last drive.

If we lose next week. Feels like it's going to be a repeat of the playoffs last year with us losing, this time at home. (Unless Washington wins the division which is slim but they've had magical moments all season.)

They will kill the Giants with Pickett or not. They are so bad. Being out over 3 weeks seems extreme seems extreme even for a concussion.

 

[trostol]

 

[bennysflyers16]

Damn Falcons D beat me , lost by less than a point.

 

[Beef Invictus]

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The Eagles literally have the chance to do the funniest thing possible.

 

[trostol]

BUCKY!!!!!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Woof.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Does this game look as sucky as it looks from the box score

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The Eagles are going to have a STUPID road schedule next year.

JFC.

Division
Packers
Chiefs
Chargers
Vikings
NFC South (Tampa at the moment)
AFC East (Buffalo at the moment)

 

[DancingPanther]

I'm just surprised a) the defense was this bad and b) the running game didn't work? What is up with that?

 

[Mkoll]

I'm just surprised a) the defense was this bad and b) the running game didn't work? What is up with that?

I was thinking the running game failed because Washington didnt need to worry about Barkley AND Hurts.

No defense needs to worry about Pickett keeping a handoff and running.

 

[WIP CALLER]

I was thinking the running game failed because Washington didnt need to worry about Barkley AND Hurts.

No defense needs to worry about Pickett keeping a handoff and running.

They don’t have to really worry about Pickett beating them over the top either so they can literally just cram as many people in the box as possible. I don’t know what Howie saw in Pickett. Back up qb’s will always have flaws, it’s the nature of the beast, but seems like a good idea to have one that is like your starter but lite and that’s not Pickett.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I'm just surprised a) the defense was this bad and b) the running game didn't work? What is up with that?

The defense had a bunch of busted coverages. That’s the injuries and ejection because it’s communication. Remember when they couldn’t handle a Bunch formation for 5 straight years? That was communication. Plus Quinyon guessed wrong on a key play that ended up in a long TD. That’s just how it is with rookies. Essentially all of the damage was on Late Down Passing plays. Daniels is a playmaker. He made plays. This is very much not a game to cause grave concern.

It’s not just that there was no passing game making it hard on the running game. It’s that so much of what they do is designed around having a QB who’s a running threat. When you have to make that stylistic QB change on the fly, your playbook shrinks significantly. Yes, that part is on Howie to me. His plan I’m sure is to simply get the best backup he can and it makes sense. But part of the calculus is that it hurts you in games like this. His apparent strategy is trying to min-max for the 1-3 week absence rather than the fill-in game. They’ll know if Hurts isn’t going and be able to install more of what Pickett can run with a week to prep.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

The Eagles literally have the chance to do the funniest thing possible.

I mean why not, right?! What's even the point now that #1 seed is basically gone.

 

[flyershockey]

I'm still annoyed that the hit on Hurts that was pretty late, unnecessary, and with forceable contact to the head (which caused the bounce off the ground) will largely go unnoticed by the league, but we'll continue to see one hand shoves a second after the release get flagged every week. I know declared runners are subject to different rules, but it was reminiscent of the Clowney hit on Wentz in the playoffs a couple of years ago, meaning it was clearly intended to try and injure the most important player on the other team. It was the exact same thing that happened the first time they played Washington this year. Jalen just beat the protocol last time.

Between that and all the cut blocks, Dan Quinn has them playing pretty grimy football.

 

[DancingPanther]

The defense had a bunch of busted coverages. That’s the injuries and ejection because it’s communication. Remember when they couldn’t handle a Bunch formation for 5 straight years? That was communication. Plus Quinyon guessed wrong on a key play that ended up in a long TD. That’s just how it is with rookies. Essentially all of the damage was on Late Down Passing plays. Daniels is a playmaker. He made plays. This is very much not a game to cause grave concern.

It’s not just that there was no passing game making it hard on the running game. It’s that so much of what they do is designed around having a QB who’s a running threat. When you have to make that stylistic QB change on the fly, your playbook shrinks significantly. Yes, that part is on Howie to me. His plan I’m sure is to simply get the best backup he can and it makes sense. But part of the calculus is that it hurts you in games like this. His apparent strategy is trying to min-max for the 1-3 week absence rather than the fill-in game. They’ll know if Hurts isn’t going and be able to install more of what Pickett can run with a week to prep.

I guess if I thought for literally one more second I could have realized, simply, they couldn't run any read options. Duh

I feel like the defense played well despite some starters like Blankenship out earlier in the season but things aren't same when you can gameplan all week vs someone getting rejected and things changing on the fly.

Really though, if they could have punched it in one (or both obviously) of those times under the 10 yd line, they win this game. Or if Smith catches that ball. For the 2 of their 3 losses quite literally are because of wide open dropped passes for game breaking first downs. That's actually kind of nuts

 

[flyershockey]

It’s not just that there was no passing game making it hard on the running game. It’s that so much of what they do is designed around having a QB who’s a running threat. When you have to make that stylistic QB change on the fly, your playbook shrinks significantly. Yes, that part is on Howie to me. His plan I’m sure is to simply get the best backup he can and it makes sense. But part of the calculus is that it hurts you in games like this. His apparent strategy is trying to min-max for the 1-3 week absence rather than the fill-in game. They’ll know if Hurts isn’t going and be able to install more of what Pickett can run with a week to prep.

There's a reason Harbaugh has carried a Lamar Jackson lite as his backup since they named him the starter. You don't have an install for two QB's. You have what you're running and then a skinnier version of it for your back up, which is largely devoid of any timing routes that require practice reps. There's a reason it was slant/sluggo and digs. Those are window routes.

It's really hard to win with a back-up in the NFL (talent drop off, lack of reps, etc.). It's even harder to do it on the fly.

 

[DancingPanther]

Also did they pick up a flag for a hot on pickett that would have sealed the game? I'm seeing discourse

 

[Amorgus]

You should get an extra point if you have to fit a ball into the tiny ass windows that Boutte creates.

You mean Boutte holes? I thought I heard one of the announcers actually says that but it was "Boutte hauls"