OT: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): Don't Cry Because It's Over, Smile Because it Happened (Offseason - 2023)

[ChaosLord]

Bijan Robinson @ the #10 pick. I'm liking this more and more:

1. The Eagles offense would be head and shoulders above everyone else in the league. Makes them literally
unstoppable.

2. Keeps Bijan out of the hands of the Cowboys. Apparently they are very high on them. Bijan playing in Dallas
absolutely terrifies me. It cannot be allowed to happen.

 

[Striiker]

You wound me.

I'm not @Striiker.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[ajgoal]

I can think of several smoother ones.

 

[philly_28]

Bijan Robinson @ the #10 pick. I'm liking this more and more:

1. The Eagles offense would be head and shoulders above everyone else in the league. Makes them literally
unstoppable.

2. Keeps Bijan out of the hands of the Cowboys. Apparently they are very high on them. Bijan playing in Dallas
absolutely terrifies me. It cannot be allowed to happen.

Counterpoint: He's a f***ing running back.

2nd counterpoint: The Eagles need to draft defense. Too many positions just being held together with tape right now.

 

[Beef Invictus]

You can hear him trying not to laugh during the announcement

 

[deadhead]

What analytical draft value curves are missing about NFL roster building

We've come a long way since the days of the Jimmy Johnson draft chart, but newer analytical draft value curves are still missing critical context

unexpectedpoints.substack.com

Make sure you get down far enough to get to the positional stuff. That's the fresher meat here.

Since rookie contracts are 4-5 years, and trade value is relatively low in the NFL, you have to take into account a team's current "Portfolio" going into the draft (established starters, free agents and contract lengths and costs).

So an OT might be the best pure value at #10 for the Eagles, but with Mailata and Lane both bargains and signed long-term, they would not be able to obtain that value on the field for 2-3 years. Same at WR.

This is different than baseball or hockey, where a top pick can play almost immediately, and is a bargain for a significant stretch (either ELC/RFA cost or long-term FA contract discount based on those lower cost seasons at the beginning of the extension).

Football basically has a 3 year cycle, most contracts are 3 year deals with option years for the team. So for an individual team, the value of a pick has to be assessed in that context.

This creates numerous opportunities for draft arbitrage, Howie for example will probably target 2 or 3 players, and trade down if they're off the board b/c good player left may have less value to him than other teams.

 

[FLYguy3911]

So you can squirt a ref two times before getting ejected? What a league.

 

[Chinatown88]

So you can squirt a ref two times before getting ejected? What a league.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Bijan Robinson @ the #10 pick. I'm liking this more and more:

1. The Eagles offense would be head and shoulders above everyone else in the league. Makes them literally
unstoppable.

2. Keeps Bijan out of the hands of the Cowboys. Apparently they are very high on them. Bijan playing in Dallas
absolutely terrifies me. It cannot be allowed to happen.

Spending a #1 on a RB is just ridiculous. I don't usually cite Howard Eskin, but he once said "just shake a tree & RBs will fall out"

We can pickup good RBs on the cheap even during training camp. That's just how the market is and has been.

 

[Flybynite]

That's what she said.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@Beef Invictus

 

[Beef Invictus]

@Beef Invictus

Beef wants this. Give us A Process

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@JojoTheWhale

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ron is right. Howell is going to be better than Lamar, and because he's such a great guy he will refuse to take a contract over 10 million.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[Kermit the Prog]

Pass. Double-Zero is the money number

 

[trostol]

So you can squirt a ref two times before getting ejected? What a league.

same amount of pumps

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[DancingPanther]

Spending a #1 on a RB is just ridiculous. I don't usually cite Howard Eskin, but he once said "just shake a tree & RBs will fall out"

We can pickup good RBs on the cheap even during training camp. That's just how the market is and has been.

Boston Scott is good enough to win with ffs

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Boston Scott is good enough to win with ffs

Honestly, yeah. Like he's a bottom tier RB in this scenario, but we'd still win with him. Certainly not worth investing a premium pick at RB. Just pickup someone else's RB.

Fournette, Zeke, Kareem Hunt, Ingram, McKissic...all guys we can trash pick right now that would be fine (plus our already trash-picked Rashaad Penny).

 

[PALE PWNR]

Idk if I'm weird or not, but I am fine with Gainwell being the feature back.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Idk if I'm weird or not, but I am fine with Gainwell being the feature back.

I think what we have right now is fine. Would love to upgrade, but it's really not that important to spend a top pick on RB.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Boston Scott is good enough to win with ffs

People forget that Boston Scott is pretty much the same player as McCaffrey.

That was a fun argument to start the year last year.