OT: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): Don't Cry Because It's Over, Smile Because it Happened (Offseason - 2023)

[SnS]

I need to stop looking at some of these mocks.

 

[DancingPanther]

This defense is going to be decimated. It was a fun season anyway

 

[Jtown]

comp picks for bradbery, cjgj, hargrave, maybe tj,

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Can’t remember the last guy they franchised.

Howie has been talking about comp picks for next year’s draft so be prepared for a lot of guys to walk. CJGJ is a bit of a loose cannon too so there’s that also.

I think they're basically all walking. All he's talked about is learning about not letting sentiment get in the way and comp picks.

I used to think Graham was staying. Then I looked at the EDGEs in free agency. Someone like Cleveland is giving that man a deal they can't match.

 

[DancingPanther]

I think they're basically all walking. All he's talked about is learning about not letting sentiment get in the way and comp picks.

I used to think Graham was staying. Then I looked at the EDGEs in free agency. Someone like Cleveland is giving that man a deal they can't match.

Jojo can you build a conference winning defense in an offseason? I mean I guess they kind of just did it? I'm nervous

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Jojo can you build a conference winning defense in an offseason? I mean I guess they kind of just did it? I'm nervous

Their cap management is fantastic, as we all know. But this year is the one where they really can't shift that much money around. It feels like a reloading year to me. And it would make sense. They need to reassemble around not having a rookie scale QB.

 

[JoemAvs]

This defense is going to be barren next season I fear. It was a fun season anyway

I mean they sucked hard in the Superbowl anyways.

I would not be shocked if Howies plan is to penny pinch a bit on D going forward to compensate for the huge Hurts deal that is probably already in the pipeline and just heavily focus on O.

A serviceable D with a great O seems like what you want in this league right now (if you can't afford to be great everywhere of course).

BG probably needs to walk tbh. I don't think he will want to take a huge paycut after his 10 sack season and we can't pay a rotational DE 10m anylonger. Those days are over IMO. Same goes for Fletch.
Reddick and Sweat will probably have to play more snaps going forward like most other starting DEs in the league do as well.

 

[Halladay]

Their cap management is fantastic, as we all know. But this year is the one where they really can't shift that much money around. It feels like a reloading year to me. And it would make sense. They need to reassemble around not having a rookie scale QB.

The NFC is so terrible that I don't like the idea of a reloading year though and potentially them just throwing the year away.

 

[Kermit the Prog]

I need to stop looking at some of these mocks.

Mock drafts have always been - and will always be - mind-numbingly dumb, to me. React to whomever is actually selected, sure, but to get twisted up about what some jabroni thinks is going to happen in something as wildly unpredictable as a draft? Pass.

 

[SnS]

Mock drafts have always been - and will always be - mind-numbingly dumb, to me. React to whomever is actually selected, sure, but to get twisted up about what some jabroni thinks is going to happen in something as wildly unpredictable as a draft? Pass.

I get it. But it’s just very disheartening seeing the panthers take Richardson or trade up and waste picks for Levis or Richardson even earlier.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

The NFC is so terrible that I don't like the idea of a reloading year though and potentially them just throwing the year away.

I get what you mean for sure. But I don't think they have the money to be a neutral field favorite over SF or Dallas right now. I'm probably in the minority in the fanbase there, and fair enough. No one is right or wrong.

There are seasonal outcomes that have them as not a favorite over the Lions either.

I get it. But it’s just very disheartening seeing the panthers take Richardson or trade up and waste picks for Levis or Richardson even earlier.

What do you think of Josh Allen and his development? This isn't a gotcha attempt. This is me trying to understand what you personally prioritize since your team is obviously getting a QB somehow.

 

[SnS]

I get what you mean for sure. But I don't think they have the money to be a neutral field favorite over SF or Dallas right now. I'm probably in the minority in the fanbase there, and fair enough. No one is right or wrong.

There are seasonal outcomes that have them as not a favorite over the Lions either.



What do you think of Josh Allen and his development? This isn't a gotcha attempt. This is me trying to understand what you personally prioritize since your team is obviously getting a QB somehow.

First off I’d say, id rather trade for a QB or use a stop gap than draft any of the top names of this draft. But if they are dead set on drafting a QB, I prefer Stroud or Young over the rest. It seems like Levis is going to need a year or so. And I just see Richardson in the ilk of a runner.

Secondly re: Allen, it doesn’t happen always like that. I can’t imagine anyone expected him to be where he is currently to what he was then. I also don’t trust the Panthers to develop someone.

 

[trostol]

moves like this from management are exactly why i stopped being a fan ages ago..i mean i get the reasoning behind it..but back then it was a bit worse because they were letting fan favorites and guys who could still play really well..just walk

 

[JojoTheWhale]

First off I’d say, id rather trade for a QB or use a stop gap than draft any of the top names of this draft. But if they are dead set on drafting a QB, I prefer Stroud or Young over the rest. It seems like Levis is going to need a year or so. And I just see Richardson in the ilk of a runner.

Secondly re: Allen, it doesn’t happen always like that. I can’t imagine anyone expected him to be where he is currently to what he was then. I also don’t trust the Panthers to develop someone.

I definitely understand not trusting the Panthers to develop someone.

Allen was clearly put into an ideal situation with excellent coaching and will probably always be a roller coaster. Then again, so is basically everyone not named Mahomes to various degrees. The big interesting question on the QBs to me is who are the guys without exceptional physical traits that turned into someone you're dying to give 50+. If the only path to that is Joe Burrow levels of prospect, I'd rather take a big swing at the position. It's also not my job on the line.

I don't know if this helps in regard to Richardson, but I think his floor is being wildly undersold. Super high-end rushing ability in QBs raises their floor even more than their ceiling.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

moves like this from management are exactly why i stopped being a fan ages ago..i mean i get the reasoning behind it..but back then it was a bit worse because they were letting fan favorites and guys who could still play really well..just walk

Was this before or after the Donovan Smith news broke?

He's not good. I'm just watching Tampa heading straight for the top of the mocks next year. They'll be fun with whichever one of those guys they get.

 

[trostol]

Was this before or after the Donovan Smith news broke?

He's not good. I'm just watching Tampa heading straight for the top of the mocks next year. They'll be fun with whichever one of those guys they get.

did they drop him? good..dude's been ass for a few years now lol

 

[DancingPanther]

Their cap management is fantastic, as we all know. But this year is the one where they really can't shift that much money around. It feels like a reloading year to me. And it would make sense. They need to reassemble around not having a rookie scale QB.

 

[SnS]

I definitely understand not trusting the Panthers to develop someone.

Allen was clearly put into an ideal situation with excellent coaching and will probably always be a roller coaster. Then again, so is basically everyone not named Mahomes to various degrees. The big interesting question on the QBs to me is who are the guys without exceptional physical traits that turned into someone you're dying to give 50+. If the only path to that is Joe Burrow levels of prospect, I'd rather take a big swing at the position. It's also not my job on the line.

I don't know if this helps in regard to Richardson, but I think his floor is being wildly undersold. Super high-end rushing ability in QBs raises their floor even more than their ceiling.

Which is why I’d almost rather lean to us getting a QB through trade or FA rather than draft and try and develop…

Exactly. Allen was put in a great situation to get the best out of who he is. Mahomes is on another planet. I’m sure more teams are going to start getting their franchise QB through the draft, but I don’t know if picking at 9 this draft will give us the franchise QB we need or can develop(probably won’t be able too).

I don’t know if I see franchise potential at this stage. But who knows. They’re all kids.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Have to imagine that means he's staying in Baltimore absent a trade, yeah?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Ok, this is probably letting someone else negotiate for them, but who makes sense?

Carolina has to be named in every QB discussion. Washington should be. Atlanta. Detroit. New England would be hilarious? The Raiders?

If you're Howie and you're going to sign Hurts, you probably have to be willing to pay a little more to get him in before this gets finished.

*Edit* I forgot Miami.

 

[SnS]

Ok, this is probably letting someone else negotiate for them, but who makes sense?

Carolina has to be named in every QB discussion. Washington should be. Atlanta. Detroit. New England would be hilarious? The Raiders?

If you're Howie and you're going to sign Hurts, you probably have to be willing to pay a little more to get him in before this gets finished.

Atlanta I think I saw.

Pipe dream for Carolina.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Atlanta I think I saw.

Pipe dream for Carolina.

I completely forgot about Miami. That's now my leader in the non-Ravens category.

You have got to get your QB contract done before a decrepit Stephen Ross blows up the market.

 

[Chinatown88]

Ok, this is probably letting someone else negotiate for them, but who makes sense?

Carolina has to be named in every QB discussion. Washington should be. Atlanta. Detroit. New England would be hilarious? The Raiders?

If you're Howie and you're going to sign Hurts, you probably have to be willing to pay a little more to get him in before this gets finished.

*Edit* I forgot Miami.

Paul Holmgren

 

[Chinatown88]

Daniel Jones deal apparently done.



If this starts with a 4 for AAV I'm gonna lose it.



GET ME OUT OF THIS QB MARKET



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