Confirmed with Link: [PHI/LA] Vincent Lecavalier & Luke Schenn for Jordan Weal & 3rd round pick

[Buddy The Elf]

Just cap space to Aquire a better player.

I'm guessing DL doesn't want to part with the assets required to get someone better. The way the team is playing right now, they don't need to add anything except depth just in case and that's what this is.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Fun facts of the day:

Lecavalier played in 7 games this season for the Flyers.

They were 0-6-1 in those games.

Lecavalier had one assist and was a -1 overall.

The Flyers were outscored by 18 goals in those 7 games.

Flyers also suck more than a vacuum and Lindsay Lohan.

 

[mashedpotato]

OMG - The leafs traded clarkson for whom!? Jesus this is the best day of my .... oh wait.

Wrong thread but same sentiment.

 

[Bad Goalie]

Losing Weal is not a big deal. I don't agree with the people on this board that think he sucks or will not be in the NHL for a long time. Weal has skill and will be fine in the bottom six for the right team, like Vey in Vancouver.

The absolute only downside to this trade is that we will have no more moves to make at the trade deadline unless we make a trade involving Brown, which likely wont happen because teams wont want him and/or the Kings wont trade their captain with a big point lead in the division. Basically, say hello to your Kings playoff team (which I am okay with).

Except the Canucks tried to use him on the PP and second line. He was waived and sent to utica of the AHL. He's back up now because Suuter had a sports hernia operated on, Vey will be back in Utica where he did not play well either before being recalled. DL won that trade.

 

[TonySCV]

DL: "This is a good deal for Philadelphia. This works for them. Hopefully this works for both of us like every deal should."

oh Dean... you're so modest.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

You can see Doughty played with Schenn in 07-08 WJC and in 08-09 on Team Canada at the World Championships...maybe Schenn was better 6 years ago, but hopefully
the Kings and change make him a better player.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8474568

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8474563

 

[go4hockey]

Well this one has me scratching my head but we will see how it works out. I have blind faith in Dean and hope it works well for us. IN DEAN I TRUST.

 

[Jason Lewis]

This isn't that bad. Low-risk high-reward win-now move.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Jaso...avalier-and-Luke-Schenn-from-Flyers/179/73797

 

[KingsFan7824]

Just cap space to Aquire a better player.

That's the abstract, but who is that better player? Maybe this is the best the Kings can do when taking all variables into the equation. Not to mention the Kings are 3rd overall in the league at the moment, and a lot of the slots are filled. 2 centers, 2 defensemen, 1 goalie, at least 1 scoring winger, a big guy on the wing, and a bunch of role guys.

A cap means there will be a hole somewhere. The teams that win adapt to and overcome that weakness.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Agree that there's still some upside with Schenn.

As much as some posters here hate it, Sutter/DL love having a PK/SAH guy. I'm just glad he's bottom pairing rather than 2nd pairing, and it will be nice to ease the PK loads of our top guys. I think that's better than rolling three risky puck movers in the bottom pairing.

 

[TonySCV]

Sheen would be interesting on the Kings.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Two more years of Lecavalier? There's probably salary retention.

vinny l has reportedly said he is done at the end of this year

 

[Pandaman11]

Whaaaaaaaaat???

I've made fun of Holmgren for signing Lecavalier to that deal for years, now we trade for that?

And Schenn seems to be terrible too according to what I've read at times.

Well at least the Flyers retain 50%, Vinny wants to retire and Schenn becomes a UFA...

 

[bob77]

I think Forbort will be back up at some point and playing. I'm surprised he hasn't been sent down more to get him development minutes in AHL. This will benefit him. As far as whether Schenn is better than McBain, Ehrhoff, or Forbort is going to be interesting. He hasn't been that good for awhile now. It does give the Kings another body. LA has gone a long stretch here without any D injuries. Some teams seem like they have one a week. So, it can't hurt to add some depth and experience, but I really doubt Schenn adds anything, and perhaps could be a dumpster fire, like he has been lately.

 

[Pandaman11]

vinny l has reportedly said he is done at the end of this year

But if he retires, aren't we facing cap penalties or something? Or when exactly does that apply?

 

[Reclamation Project]

But if he retires, aren't we facing cap penalties or something? Or when exactly does that apply?

Nope. Zero penalty.

 

[gnarls barkley]

Late to the party, but I think this is a sneaky good trade by Dean.

Lot of people overlooking the peripherals on this move, and it perfectly fits the MO a lot of folks have been talking about - win now.

We lost 0 - that's a zero - roster players, and all that went the other way is a prospect that was never going to play on the Kings anyways and a 3rd rounder. Neither of those things help us win this year.

We gained the long-rumored Matt Greene replacement, and not only is he relatively young with upside, but there's a crazy amount of flexibility contract-wise since he's UFA after this season. LeCavalier could either be boom or bust, but worst case scenario he's an additional body and (hopefully) good locker room presence, especially for guys like Shore/AA/Mersch.

Only real downside here is cap space was eaten, but hopefully you were all aware that Dean almost certainly wouldn't have been able to make a splashy deadline move without sending a roster player back the other way to free up more cap anyways - and people forget that having cap space doesn't actually matter unless you can turn that money into tangible assets.

I'll say it again, sneaky sneaky good.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

But if he retires, aren't we facing cap penalties or something? Or when exactly does that apply?

Nope. Philly may, but we don't.

 

[ru4reals]

Being on a playoff team will motivate these two. The leaders of this team will show Vinny and Luke how it's done. Play good D or get sent out. Hopefully this will help resurrect their careers.

 

[Winger23]

But if he retires, aren't we facing cap penalties or something? Or when exactly does that apply?

It's been stated no recapture penalties and that he is retiring, not if.

 

[Keith Sweaty]

Agree. This has to be Deans worst move as our GM.

It is?!? Wow, we have a great GM!

 

[tsanuri]

Nope. Philly may, but we don't.

They won't either. Deal was signed after the new CBA went in effect and is less than 6 years. And it was not signed after he was 35+. All of which could cause issues.

 

[Fishhead]

Agree that there's still some upside with Schenn.

As much as some posters here hate it, Sutter/DL love having a PK/SAH guy. I'm just glad he's bottom pairing rather than 2nd pairing, and it will be nice to ease the PK loads of our top guys. I think that's better than rolling three risky puck movers in the bottom pairing.

Yep, he loves the spread the minutes around if he can.

What you hit on with balance is key. The Kings are most successful when they have a SAH paired with a puck mover. It wouldn't surprise me to see Ehrhoff's game take off a little bit, it loosens the reins a little bit when you know the other guy is a defense first type. Same with McBain.

The M&M's have been lights out for most the year anyways, our 2nd pairing is set. Picking up a guy that will allow other D to fall into their correct slot for a good price is a pretty good risk.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Skip in King of Prussia says the Flyers won this trade real big.

 

[tsanuri]

Trade and signing floodgates are opening up. Now Nash and CBJ.