Confirmed Trade: [PHI/BUF] Rasmus Ristolainen for Robert Hagg, 2021 1st round pick, 2023 2nd round pick

[SnS]

It'd be weird to trade that much for the guy and then not use one of his greatest strengths

I’m just saying, Ghost wasn’t even on the top PP over Ivan consistently.

 

[bossram]

If people aren't convinced that half the GMs in the NHL are just straight-up dumb, nothing will. The Philly and Ranger ends of these deals are insanely stupid, lmao.

Literally anybody could be an NHL GM. And probably do a better job.

 

[T REX]

One of the best top 4 D?

Not sure who said that but that is just not true.

Not even close to true. Wow.

Awful asset mangagement.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Seems like teams haven't learned the right lessons from Tampa's two straight cup wins. They won because they were more skilled than everyone else, not because they were more physical than anyone else.

There's no lesson to learn from Tampa anymore than the Lightning needed to learn lessons from St.Louis. Every cup winner does it his own way.

 

[mercury]

brutal

It looks a little less bad when you include Ellis for Patrick and Myers, but this is going to hurt for years.

 

[Michoulicious]

I’m just saying, Ghost wasn’t even on the top PP over Ivan consistently.

So, if I understand well, Fletcher just paid:

- 1st (#13 OA)
- 2 x 2nd
- 7th
- Hagg

... just to replace Gostisbehere by Ristolainen.

O. M. G.

 

[SnS]

So, if I understand well, Fletcher just paid:

- 1st (#13 OA)
- 2 x 2nd
- 7th
- Hagg

To replace Gostisbehere by Ristolainen.

O. M. G.

And I don’t think Risto is an upgrade.

 

[Buffalo Preds]

Sports are all about confidence. Risto playing on a better, maybe even a playoff calibre team will help significantly with his play and decision making. When you're losing every night and there's no one around you to help you get better you're in a hole you can't get out of. Risto finally has that chance.

You could literally say that about any member of the Sabres organization. It’s meaningless. The Sabres aren’t bad because there is a curse on the organization — they are bad because individuals responsible for the team’s success or failure were incapable of succeeding. Of course, there is a way to bracket off the context of a team’s aggregate failures from the performance of an individual. It’s called analytics, and according to analytics, Risto did not outplay the general failures of his teammates and coaching, but rather was a significant contributor to their failure.

Risto does some things very well, and it’s frustrating to see the real talent wasted. But even if the mental lapses can be fixed, he has technical flaws in his game that are hard for a guy about to turn 27 to fix. While I live in Buffalo, I’m not a Sabres fan, but I see them play a lot, and they play a lot of bad hockey. Watching Risto win a puck battle, but fail to spot a pass that would maintain possession, or even worse, to see a winger open and in a good position for an odd man rush but missing him badly and icing the puck is awful stuff. Get ready to pull your hair out.

 

[Flukeshot]

How could Fletcher not get Buffalo to take Ghost too. That's my main thing.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

...Montreal fans are forever indebted to Chuck Fletcher for making sure Bargain Bin didn't replace Weber with Ristolainen...we applaud you, good sir!!...

 

[Yatzhee]

I still chuckle a lot for all those on HF who were saying Risto was worth a 2nd, or worse.

You really have to just admit defeat here and confess your hockey acumen is horribly based on your emotions.

And if your amazed at this r8sto return, you ain't seen nothing yet, wait until the Eichel shoe dtops.

 

[supsens]

I still chuckle a lot for all those on HF who were saying Risto was worth a 2nd, or worse.

You really have to just admit defeat here and confess your hockey acumen is horribly based on your emotions.

And if your amazed at this r8sto return, you ain't seen nothing yet, wait until the Eichel shoe dtops.

I am not sure how a proven 26 year old monster of a dman isn't worth a first. This year nobody knows who the hell they are suppose to draft.

 

[tade]

Ristolainen as a player alone is worth 1st round pick imo, especially in this years draft (~late to mid range), the problem here is context - Flyers trading Gostisbehere for nothing to Arizona and on top of that adding 2nd round pick, also Risto being UFA next year doesn't help.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Definitely an overpay, especially if he doesnt extend but with Myers gone Risto fills the hole left at 2RD pretty well. Sanheim should be able to cover for him pretty well defensively. If they end of flipping Voracek now for like Tank then I would say this offseason was overall a pretty good retool for them despite trading #13 in the process.

 

[Blue Chip Prospect]

I’m sure this coaching staff is gonna Looove Risto

 

[yzerman]

this deal makes me pretty sure some Gms are loaded on speed or drunk when they pull the trigger and make deals

 

[Shmuffalo]

Oooof

Will miss Risto, but I can only think 90's frosted tips

 

[rams]

Risto will be a beast in Philadelphia.

 

[EichHart]

I think we take a goalie at 13

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Flyers trending in the wrong direction. Yikes

 

[57special]

What is this zombie voodoo mind control thing that Buffalo has over Fletcher?

 

[Nakawick]

Great trade for Buffalo, holy smokes.

 

[Jerkbait]

Not a Philly fan by any stretch but this is a good move. Brings size and nasty where its needed. In this division the flyers just got tougher to play against. They kept pace with the Rangers who got better and probably now ahead of Pittsburgh...Risto will make life miserable for crosby Jake and Malkin all year

 

[Bruce Granville]

Chuck Fletcher, destroying franchises since 2009.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

What is this zombie voodoo mind control thing that Buffalo has over Fletcher?

Incompetence breeds incompetence I guess