Confirmed Trade: [PHI/BUF] Rasmus Ristolainen for Robert Hagg, 2021 1st round pick, 2023 2nd round pick

[Sasso09]

This is going to be a huge test for analytics.

This isn't at all shocking to me. The type of players that play the minute risto plays are elite 1D Franchise type defenseman. Risto is NOT that and he plays for the worst team in the league. Take whoever #1 is in that list and put them in Buffalo and they'll fall to #20

 

[Fonzieleaf]

I think Chuck Fletcher is trying to get canned ASAP.

 

[Sasso09]

Why so much for a player who cant play defense and will be a UFA next year? With trades like this it is no wonder Flyers is such a crappy team.

? 1st seed in the east last year, significant almost every year.

 

[BusQuets]

I think Risto is seriously underrated, and he'll do well with Philadelphia. It's a good move for Buffalo, sure. But I'd say it's a win-win.

Ristolainen vastly outplayed Dahlin,Jokiharju,McGabe etc... and it think all of them would look good on proper teams. Ristolainen will do great in Philly i think.

 

[SI90]

I don’t get this from Philly. Keep your assets and try to make a push for Hamilton maybe. Ellis was a good acquisition but Risto is weak in his own end.

 

[SnS]

He can't possibly be used as much as he was in Buffalo.. You're aware he played more minutes than anyone right? They had the guy playing 1D, 25 minutes a night on the worst team in the league with no help.

He's playing less than 20 a night, guaranteed in Philly.

Lol. I wouldn’t be so sure about that.

 

[Pelle31]

? 1st seed in the east last year, significant almost every year.

Well our dumbass GM guarantees the only 1st place the Flyers will be fighting for in the next while is 1st overall in the draft. Such a dumbass.

 

[HanSolo]

The difference between Risto and Ghost is not a 1st, two 2nds, 7th and Robert Hagg. This is a gongshow of roster mismanagement. Holy shit.

 

[Go Wings]

In:
Ristolainen

Out:
Gostisbehere
Hagg
2021 1st
2022 2nd
2022 7th
2023 2nd

Trying to give Holland and Waddell a run for the Milbury award I see. Just awful.

 

[Sasso09]

Ways to look at this....

1. Are the Flyers Ristolainen away from being a true Cup contender this year?
2. Was it worth trading a 1st and 2nd for him with the risk he walks for nothing next year.
3. If they resign him, is he going to be worth his next contract?
4. Why aren't they pouring these pick resources into finding a goalie???

With Giroux and Couturier UFA's next year, if the Flyers don't win this year and they both leave (along with Risto), it could be very ugly there for years to come.

Couturier isn't going anywhere..risto will be signed for less than 5.4, likely a Larsson 4x4 deal, Giroux can be replaced at this point with his 8+M cap relief if he goes.

As long as Coots re signs they'll be fine, and he will

 

[SnS]

Well our dumbass GM guarantees the only 1st place the Flyers will be fighting for in the next while is 1st overall in the draft. Such a dumbass.

When he trades that pick later tonight for someone to “take on” Jake.

 

[The Podium]

Yuck, bad deal for Philly IMO

 

[Djp]

He can't possibly be used as much as he was in Buffalo.. You're aware he played more minutes than anyone right? They had the guy playing 1D, 25 minutes a night on the worst team in the league with no help.

He's playing less than 20 a night, guaranteed in Philly.

if you limit him to around 32% of ES/ PK and he plays on 1PP he should have good numbers.

Ellis is more the late game Dman you want on or playing primary against top line.

 

[Sasso09]

Well, the defensive corps is marginally better:

Provorov, Sanheim, Ellis, Risto, York/Zamula, Braun

In terms of assets, it's a disaster.

Marginally better? Come on.

 

[King'sPawn]

How is Francis, with all his cap space, unable to make a deal like this? Or the Ghost deal?

Is it really that important to milk the GMs more?

 

[SnS]

if you limit him to around 32% of ES/ PK and he plays on 1PP he should have good numbers.

Ellis is more the late game Dman you want on or playing primary against top line.

Risto will not be on the top PP.

 

[violaswallet]

I like this trade tbh: I think Risto is going to kill it on a decent team

 

[SnS]

Marginally better? Come on.

I think it’s worse.

 

[SnS]

I like this trade tbh: I think Risto is going to kill it on a decent team

Flyers aren’t that.

 

[BusQuets]

Provorov - Risto
Sanheim - Ellis

Philly has one of the best top4 in the league.

 

[jonlin]

I don’t get this from Philly. Keep your assets and try to make a push for Hamilton maybe. Ellis was a good acquisition but Risto is weak in his own end.

Risto WAS weak in his end, playing #1 against the oppositions top lines. In Philly he will be #3 and have less ice-time better players around him. I bet he will be much better in Philly.

 

[SnS]

Provorov - Risto
Sanheim - Ellis

Philly has one of the best top4 in the league.

Lol. Atrocious.

 

[SnS]

Risto WAS weak in his end, playing #1 against the oppositions top lines. In Philly he will be #3 and have less ice-time better players around him. I bet he will be much better in Philly.

Him and TravO are going to be a disaster in their own zone.

 

[SI90]

They gave up a top15 pick for a guy that has 1yr on his deal. I hope they’ve had contract negotiations before the trade was made. Any word on that?

 

[Turin]

This isn't at all shocking to me. The type of players that play the minute risto plays are elite 1D Franchise type defenseman. Risto is NOT that and he plays for the worst team in the league. Take whoever #1 is in that list and put them in Buffalo and they'll fall to #20

Ristolainen hasn’t played those minutes in 2 years and still is very not good.

 

[violaswallet]

Flyers aren’t that.

Yes you are: you've just revamped your D with 2 very good top 4 D and you have some decent forwards up front.