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Prospect Info: Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc. [The Fall 2022 Edition]
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deadhead
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Probably #53 or so in 2024, if a 1st rd pick doesn't sign, you get a 2nd rd pick the following draft, or something to that effect.
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No brainer to get a 2nd back for JOB. What can they get for JVR?
Yes, compensation for not signing a 1st pick is a 2nd, I think at the end of the round, but I could be wrong.
BernieParent
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Sure they do. Add it to the package to get someone to take Hayes' contract.
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BobbyClarkeFan16
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I see that Lyksell has been recalled. Still waiting for Forester to get a call. Getting ridiculous that he's playing well and no rewards.
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Gonna need you to flesh this out a little. Why is he our best option? What makes him a JAG instead of a bust?
deadhead
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Speed, solid compact body, good shot, average playmaking skills.
Guy whose upside is 3C but probably never gets past 4C.
But in a forechecking role, could probably be effective.
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Can't see the Flyers ever using him as a 4C.
deadhead
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Why? They used Laughton in that role for years.
5'11 176 at the combine, probably 190+ now, about the same size as Laughton.
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JOB doesn't fit the organization's idea of a 4C role. What if he's actually able to play there? Well, it's deeply unlikely we ever find out unless he specializes in pure defense at the expense of offense, board grinding, magically gains mythical veterans status, and starts binge eating.
deadhead
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What would determine whether JOB could cut it as a 4C is his attitude, if he thinks he's a finesse player who should be given a top 6 role, he's not a good fit, but Sedlak ain't no giant and they like him.
I think Torts' ideal 4th line would have players like Laughton, Allison, Cates, etc. Not necessarily since so much as 'tude.
Desnoyers and Wisdom should be good fits when they arrive.
I think Torts' ideal 4th line would have players like Laughton, Allison, Cates, etc. Not necessarily since so much as 'tude.
Desnoyers and Wisdom should be good fits when they arrive.
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Completely false. That's not how this team works. Your predictions will immediately become far more accurate once you realize that.
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IF dysfunctional determines how this team works, then I think that is true.
The question for me....why with all the money in Comcast World, can they hire such incompetently stupid management?
Just because Fletcher graduate Harvard does not make a smart person or even a logical person. Custer graduated from a fairly good school in the US Military Academy, but he made some really bonehead mistakes.
renberg
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I don’t believe that Comcast is unaware of the mess that the Flyers are. They’re a bad look for the organization. Financially they are a hit in several ways.
ASP probably is on to something regarding a shakeup coming in the near future. He does have some sources in the organization. I doubt that he would be floating such things without some credible sources of information.
The questions about this are when and how deep of a cut? On (1) I’d bet on after Christmas; perhaps around New Year’s. (2) Fletcher out completely and Briere in. Lombardi to stick around for a while. Flahr gone. The new person hired in from Washington to handle the business side of the franchise. More changes to come in scouting and development during the upcoming offseason.
He reminds me of a more talented Darrell powe. While that's a huge fall of from my early Logan couture comparisons. It's the grit in his game that has made him so injury prone.
Strawberry Fields
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Of course they do. Trade it for Erik Gudbranson
Tripod
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Why in the world would you rather a 4th liner.....than a 2nd rd pick?
Makes no sense.
mja
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I'm pretty sure deady had an ancestor with the 7th who kept on insisting every was fine and that Custer totally knew what he was doing right up until he was scalped.
deadhead
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I think the core of the problem was the Snider legacy, the so-called "Flyers way," which worked with no or a loose cap, but not in the modern era. But look at the men making or influencing the decisions since Snider died, Holmgren fires Lavi, hires Berube, hires Hextall, fires Hextall, hires Fletcher and rubber stamps AV. Then Clarke becomes Scott's wormtongue. Both pushing essentially the same thing, if only we can get back to Flyer's hockey, we don't need to rebuild, just bring in the "right" players and turn the ship around.
And Comcast probably was reluctant to interfere with an established winning and profitable franchise. Especially because they didn't want to look like the corporate parent screwing up what Snider built. And Scott probably came in with that attitude, and Clarke kept convincing him that the fix was just around the corner.
#53 or so isn't that valuable, a solid 4C with 3C upside is probably the best you could expect unless you get really lucky.
It really comes down to how JOB finishes the season, playing for a major college program if he shows improvement they'll probably sign him, if he stagnates, take the pick.
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I have no idea why you insist on overemphasizing Holmgren over Clarke, as if Clarke isn't also responsible for Homer.
Player over mystery box especially as I see some upside there still. I guess it's how you view second round picks. Allison is very much like job in that injuries have shaped much of his development. He doesn't have the upside of brink but I think he's likely to play more games than ginning. Not unlike ratcliffe he should be a late bloomer. The issue I foresaw with O'Brien was him finding confidence as the talent gap closed up but he's shown that competitive mindset.
deadhead
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But Homer had the titles, therefore he made all the decisions, or so I've been told.
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