Prospect Info: Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc. [Mid-April Edition]

[FLYguy3911]

I think it's a fair statistical musing: how many NHL players had similar assist rates? I'm legitimately wondering what the most extreme outliers look like.

You won't find any. I think I looked at this last year and Tippett was at the extreme end and he was close to 50/50 in the end which is still rare to find impact NHLers in that bucket.

It's just such a negative outlier, that I feel pretty confident assuming there is a serious flaw in his game. He's done it across multiple seasons now. With a bad team. With a powerhouse team. I hope they don't think he can play in the AHL next year.

Also weird they took two late birthdays from the Q in back-to-back 7th rounds. Gendron at least looks like he has one redeeming quality.

 

[deadhead]

Last year Caufield had 26 goals, 10 apples in 46 games

 

[Magua]

Caufield is one of the best pure shooters to come out of the draft in recent history. His D-year assist numbers were as brutal as his goal scoring was record setting. But I don't think anyone viewed him as one note or lacking skill. He was always good at creating his own shot. At Wisconsin, without Hughes, his assist rate was fine; he won a Hobey Baker at Gendron's age. He's also one of the most extreme goal side of the spectrum NHLers. He's still an outlier.

So, yeah, I'm not sure comparing a 7th rounder's age 19 QMJHL season to Caufield is where it's at. If your comparison is to someone more pedigreed with a uniquely special skill-set, it's usually dead on arrival.

 

[Curufinwe]

I hope the goalscoring works in the NHL. Feel like the Flyers haven't had a good cherry picker in a while

I feel comfortable predicting Gendron will never score 30 goals in NHL like Simmonds, TK, Couturier or Giroux have done. Or even 25 in a season, which Tippett, JVR and Schenn managed in the past decade.

 

[deadhead]

Caufield is one of the best pure shooters to come out of the draft in recent history. His D-year assist numbers were as brutal as his goal scoring was record setting. But I don't think anyone viewed him as one note or lacking skill. He was always good at creating his own shot. At Wisconsin, without Hughes, his assist rate was fine; he won a Hobey Baker at Gendron's age. He's also one of the most extreme goal side of the spectrum NHLers. He's still an outlier.

So, yeah, I'm not sure comparing a 7th rounder's age 19 QMJHL season to Caufield is where it's at. If your comparison is to someone more pedigreed with a uniquely special skill-set, it's usually dead on arrival.

Just saying if you're a top goal scorer, one can make allowances.

Gendron had a great D+1 season (though age wise more D+2), period. 69 goals in 76 games including the POs.
In 34 games with Gatineau he was +31, and +6 in 13 PO games. So he's not just cherry picking out there and leaving teammates out to dry.

Doesn't mean he doesn't need to improve a lot of aspects of his game,
He'll be in LHV this season, but doesn't turn 20 until December, so I'll be happy if he can hold his own in the AHL.
If he's going to make it to the NHL, I suspect 2024-25 will be his key season in the AHL when he needs to make a big jump after acclimating to the next level.

Some notes on Flyers prospects from an outsider:

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[LegionOfDoom91]

Caufield is one of the best pure shooters to come out of the draft in recent history. His D-year assist numbers were as brutal as his goal scoring was record setting. But I don't think anyone viewed him as one note or lacking skill. He was always good at creating his own shot. At Wisconsin, without Hughes, his assist rate was fine; he won a Hobey Baker at Gendron's age. He's also one of the most extreme goal side of the spectrum NHLers. He's still an outlier.

So, yeah, I'm not sure comparing a 7th rounder's age 19 QMJHL season to Caufield is where it's at. If your comparison is to someone more pedigreed with a uniquely special skill-set, it's usually dead on arrival.

I was thinking Auston Matthews personally.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

If they get anything out of a 7th pick then it’s a lottery ticket. If he makes it good for him, if he doesn’t then he goes down like most 7th round picks as not quite good enough. But he seems like a guy people should root for with everything stacked against him

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[mr4tno]

Flyers prospect pool was rated pretty high. What does it look like without Mikov or Gauthier because I do not see either one ever suiting up for the Flyers.

 

[deadhead]

Flyers prospect pool was rated pretty high. What does it look like without Mikov or Gauthier because I do not see either one ever suiting up for the Flyers.

Gauthier will go pro after this college season, you never see top picks hold out for four years instead of going pro.
It happens with college players who blossom late and are looking at maybe one season before becoming a free agent.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Flyers prospect pool was rated pretty high. What does it look like without Mikov or Gauthier because I do not see either one ever suiting up for the Flyers.

? No shot Cutter plays 2 more years at BC after this

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[Deadpool8812]

What are the chances of the IIHF siding with the Flyers here?

 

[Beef Invictus]

This is gonna go over great

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

What are the chances of the IIHF siding with the Flyers here?

I think it's more, will Russia actually give a shit what the IIHF says considering their current ban from any IIHF events?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Gauthier is gonna sign. He stands way too much to lose money wise by not doing so.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I don’t know what Gauthier’s feelings are but he’s too far in his development to wait out his four years & pass up NHL checks. It made sense going back to college for another year both development & personal wise opposed to playing on a lousy Flyers team for the bulk of the year. BC & Team USA at the WJC’s should both be potential championship caliber teams.

In general if you got a young player with considerable investment in who’s not really enamored with the team they get drafted by whether on or off the ice they still sign & abide their time picking up NHL checks before forcing the issue when they gain more leverage. Both PLD & Tkachuk are probably the examples of that.

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[FLYguy3911]

Pretty good B/C team.

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[Magua]

Worst comes to worst, Bump should play in Mestis.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It sounds like Bump could be headed to Minnesota with Cooley leaving a late spot open to be filled now. They’re at 12 forwards on their roster currently.

 

[Doodootheclown]

 

[VladDrag]

I am not trying to be down on Cutter, but I would really like to see something else from him.

We all know his shot is elite.

 

[tnfrs]

I am not trying to be down on Cutter, but I would really like to see something else from him.

We all know his shot is elite.

2 of the last goals in a blowout game, its meaningless points. No assists. worst time of the game to show up. He's one of the oldest players there and skipped dev camp for the showcase, but hes not really showcasin though