Player Discussion Peyton Krebs C/LW -- Re-signed 2 years, $1.45m AAV

Fjordy

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When you take him away from Mitts and Olofsson, he starts to look good, what a coincidence. :sarcasm:
 

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Was so happy to see Krebsy get his 1st last night. I've been a big fan of his for a while and would like nothing more to see him succeed in Buffalo. Hope the flood gates (relatively speaking) open up for him after that game.

Once he gets stronger, I suspect those are the types of goals we'll see more often from him. Stripping the puck from the opposition to then set up a team mate or score on his own.
 

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Krebs has hardly played with those two.
According to Frozen, Krebs/Olo/Mitts is his 2nd most common line combo fwiw. I know he's gotten more with Girgs and Okposo, but that isn't much of an upgrade in truth.

Pretty telling, he has 1 point and an 85.7CF% with Quinn and Peterka in less than 15mins played, pointless with Olo/Mitts in over 45mins, 52.9CF%.
 

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According to Frozen, Krebs/Olo/Mitts is his 2nd most common line combo fwiw. I know he's gotten more with Girgs and Okposo, but that isn't much of an upgrade in truth.

Pretty telling, he has 1 point and an 85.7CF% with Quinn and Peterka in less than 15mins played, pointless with Olo/Mitts in over 45mins, 52.9CF%.
Ok, another way to put it is that Krebs has been on the ice with 37+71 for 18% of his total ice time...so not much. Krebs has all of 4 pts so trying to infer anything about his pt totals by who he's played with is a fool's errand, other than stating the 3rd line has struggled regardless of who's been there. This is all obfuscating the simple fact that on video, Mittelstadt has been far more defensively responsible than pretty much any winger he's been assigned with. Making that line better should start with replacing the worst players, not the one that's at least playing decent defense, not the one that doesn't have a clear cut replacement to take his role right now. When other guys step up and show they can be a difference and make Mittelstadt expendable, we can start being serious about a press box stint or trade.
 

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Ok, another way to put it is that Krebs has been on the ice with 37+71 for 18% of his total ice time...so not much. Krebs has all of 4 pts so trying to infer anything about his pt totals by who he's played with is a fool's errand, other than stating the 3rd line has struggled regardless of who's been there. This is all obfuscating the simple fact that on video, Mittelstadt has been far more defensively responsible than pretty much any winger he's been assigned with. Making that line better should start with replacing the worst players, not the one that's at least playing decent defense, not the one that doesn't have a clear cut replacement to take his role right now. When other guys step up and show they can be a difference and make Mittelstadt expendable, we can start being serious about a press box stint or trade.
Girgensons, Jost, Krebs, Asplund can all play decent defense in Mittelstadt's position
 
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Girgensons, Jost, Krebs, Asplund can all play decent defense in Mittelstadt's position
The front office went through the options of Larsson, Sheahan, and finally Jost to be the 4C. This is quite definitive to conclude that they don't like Girgensons or Asplund as 4C, so why would they want either to bump up into 3C duties? Krebs has very clearly struggled last season and so far this season. I really do have hopes for him, but he's not ready now. I'm not going on about it if you don't want to believe it.

So that eliminates every guy you listed except Jost, sort of. They want Jost at 4C because that's actually why they acquired him, but recently he's been up with Mitts as a way to get that line going (sacrificing his actual role on the team for now). If the organization thought those guys could take Mitts role, they would be there...and yet here we are.
 
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The front office went through the options of Larsson, Sheahan, and finally Jost to be the 4C. This is quite definitive to conclude that they don't like Girgensons or Asplund as 4C, so why would they want either to bump up into 3C duties? Krebs has very clearly struggled last season and so far this season. I really do have hopes for him, but he's not ready now. I'm not going on about it if you don't want to believe it.

So that eliminates every guy you listed except Jost, sort of. They want Jost at 4C because that's actually why they acquired him, but recently he's been up with Mitts as a way to get that line going (sacrificing his actual role on the team for now). If the organization thought those guys could take Mitts role, they would be there...and yet here we are.
That means he is playing 4C. That line has become the 4th line in the past couple of weeks.
 

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Was so happy to see Krebsy get his 1st last night. I've been a big fan of his for a while and would like nothing more to see him succeed in Buffalo. Hope the flood gates (relatively speaking) open up for him after that game.

Once he gets stronger, I suspect those are the types of goals we'll see more often from him. Stripping the puck from the opposition to then set up a team mate or score on his own.
My ceiling comp of Mike Richards stands.
 
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I think he would be as good as Mitts as 3C, of course, if they trade Olofsson or Mitts for a different type of winger.
 

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Love to see that he's figuring it out. Hopefully the goal tonight helps build his confidence for more soon.

Peeke looked a little upset there. Watched the puck slide in and decides to give Krebs a little shove up into his face. Glad Krebs just celebrated instead of bothering with him.
 

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Maybe a Richards that doesn't look to shoot like ever? That and Richards was much, much more of a dink on the ice than Krebs has shown.
Natural leader (Richards was pre….medication), straight ahead player, battler, playmaker. I think Krebs will find his shot in time. Reinhart did.
 
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That goal reminded my of the doggedness he showed predraft which had me feeling ROR type qualities, he can be a badger and takeaway guy. I didnt see the hockey IQ/playmaking ability back then as much, so thats been a bit of a revelation in his pro career for me when its clicked. Maybe a Connolly/ROR lovechild type. Biggest thing is maturing physically, we can't fast forward that unfortunately and its going to take some time.
 
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I haven't seen a player since Mike Richards that reminds me of Mike Richards. Just saying...
Krebs has one goal so we need to sell high on the kid. Heh.
 

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That goal reminded my of the doggedness he showed predraft which had me feeling ROR type qualities, he can be a badger and takeaway guy. I didnt see the hockey IQ/playmaking ability back then as much, so thats been a bit of a revelation in his pro career for me when its clicked. Maybe a Connolly/ROR lovechild type. Biggest thing is maturing physically, we can't fast forward that unfortunately and its going to take some time.
I remember him being a fantastic playmaker in the WHL. Honestly, that, his IQ and boardwork were his best assets I thought.
 
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Was so happy to see Krebsy get his 1st last night. I've been a big fan of his for a while and would like nothing more to see him succeed in Buffalo. Hope the flood gates (relatively speaking) open up for him after that game.

Once he gets stronger, I suspect those are the types of goals we'll see more often from him. Stripping the puck from the opposition to then set up a team mate or score on his own.
Yeah, once he gets stronger, much faster and improves his shot he could turn into something.
 

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Good to see Krebs continuing to work on keeping his game simple and now rewarded with his second goal in three games.
 

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Mike Richards early peak was a Selke Candidate. I dont see the Krebs comp whatsoever.

Matt Savoie offensive trajectory and profile so far is similar to Richards. Richards didnt light up the OHL but Captained some good Kitchener Rangers teams.
 

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Ok, another way to put it is that Krebs has been on the ice with 37+71 for 18% of his total ice time...so not much. Krebs has all of 4 pts so trying to infer anything about his pt totals by who he's played with is a fool's errand, other than stating the 3rd line has struggled regardless of who's been there. This is all obfuscating the simple fact that on video, Mittelstadt has been far more defensively responsible than pretty much any winger he's been assigned with. Making that line better should start with replacing the worst players, not the one that's at least playing decent defense, not the one that doesn't have a clear cut replacement to take his role right now. When other guys step up and show they can be a difference and make Mittelstadt expendable, we can start being serious about a press box stint.
He's played with two of Jost, Girgs, Okposo, Asplund, Mitts and Olo about 92% of the time. He's been unsuccessful when put with those players, most of which are garbage, replacement level players. While you're right, it's a small sample size, I think it's important to note he was dominant when coupled with better wingers. -Agree to disagree on Mitts, while it's not a great stat, there's a reason he's the lowest +/- of the forward group.
 

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