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Friedman: Pettersson says he’ll only re-sign if Canucks have successful season

PensandCaps said:
Well yah, the lazy NHL needs get involved in the community.

Football is expensive too. Lots of kids play it still. The NFL does a really good job at getting involved with youth leagues.
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Football isn’t nearly as expensive to get into as hockey. Now I can’t speak for the higher levels, but based purely at an entry level position where a kid will take interest into the sport
 
Dirty Dog said:
Award for first to bring up the Toronto Maple Leafs in a thread not about Toronto!

Bonus point for being on first page.

Bonus point for being about Matthews as well

Bonus point for framing it a manner that makes the leafs look better than the team at issue

Final score: @HockeyVirus wins, with a bonus score of 3!
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It’s pathological.
 
Friedman also says this

It’s important for Canucks fans not to interpret this as an imminent departure. Friedman said Pettersson seems inclined to ensure the team’s potential for success before going all-in.

Friedman ended with:
“One thing I would say to Canucks fans is, don’t take it as he’s not staying. I don’t believe that’s the case. Nothing in my conversation with him said to me that he’s not going to stay there. But I think he wants to make sure that the team, he believes he can win there before he’s going to commit to a long-term deal.”


This is likely just a player who will sign a shorter term contract, which we likely see more of going forward
 
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The Management said:
I've wondered what the Canucks are going to do for awhile. I'll defer to Western Conference fans, but they strike me as stuck in a bit of a quagmire. Talented young players, but unable to take that next step. Feels like they could use a fresh start. It's unfortunate folks don't think they'd embrace a rebuild, because they could get a tidy haul of futures.
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I think most of us would support a re-build in the right circumstances. If Pettersson left, for example, we might as well full embrace a re-build and start trying to get some futures packages for whatever players we can. Then, commit to a full scale re-build over the next 5 or 6 years.

Why most fans don't want a re-build in Vancouver is as follows:

1. We have the frame work of a good team. We have a 1C, 2C, 1D, 1G all locked up. And, most of our bad contracts are about to expire, so you would think we'd be in a reasonable place to compete. Teams with all those positions filled with young upcoming players don't normally go all in on a re-build.

2. We WANTED to re-build back in 2013, but instead, we did this shitty "re-tool" that has pretty much wasted everyone's time for the past 10 years. As such, we're getting impatient, we want to win now and not wait 5-10 more years. With that said, that just might be the way it has to be. There's no point in crying over spilled milk, it's better to write off the time spent and start again. With that said, that would be IF Pettersson leaves, from my viewpoint.

Personally, I think they're going to get something done with Pettersson. And, I actually think the Canucks aren't going to be half bad this year. But hey, maybe call me an optimist :P Haha
 
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Xirik said:
Teams who have the assets and cap to trade for Pettersson

-Habs
-Coyotes
-Kraken
-Blackhawks
-Preds
-Flyers
-Sabres

Maybe
-Wings
-Blues

If he wants to be in the playoffs quickly it would be

-Kraken
-Sabres
-Wings
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Sens could make room for and have assets for Pettersson.
 
Xirik said:
Teams who have the assets and cap to trade for Pettersson

-Habs
-Coyotes
-Kraken
-Blackhawks
-Preds
-Flyers
-Sabres

Maybe
-Wings
-Blues

If he wants to be in the playoffs quickly it would be

-Kraken
-Sabres
-Wings
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If Pettersson truly forces a trade, 31 other teams will all have the assets/cap space to trade for him. Some of the trades would be ugly, but that’s what you get when a player knowingly is gone
 
Three On Zero said:
Football isn’t nearly as expensive to get into as hockey. Now I can’t speak for the higher levels, but based purely at an entry level position where a kid will take interest into the sport
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Idk, it was pretty expensive for me. it's not as expensive as hockey, but it's still cost a good penny.
 
i expect vancouver will miss the playoffs and he stays still, much ado about nothing
 
PensandCaps said:
Idk, it was pretty expensive for me. it's not as expensive as hockey, but it's still cost a good penny.
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Too many factors I guess.

I know growing up through school, you could play football all the way through grade 12 and your equipment was provided. If you wanted to get into hockey that wasn’t the case. You were responsible for buying all of your own equipment.
 
Xirik said:
Teams who have the assets and cap to trade for Pettersson

-Habs
-Coyotes
-Kraken
-Blackhawks
-Preds
-Flyers
-Sabres

Maybe
-Wings
-Blues

If he wants to be in the playoffs quickly it would be

-Kraken
-Sabres
-Wings
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Could Ottawa take a swing maybe?
 
5 full seasons and he's not convinced they can build a winner, I'd say the writing is on the wall
 
Burnitdown said:
5 full seasons and he's not convinced they can build a winner, I'd say the writing is on the wall
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The Benning effect


4 things in life are certain. Death, Taxes, Canucks will never draft 1st overall and Canucks will never win the cup
 
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CascadiaPuck said:
Guy wants to win. I have no problem with these comments.
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He started in 18-19 season with a strong season at nearly a ppg while missing some games with a concussion and a knee.

19-20 covid year, but they qualified for the play in and won. Lost to a much better LV team.

20-21 team starts slow and is playing catchup the whole shortened season. Team contracts Covid. Opt to walk from Tanev and Toffolli for Schmidt and keeping Virtanen and signing Veteran Holtby in net. Could have bought out Sutter, but owner didn't want to do that.

21-22 major off-season changes with OEL, Garland, additions, but ran it all back with the coaches who all had expired contracts and brought Jim Benning back. Disasterous start and everyone is fired. Bruce brings the team close but catchup all season. JR is hired.

22-23 PA is hired and they clearly didn't want to bring Bruce bad, but didn't have the guts to let him go and bring in their own HC. Another bad start and Bruce is fired.

So, Petey has gone through 3 straight brutal starts where he's playing the final 3/4 of the season with no real shot at the PO. Not like they were acquiring draft picks or young players during that time to be better in 2023-2024 season.

So, yeah, he wants to win. Don't blame him. Why tie yourself to an organization that hasn't shown an ability to assess the roster correctly and execute on their plan.
 
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Would definitely love to have him on T.O. if he would sign long term. It would take Nylander+ and Willy would need to be willing to sign in Vancouver.
 
Luck 6 said:
I think most of us would support a re-build in the right circumstances. If Pettersson left, for example, we might as well full embrace a re-build and start trying to get some futures packages for whatever players we can. Then, commit to a full scale re-build over the next 5 or 6 years.

Why most fans don't want a re-build in Vancouver is as follows:

1. We have the frame work of a good team. We have a 1C, 2C, 1D, 1G all locked up. And, most of our bad contracts are about to expire, so you would think we'd be in a reasonable place to compete. Teams with all those positions filled with young upcoming players don't normally go all in on a re-build.

2. We WANTED to re-build back in 2013, but instead, we did this shitty "re-tool" that has pretty much wasted everyone's time for the past 10 years. As such, we're getting impatient, we want to win now and not wait 5-10 more years. With that said, that just might be the way it has to be. There's no point in crying over spilled milk, it's better to write off the time spent and start again. With that said, that would be IF Pettersson leaves, from my viewpoint.

Personally, I think they're going to get something done with Pettersson. And, I actually think the Canucks aren't going to be half bad this year. But hey, maybe call me an optimist :P Haha
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I appreciate your insight, thank you. That's why I come to this site.

I definitely think you're on the precipice on being a playoff team, due to all those factors you listed in Item #1. Those are the very pieces, though, that could also fuel the engine of an aggressive rebuild (if the appetite were there among ownership / management).

Definitely understand your optimism, though. If Matthews decided he wasn't going to re-sign, that would have pretty much triggered a rebuild in Toronto (or a clumsy retool). At the end of the day there's nothing better than playoff hockey, and rebuilds are never guaranteed. I hope you guys get back to the postseason soon.
 
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ujju2 said:
Could Ottawa take a swing maybe?
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I assume that Canucks would want a at least a

60pt center
Picks
Prospects

Norris+Grieg + Kleven + Senators 2024 1st + Wings 2024 1st?

Ottawa could do it but I don't see it being the best offer the Canucks could get or might harm the Senators more then help it.
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As to the current Canucks getting into the playoffs, I don't really see it happening other then a squeek in.

Yes they have center depth and a better defense but

-Boeser is a gentle breeze from being injured
-Garland isn't preforming well
- Mikeyev isn't that great
-Other then Leker there really isn't any other prospects that are going to be better then the wingers above.

Thats a lot of things to fix even if they go all in at the deadline and are buyers.
 
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looks like Toronto is the only Canadian City that can keep good players.

in 3 seasons Edmonton will have no one.
 
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