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Friedman: Pettersson says he’ll only re-sign if Canucks have successful season

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To Chicago:
:hawks
-Elias Pettersson

To Vancouver:
:nucks
-2024 TBL 1st round pick
-2025 TOR 1st round pick
-Lukas Reichel
-Nazar/Moore
-Allan/Vlasic/EDM

Most I would pay.
 
TLEH said:
To Chicago:
:hawks
-Elias Pettersson

To Vancouver:
:nucks
-2024 TBL 1st round pick
-2025 TOR 1st round pick
-Lukas Reichel
-Nazar/Moore
-Allan/Vlasic/EDM

Most I would pay.
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Not bad but not great as the Canucks wouldn’t be getting anyone that can step in as a top 6 centre, which they will need in Pettersson’s absence.
 
If Elias gets traded, these teams will be calling for his services.

Boston
Chicago (if they want to speed up the rebuild, a Bedard-Pettersson 1-2 punch would be lethal for the next 10 years)
Carolina
Seattle
NYR
Nashville
 
TLEH said:
Guys like him don't come on the market very often. I would be all in on acquiring him.
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if he wants to break the Bank, what do you do?

14 M, 14.5 M, 15 M can handcuff the team for the 8 years he is collecting it.

I think everyone noticed that, top heavy teams were not that successful.. Yes, Vegas and the cup, but they buried serious cap dollars on LTIR..

Toronto, Edmonton.. and Colorado started paying serious coin... nada.. Calgary is now a sinking ship with its top heavy structure.

This guy is going to be the poster child for the new NHL. We will see how his situation is handled.
 
Beech said:
if he wants to break the Bank, what do you do?

14 M, 14.5 M, 15 M can handcuff the team for the 8 years he is collecting it.

I think everyone noticed that, top heavy teams were not that successful.. Yes, Vegas and the cup, but they buried serious cap dollars on LTIR..

Toronto, Edmonton.. and Colorado started paying serious coin... nada.. Calgary is now a sinking ship with its top heavy structure.

This guy is going to be the poster child for the new NHL. We will see how his situation is handled.
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The problem isn't generally guys making that much.

Edmonton's problem isn't McDavid making 12. Its Nurse making 9.5. Hawks problem (at first) wasn't Toews making 10.5. It was Seabrook making almost 7.

Never really saw Colorado having cap problems, they just lost their captain and had injuries. Off year. Still were a playoff team.
 
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SeanMoneyHands said:
I disagree, Bedard is already the new poster child for the new NHL.
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sorry, I meant poster boy for contracts and how they are handled.

will he get 14-15 M ?

Or will teams reel back an hold at 12-13 to try and flatten their salary structure.

I believe that we are in a new NHL. One that is either NBA like..top heavy, pay serious coin.. or the exact opposite.. flatten high end contracts.

one of these two models will take hold.
 
Beech said:
sorry, I meant poster boy for contracts and how they are handled.

will he get 14-15 M ?

Or will teams reel back an hold at 12-13 to try and flatten their salary structure.

I believe that we are in a new NHL. One that is either NBA like..top heavy, pay serious coin.. or the exact opposite.. flatten high end contracts.

one of these two models will take hold.
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Pettersson, as good as he is and yes he's elite but he's not even in the same tier as guys like Matthews, Drai, McDavid, MacKinnon so I think he should be paid less.
 
TLEH said:
The problem isn't generally guys making that much.

Edmonton's problem isn't McDavid making 12. Its Nurse making 9.5. Hawks problem (at first) wasn't Toews making 10.5. It was Seabrook making almost 7.

Never really saw Colorado having cap problems, they just lost their captain and had injuries. Off year. Still were a playoff team.
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part of the same continim.

you cannot pay McDavid 12 and change and beat Nurse down to 8!!!.. Nurse may not be as willing to "play hard, or throw the gloves off when McDavid is being abused"

Start paying big dollars to top end, you now must pay top dollar to that 2nd and 3rd tier top end.. and now you are out of money and you're finished.

Boston did not win as many cups as they should have, but they reached 3 finals in the Bergeron era.. Take a good look at their salary structure.. Unbelievable flat and unbelievable low. Ditto for Pitts.
 
TLEH said:
To Chicago:
:hawks
-Elias Pettersson

To Vancouver:
:nucks
-2024 TBL 1st round pick
-2025 TOR 1st round pick
-Lukas Reichel
-Nazar/Moore
-Allan/Vlasic/EDM

Most I would pay.
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This feels like more of a quantity trade where I think the Canucks would prefer better quality.
 
TLEH said:
The problem isn't generally guys making that much.

Edmonton's problem isn't McDavid making 12. Its Nurse making 9.5. Hawks problem (at first) wasn't Toews making 10.5. It was Seabrook making almost 7.

Never really saw Colorado having cap problems, they just lost their captain and had injuries. Off year. Still were a playoff team.
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Big difference. I'm pretty certain when Seabrook got 7M a year, the Hawks core already won their first cup of three. Seabrook then was miles ahead of Nurse in terms of overall play, it wasn't even close. Seabrook in his prime would be a #1 dman on at least half of the NHL teams at the time.
 
Peter Griffin said:
This feels like more of a quantity trade where I think the Canucks would prefer better quality.
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Didn't realize a guy that was PPG in the AHL at 19 and 20 with a good NHL run last year was not quality. Moore or Nazar are both solid prospects as well.

Allan/EDM/Vlasic is a bit of a throw in, but all have decent shots to be NHLers.

Then two firsts that will probably be between 16-28. Its got some quality, its got some quantity.

Still the best I think the Hawks should offer.
SeanMoneyHands said:
Big difference. I'm pretty certain when Seabrook got 7M a year, the Hawks core already won their first cup of three. Seabrook then was miles ahead of Nurse in terms of overall play, it wasn't even close. Seabrook in his prime would be a #1 dman on at least half of the NHL teams at the time.
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When Seabrook made 6.8 he was already ass.
 
TLEH said:
Didn't realize a guy that was PPG in the AHL at 19 and 20 with a good NHL run last year was not quality. Moore or Nazar are both solid prospects as well.
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If Reichel were a center, sure, but he’s not. Also Nazar had a pretty tough season in NCAA, would depend on how they viewed him or Moore but I feel both are more likely 2nd line types than the 1st line potential center Vancouver would covet.
 
TLEH said:
Didn't realize a guy that was PPG in the AHL at 19 and 20 with a good NHL run last year was not quality. Moore or Nazar are both solid prospects as well.

Allan/EDM/Vlasic is a bit of a throw in, but all have decent shots to be NHLers.

Then two firsts that will probably be between 16-28. Its got some quality, its got some quantity.

Still the best I think the Hawks should offer.

When Seabrook made 6.8 he was already ass.
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I’d prefer a return that involves Moore, Korchinski, and Chicago’s 1st (can be conditional where it gets deferred to the next year at Chicago’s choice). That is more quality than quantity. And depending on the overall package and whether the Canucks intend to do a proper rebuild, we could take back Seth Jones as a cap dump if Chicago adds.
 
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