Can one have on the actual cap level roster a player who has been on and could qualify for being on LTIR yet never dress? With temporary arena deal Arizona is talking about I wonder if the NHL would look the other way on this.You said take a guy off and back onto LTIR as it suits you as your situation dictates. That’s cap circumvention. Say good bye to your first round picks.
LTIR is for injured players. Not for moving guys onto and off it to work around the cap.
Arizona just lost two very high picks for scouting violations. Now you think they’ll get away with far more serious salary cap circumvention? Doubtful. This isn’t a favored son team like the NYR or NJD.Can one have on the actual cap level roster a player who has been on and could qualify for being on LTIR yet never dress? With temporary arena deal Arizona is talking about I wonder if the NHL would look the other way on this.
Weber is on LTIR and players can and have come off of LITR. I am sure if it "can" be done MTL will make the offer. The legal people will be consulted first. But if this can be done and the actual cash outlaying is the prefered avenue to Arizona all things considered then why not? The league in insuring Arizona stays float, Arizona staying afloat and Montreal being happy. Lots of winners there. To the the league the survival of the franchise is what counts. To me to be honest I would prefer a move of the franchise to the KW region more than else.You said take a guy off and back onto LTIR as it suits you as your situation dictates. That’s cap circumvention. Say good bye to your first round picks.
LTIR is for injured players. Not for moving guys onto and off it to work around the cap.
It's the free $26 million in cap space that is the desired part of the offer for Arizona. The return on Petry is the bonus. In this situation if the NHL allows it will not be a hockey trade but a financial transfer from the league to help the franchise survive. To me I prefer the franchise transfer to the KW region where it will make a profit.Trash proposal. Seriously, why would Arizona want Petry.
Hey @ottawa.
If the Habs can flip Petry at 15% retained for a 1st imo they should probably do it. 1st round draft picks are never a bad thing especially if your roster has holes and you're not expecting to be in cup contention for at least a few years.
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If Arizona is trading Chycrun, it is because they don't want to pay his salary. You think they'd be happy trading for Petry and his contract when the alternative is to just keep Chycrun?
Crouse is a beast.
You can come off LTIR. Guys eventually get health. You just can’t bounce back and forth from roster to LTIR and back. LTIR is for injured players. Seriously injured players.Weber is on LTIR and players can and have come off of LITR. I am sure if it "can" be done MTL will make the offer. The legal people will be consulted first. But if this can be done and the actual cash outlaying is the prefered avenue to Arizona all things considered then why not? The league in insuring Arizona stays float, Arizona staying afloat and Montreal being happy. Lots of winners there. To the the league the survival of the franchise is what counts. To me to be honest I would prefer a move of the franchise to the KW region more than else.
For something like this it would be a year by year budget kind of a thing. The internal cap for Arizona for the next few years as long as they in the smaller arena maybe as small as they can get away with. If the league will allow it if they can save $26 million in cash for the cost of $6 million they may look at it but I have said you would think this time the legal people would look at it first.You can come off LTIR. Guys eventually get health. You just can’t bounce back and forth from roster to LTIR and back. LTIR is for injured players. Seriously injured players.
weve been discussing this as a base on Habs twitter and I think we can come to something that would make sense for both teams with this as the base of the deal,,
Chychrun
Crouse
:coyotes
Petry (retained at 15%)
2023 1st round pick
Ylonen
Norlinder
Tuch
the Habs get Chychrun who is a solid D having a bad year and can prob rebound playing with the youngsters that will be coming up with MTL. They also get Crouse who is sort of a failed 1st rounder but has size
the Yotes get Petry who has been a stud other than this year and he wants to play in the USA. He has shown that other than this year age will not slow him down and Habs will retain some cap. The Yotes also get another 1st round pick and some really nice prospects in Ylonen and norlinder and tuch. Tuch they can prob flip to Buffalo for a late 1st as they will likely pay more for the Buffalo boy so that's basically like adding a late 1st/early 2nd to the trade
You should have offered Ryder, Halak, and a 2nd!
They wouldn't? Arizona has no use for an aging Petry. And Petry has already stated that he wants to be close to home Detroit. Arizona would be 100% on his no trade list. Not only do both decline it's not even close.Trash proposal. Seriously, why would Arizona want Petry.
You idea isn’t crazy. It’s interesting. Seabrook comes to mind. Kinda.For something like this it would be a year by year budget kind of a thing. The internal cap for Arizona for the next few years as long as they in the smaller arena maybe as small as they can get away with. If the league will allow it if they can save $26 million in cash for the cost of $6 million they may look at it but I have said you would think this time the legal people would look at it first.