Peterborough Petes 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)

[dirty12]

I think

That's very possible, especially if it reduces the number of picks also included.



Sudbury is the team IMO. They have the biggest need and the right type of assets to flip.

I hope
The wolves need a couple of winners.
I think O.Beck would be great fit for the ‘67s too. Cameron’s ideal player.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Don’t think Saginaw would be in on Mayer anymore if I had to guess Mayer will be traded to either Ottawa sudbury or Mississauga

I can still see Saginaw in the mix,especially considering they can move out OA forward Dean Loukas who only has 4 goals so far this year,while Dionicio adds offense and can be snarly his defensive acumen is not high.
Saggy can still use help on the D imo.

 

[ottsabrefan]

What does KGN have in terms of young players to trade? Will they really move a Frasca or Hopkins to get a big deal done?

The Fronts big year is next year. While they might do significant damage this year it will be viewed as gravy.

I can’t see them moving Frasca as he is their current number 2 centre and will move to number 1 next year when Ludwinski goes pro.

Hopkins would also have to go for a player returning next year.

Plus they have a player in Poole that fits the defensive profile of Beck.

I think they are way more likely to be in on Mayer given they may have two OA spots effectively open, their defence is weaker than their offence, and the price will be lower.

 

[Zebra]

Did the Fronts dump Tyler Savard or what’s going on there ?

Also has anyone heard what’s up with Pasquale Zito of the Battalion?

 

[zaluty]

Rumour is Savard left the team. Seen nothing official.

 

[Zebra]

Rumour is Savard left the team. Seen nothing official.

Oh dear -hope everything is ok

 

[Section7fan]

Someone should tell Owen Beck to stop scoring goals because Ottawa fans say he’s an average OHL player who is only worth a mid level player and late round pick in a trade.

 

[Section5Petes]

Can the Petes show some discipline?? What is going on here

 

[ottsabrefan]

Oh dear -hope everything is ok

Probably has to do with the new coach not appreciating penalties late in close games costing his team points.

 

[Petes1987]

Someone should tell Owen Beck to stop scoring goals because Ottawa fans say he’s an average OHL player who is only worth a mid level player and late round pick in a trade.

The same fans think that the 67s can get two, 2nds and two, 3rds for Brady Stonehouse who is no where near as good of a player as Owen Beck is.

 

[Petes]

The veterans on this team that most other teams fans will tell you are overrated… have led this team to first place in the conference without much of a supporting cast. There’s something to be said for championship experience and knowing how to win.

 

[Section7fan]

The veterans on this team that most other teams fans will tell you are overrated… have led this team to first place in the conference without much of a supporting cast. There’s something to be said for championship experience and knowing how to win.

Don’t forget those players will only fetch us a mid level player and late round picks in return. No teams will upgrade their inexperienced players for them.

 

[OMG67]

I think


I hope
The wolves need a couple of winners.
I think O.Beck would be great fit for the ‘67s too. Cameron’s ideal player.

67’s don’t have the right type of assets to acquire an elite player. HB was traded during the defection window and Kelly hasn’t seemed to find his feet this year. They don’t have a viable young player (16-17 y/o) that would tick off any boxes for teams.

They have the two 1sts next year which is why next year is probably a better push year. Trading Stonehouse is probably the smarter move. The problem is the competition next year will be far more stiff than this year. That’s the quandary.

 

[OMG67]

Someone should tell Owen Beck to stop scoring goals because Ottawa fans say he’s an average OHL player who is only worth a mid level player and late round pick in a trade.

I think that is a mischaracterization of the comments but it that is how you choose to read it then so be it.

To clarify my comments, I am opening the door for a pick haul with Saginaw. The players that tend to not quite qualify for a 2023 1st, usually go for a good 17 year old and a pick haul that consists of 2-3 2nds and 2-3 3rds. The question was whether it is a 16 year old and 2-3 picks or a 17 year old and 5-6 picks.

When you mischaracterize discussion and skew it so dramatically, it doesn’t do you any good.

 

[ptbopete]

If Beck has underwhelming numbers this year it is because he is on a defense-first team that is in first place in the Eastern Conference. If teams come calling for top Petes players, it will be Beck and Mayer but if the Petes sell, there are many players teams would like to have including Melee, Dubois and Purdeller. When evaluating a player's worth, points are only one factor to look at. Beck has been lighting it up lately anyway so win-win for the Petes.

Anyway last night's win was sweet. There were some big hits thrown by the Petes all night . The Petes physical play invites hyper-vigilance from the refs in my opinion. At one point in the second period, the Petes had 6 or 7 players in the penalty box (!) and faced a lengthy 5 on 3. NB players embellished a few times but all teams are doing that now.

NB was able to tie it up at that point and then later took the lead 5-4. But this Petes team does not quit. and McCoy's highlight reel OT winner was sensational. One of the best games I've seen this year.

 

[Petesfan8]

If Beck has underwhelming numbers this year it is because he is on a defense-first team that is in first place in the Eastern Conference. If teams come calling for top Petes players, it will be Beck and Mayer but if the Petes sell, there are many players teams would like to have including Melee, Dubois and Purdeller. When evaluating a player's worth, points are only one factor to look at. Beck has been lighting it up lately anyway so win-win for the Petes.

Anyway last night's win was sweet. There were some big hits thrown by the Petes all night . The Petes physical play invites hyper-vigilance from the refs in my opinion. At one point in the second period, the Petes had 6 or 7 players in the penalty box (!) and faced a lengthy 5 on 3. NB players embellished a few times but all teams are doing that now.

NB was able to tie it up at that point and then later took the lead 5-4. But this Petes team does not quit. and McCoy's highlight reel OT winner was sensational. One of the best games I've seen this year.

Let's not forget Sztuska when speaking of Petes players who other teams would be very interested in when discussing potential trades.

 

[Section5Petes]

If Beck has underwhelming numbers this year it is because he is on a defense-first team that is in first place in the Eastern Conference. If teams come calling for top Petes players, it will be Beck and Mayer but if the Petes sell, there are many players teams would like to have including Melee, Dubois and Purdeller. When evaluating a player's worth, points are only one factor to look at. Beck has been lighting it up lately anyway so win-win for the Petes.

Anyway last night's win was sweet. There were some big hits thrown by the Petes all night . The Petes physical play invites hyper-vigilance from the refs in my opinion. At one point in the second period, the Petes had 6 or 7 players in the penalty box (!) and faced a lengthy 5 on 3. NB players embellished a few times but all teams are doing that now.

NB was able to tie it up at that point and then later took the lead 5-4. But this Petes team does not quit. and McCoy's highlight reel OT winner was sensational. One of the best games I've seen this year.

 

[nelli27]

One player who does not get the attention he deserves is #19. The kid is the real McCoy.

 

[Bra Wavers]

Here is my take on everything.....

Players that will be traded......Beck, Mayer
IMO these guys are "market proof" - they will be prime targets so even if it's a sellers market they will garner a great return for the Petes

Players that might be traded......Smith, Sztuska

Smith is drafted so may not return as an OA, he is a beast to play against and is exactly what teams will want in their lineup come playoff time

Sztuska has had a great start to the year so there could be interest, especially for teams with a shot this year AND next.
With Bowen on the team, I expect him to be the starter next season (now that he has the maroon and white equipment ). Neither the Petes, nor Bowen will want to have him back up Sztuska next season.

These guys being traded will depend on the offers IMO.
The Connor Lockhart trade was a different situation.....that deal was made to accommodate Lockhart more than anything else - he needed to play and Oke was handcuffed.

Players that likely won't be traded......Dubois, Gauvreau, Purdeller, McCoy, Melee

Dubois, Gauvreau and Purdeller are more valuable to the Petes than the returns they would receive in trades.

It's my hope that McCoy and Melee will not be dealt, even if they receive decent offers.
I'm really hoping that McCoy, Melee and Lefebvre are the Petes, OAs next season.


I'm sure Oke has been receiving trade offers for many of these guys listed above but the plan has been working to perfection so far.

• Have veterans lead the team to a solid start while showing the younger players what it takes to play Peterborough Petes hockey.

- 1st place in conference, young guys playing with more confidence every game

• Trade away pieces at the deadline that won't be part of the Petes' rebuild next year

- Oke will have his fingers crossed that the number of buyers will be enough that he gets good trade returns

 

[OMG67]

Here is my take on everything.....

Players that will be traded......Beck, Mayer
IMO these guys are "market proof" - they will be prime targets so even if it's a sellers market they will garner a great return for the Petes

Players that might be traded......Smith, Sztuska

Smith is drafted so may not return as an OA, he is a beast to play against and is exactly what teams will want in their lineup come playoff time

Sztuska has had a great start to the year so there could be interest, especially for teams with a shot this year AND next.
With Bowen on the team, I expect him to be the starter next season (now that he has the maroon and white equipment ). Neither the Petes, nor Bowen will want to have him back up Sztuska next season.

These guys being traded will depend on the offers IMO.
The Connor Lockhart trade was a different situation.....that deal was made to accommodate Lockhart more than anything else - he needed to play and Oke was handcuffed.

Players that likely won't be traded......Dubois, Gauvreau, Purdeller, McCoy, Melee

Dubois, Gauvreau and Purdeller are more valuable to the Petes than the returns they would receive in trades.

It's my hope that McCoy and Melee will not be dealt, even if they receive decent offers.
I'm really hoping that McCoy, Melee and Lefebvre are the Petes, OAs next season.


I'm sure Oke has been receiving trade offers for many of these guys listed above but the plan has been working to perfection so far.

• Have veterans lead the team to a solid start while showing the younger players what it takes to play Peterborough Petes hockey.

- 1st place in conference, young guys playing with more confidence every game

• Trade away pieces at the deadline that won't be part of the Petes' rebuild next year

- Oke will have his fingers crossed that the number of buyers will be enough that he gets good trade returns

I agree. The only caveat is Sztuska. I like what he has done for sure. The issue is he was playing in Simpson’s shadow for so long and his own starting role has been very short. I can see him being in demand but I am not too sure it would be to a contender unless he is a backup. I see it more likley he goes to a midddling team that wants to shore up their goaltending. The challenge is Peterborough getting something in return that makes sense for them. I think he is likely more valuable to the Petes than as a trade piece. Goalies typically don’t go for much. Short term starters probably won’t demand enough in return to tweak the interest of the Petes. Keeping him for this season and trading him next season as an OA with a solid one year track record as a starter likely would make a positive difference in the value the Petes get. I can see a scenario where they get more for him in training camp next year than they get at the deadline this year if his season continues as it has started.

 

[Section5Petes]

'06 rookie Braydon McCallum with a three point night (3A) in North Bay last night, now up to 3 goals, 7 assists for 10 points through 16 games. This photo was taken last night and I think it might be one of my favourite pictures of the new jerseys that showcases just how nice, crisp and classic they are, as well as how clean the entire uniform looks as a whole!

 

[Section7fan]

Just out of curiosity and there is no indication this sort of deal has been discussed…

What if Ottawa were to offer Gavin Ewles (18yo) and 5th round pick for McCoy? Ewles is one of those guys that bounces between the 2nd and 3rd pairing in Ottawa. He is one year younger than McCoy so likely is there one year longer and you don’t need to spend an OA spot next year on him like you would with McCoy.

Would that “type” of deal be something on the radar?

Wanting our quality players for scraps. Not misleading at all. Your take on Beck is just as bad.

It was the same story here last year. Constantly telling us how bad our team was and how none of our players were elite and we weren’t going anywhere.

The way the Petes trounced the 67’s in the playoffs was by far the best part of the playoff run last year.

 

[User13452]

I agree. The only caveat is Sztuska. I like what he has done for sure. The issue is he was playing in Simpson’s shadow for so long and his own starting role has been very short. I can see him being in demand but I am not too sure it would be to a contender unless he is a backup. I see it more likley he goes to a midddling team that wants to shore up their goaltending. The challenge is Peterborough getting something in return that makes sense for them. I think he is likely more valuable to the Petes than as a trade piece. Goalies typically don’t go for much. Short term starters probably won’t demand enough in return to tweak the interest of the Petes. Keeping him for this season and trading him next season as an OA with a solid one year track record as a starter likely would make a positive difference in the value the Petes get. I can see a scenario where they get more for him in training camp next year than they get at the deadline this year if his season continues as it has started.

To me it’s pretty simple you move Stuzska if someone wants him and you see what you have in Bowen for the rest of the year. I highly doubt Stuzska is a OA next year so let Bowen play and find out if he’s your guy or if you need to look to trade for a goalie in the off season

Here is my take on everything.....

Players that will be traded......Beck, Mayer
IMO these guys are "market proof" - they will be prime targets so even if it's a sellers market they will garner a great return for the Petes

Players that might be traded......Smith, Sztuska

Smith is drafted so may not return as an OA, he is a beast to play against and is exactly what teams will want in their lineup come playoff time

Sztuska has had a great start to the year so there could be interest, especially for teams with a shot this year AND next.
With Bowen on the team, I expect him to be the starter next season (now that he has the maroon and white equipment ). Neither the Petes, nor Bowen will want to have him back up Sztuska next season.

These guys being traded will depend on the offers IMO.
The Connor Lockhart trade was a different situation.....that deal was made to accommodate Lockhart more than anything else - he needed to play and Oke was handcuffed.

Players that likely won't be traded......Dubois, Gauvreau, Purdeller, McCoy, Melee

Dubois, Gauvreau and Purdeller are more valuable to the Petes than the returns they would receive in trades.

It's my hope that McCoy and Melee will not be dealt, even if they receive decent offers.
I'm really hoping that McCoy, Melee and Lefebvre are the Petes, OAs next season.


I'm sure Oke has been receiving trade offers for many of these guys listed above but the plan has been working to perfection so far.

• Have veterans lead the team to a solid start while showing the younger players what it takes to play Peterborough Petes hockey.

- 1st place in conference, young guys playing with more confidence every game

• Trade away pieces at the deadline that won't be part of the Petes' rebuild next year

- Oke will have his fingers crossed that the number of buyers will be enough that he gets good trade returns

I would move Beck Mayer and Smith. Have McCoy and Melee back for sure as 2 of your OA next season and then look around the league for a team loaded with 04’s that is selling who you could grab another OA off of for the third next season and bring him in this year to help with the scoring loss of beck and Mayer

 

[HockeyPops]

and then look around the league for a team loaded with 04’s that is selling who you could grab another OA off of for the third next season and bring him in this year to help with the scoring loss of beck and Mayer

Which team loaded with 04s is selling? Aren't those usually the teams that are all in? If not, they probably don't have 4 players that age of enough quality to warrant them all returning for an OA year.

 

[User13452]

Which team loaded with 04s is selling? Aren't those usually the teams that are all in? If not, they probably don't have 4 players that age of enough quality to warrant them all returning for an OA year.

Niagara would probably move one of their 04’s