Peterborough Petes 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 2)

[OMG67]

The sample size for both these rosters as currently constructed is zero games. If you really feel the games played at the start of the season have great relevance to how the rest of the season will go, fill your boots. I probably would too if I was a 67s fan - but these aren't the same teams they were in October, so that "sample" becomes irrelevant because the variables have so significantly changed.

I agree wholeheartedly with this 100%.

We do have leading indicators that can be used to help forecast and make projections. I’ve used mostly the high level stats. Some of the stats nerds would use the advanced stats. I’m not a math guy and don’t want to even suggest that I am an expert in that area.

My whole point in this is that there are too many people that make unsubstantiated statements of fact. When that happens, I sometimes try to challenge it and try to use data to support what I am arguing.

If someone can come at me with leading indicators that I have not considered, I am more than willing to have a discussion. I will admit if I am wrong as well. I stay open minded in that regard. I’ve admitted my ignorance many times in here.

In this instance, I define offence as goals scored from all sources. If someone suggests that the top two lines in Peterborough will score 75% of their 2nd half goals (150 x 0.75 = 112) because that is the way the team is structured then so be it. Give me some reason to believe it. I need to know how those six players will all average 18-20 goals each in the second half. The way the Petes are structured, it isn’t reasonable to assume the remainder of the team outside of the top 2 lines would score much more than 36 goals or one goal per game on average. A top scoring team will score about 300 goals per year or 150 in the second half. That is where the numbers come from.

Then we’d need to assume that neither Ottawa nor North Bay will match that scoring. Both teams in just over a half of a season have done that already. Ottawa added two dynamic offensive players. Is it likely they score less with those two players added? I don’t think that is likely. North Bay was missing a key offensive player for a good portion of the season. They will likely match their first half production.

As much as I like the two lines on Peterborough, they can only do so much. It isn’t realistic to suggest they are clearly the best offensive team. Clearly they have the best top two lines. I’d endorse that for sure.

 

[OMG67]

I’m sure the ‘67s will score plenty vs the weaker six. You pull out all the October data and present it as you like. But the Petes top six after the deadline is so much better than anything the ‘67s can put together imo that there is no logical argument you can make to have me believe the ‘67s offence is just as good

You keep pointing to the top 6. I don’t think anyone can argue the top 6 isn’t better. They’d likely be wrong suggesting it.

The top 6 does not represent team offence. The TEAM represents team offence. There is a really big difference between the two.

If a team scores 4 goals (1 from each line) and the other teams top two lines score 3 goals but get no goals from the rest of their team, it is pretty clear which team had the best offence.

 

[Section5Petes]

Sure the 67's may not have the same quote on quote star players that the Petes do now, but they have proved that they do not need that. Now, add in Morrison and Pavel and there is no reason they are going to regress or be caught flat footed by the Petes. The Petes got better, so did Ottawa and now the journey of second half trade deadline teams can commence.

 

[NorthernVoice]

@OMG67 let's stop cluttering this thread with pointless arguing and do some good. The Petes have played 37 games and the 67s 36 games, so 31 and 32 remaining.

How about if the 67s score more goals than the Petes over their respective last 30 games of the season I donate $50 to the charity if your choice.

If the Petes outscore the 67s over their respective last 30 games, you donate to the charity of my choice.

 

[OMG67]

@OMG67 let's stop cluttering this thread with pointless arguing and do some good. The Petes have played 37 games and the 67s 36 games, so 31 and 32 remaining.

How about if the 67s score more goals than the Petes over their respective last 30 games of the season I donate $50 to the charity if your choice.

If the Petes outscore the 67s over their respective last 30 games, you donate to the charity of my choice.

How about if the Petes score 10 more goals than both Ottawa and North Bay in the 2nd half which equates to 1/3 of a goal per game, that proves they clearly have the better offence, I will donate $50 to the charity of your choice under you name. If Ottawa or North Bay score more than 10 goals than Peterborough, you donate $50.

We will call it a draw if it is within a margin of 10 goals either way. We will consider that the teams will be relatively equal at that point.

 

[NorthernVoice]

How about if the Petes score 10 more goals than both Ottawa and North Bay in the 2nd half which equates to 1/3 of a goal per game, that proves they clearly have the better offence, I will donate $50 to the charity of your choice under you name. If Ottawa or North Bay score more than 10 goals than Peterborough, you donate $50.

We will call it a draw if it is within a margin of 10 goals either way. We will consider that the teams will be relatively equal at that point.

Sure.

 

[Bra Wavers]

Sure.

I think you two probably need a referee for this contest. I will volunteer if you are both Ok with it.
What do say @OMG67 @NorthernVoice ?

Total goals scored Petes VS Ottawa/NB for each team’s last 30 regular season games.
I’m excited just thinking about it……that Petes/67s home and home series late in the season will be even more of a nail biter now

 

[OMG67]

I think you two probably need a referee for this contest. I will volunteer if you are both Ok with it.
What do say @OMG67 @NorthernVoice ?

Total goals scored Petes VS Ottawa/NB for each team’s last 30 regular season games.
I’m excited just thinking about it……that Petes/67s home and home series late in the season will be even more of a nail biter now

I’m good with you keeping track of everything independently.

 

[Section5Petes]

I think you two probably need a referee for this contest. I will volunteer if you are both Ok with it.
What do say @OMG67 @NorthernVoice ?

Total goals scored Petes VS Ottawa/NB for each team’s last 30 regular season games.
I’m excited just thinking about it……that Petes/67s home and home series late in the season will be even more of a nail biter now

This bet right here is what Dave Cameron and Rob Wilson will be using to pump up their teams

 

[OMG67]

This bet right here is what Dave Cameron and Rob Wilson will be using to pump up their teams

LOL. I doubt that

 

[Section5Petes]

LOL. I doubt that

The team video sessions will just be scrolling through individual team threads

 

[dirty12]

How about if the Petes score 10 more goals than both Ottawa and North Bay in the 2nd half which equates to 1/3 of a goal per game, that proves they clearly have the better offence, I will donate $50 to the charity of your choice under you name. If Ottawa or North Bay score more than 10 goals than Peterborough, you donate $50.

We will call it a draw if it is within a margin of 10 goals either way. We will consider that the teams will be relatively equal at that point.

Seriously, it does not matter how badly the ‘67s smash the weaker six.
In a game vs the Petes, the ‘67s will be seeing ~45 minutes of Avon-Robertson-Lockhart and Othmann-Beck-Hayes. No amount of Mintyukov gives the ‘67s that capability of scoring imo.
The ‘67s will need to beat the Petes with team defence.

 

[User13452]

Anyone know what’s going on with Zack Lewis? Haven’t heard anything still on roster but hasn’t played

 

[OMG67]

The team video sessions will just be scrolling through individual team threads

Hahahahaha.

The players wouldn’t be able to see straight because their eyes would have rolled to the back of their heads with a lot of what gets on here.

It would be classic though to even have ONE session and be a fly in the wall to see what is said. Would be epic!

 

[NorthernVoice]

Hahahahaha.

The players wouldn’t be able to see straight because their eyes would have rolled to the back of their heads with a lot of what gets on here.

It would be classic though to even have ONE session and be a fly in the wall to see what is said. Would be epic!

They do read them, good reminder for all of us to be mindful of what we say.

 

[OMG67]

They do read them, good reminder for all of us to be mindful of what we say.

Individual players yes but not in a team session led by the coaching staff.

I know there have been parents on here flipping tables!

I can just imagine a pre-game rant by Peterborough before a 67a matchup with Spearing in the room stating, “”OMG67 is out there saying we aren’t good! Let’s go show’em boys!”

How classic would that be? Sounds like a new Netflix special!

 

[Bra Wavers]

Anyone know what’s going on with Zack Lewis? Haven’t heard anything still on roster but hasn’t played

This was in the Examiner from Dec. 29th........

Petes GM Mike Oke said second-year forward Zack Lewis is out indefinitely with a wrist injury. He’s dealt with wrist, shoulder, concussion and illness this season and has yet to play a game. He aggravated the wrist injury in practice and may need a medical procedure to fix it, Oke said.

 

[Bra Wavers]

I’m good with you keeping track of everything independently.

OK......setting the stage for the @OMG67 VS @NorthernVoice goals scored contest.

The Bet:
- if the Petes score 10 more goals than both Ottawa and North Bay in the final 30 regular season games then OMG67 will donate $50 to the charity of Northern Voice 's choice under his name.

- If Ottawa or North Bay score more than 10 goals than Peterborough, then Northern Voice will donate $50 to the charity of OMG67's choice.

- it will be a draw if it is within a margin of 10 goals either way. We will consider that the teams will be relatively equal at that point.


The Start:
NB's final 30 games start tomorrow vs the SOO
67's final 30 games start Sunday vs SAR
Petes' final 30 games start Saturday vs the IceDogs

Now, let’s have a clean fight, obey my instructions and protect yourself at all times. Touch gloves if you want to, and go back to your corners and wait for the bell.

 

[User13452]

This was in the Examiner from Dec. 29th........

Petes GM Mike Oke said second-year forward Zack Lewis is out indefinitely with a wrist injury. He’s dealt with wrist, shoulder, concussion and illness this season and has yet to play a game. He aggravated the wrist injury in practice and may need a medical procedure to fix it, Oke said.

Oh missed seeing that but that’s not good news that might be the end of his time here he’s barely played in 2 years

 

[Section5Petes]

Oh missed seeing that but that’s not good news that might be the end of his time here he’s barely played in 2 years

Feel bad for him. Sad what injuries can to do a career

 

[ptbopete]

No posts on game day. Go Petes! Should be a tight ,competitive game.

 

[Zebra]

Hopefully Zanetti is back

 

[ptbopete]

think they said right after WJC was done that Zanetti was out for 2-3 weeks. So maybe another week?

 

[StingUpdates]

Classy gesture for all the boys who played at WJCs! Good luck tonight.

 

[User13452]

Sarnia’s forecheck is giving the Petes all kinds of trouble. Turnover after turnover they can’t exit the zone clean