Peterborough Petes 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 4)

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Yah I don't want to be Wilson figuring out goaltending
As I’ve been watching the scrimmages and even leading up to the camp this past week, I still truly have no idea what they are going to do with the goaltending situation. Both Simpson and Sztuska are competent starters so I really have no idea what they will do. Either way, we will have a top starter in the league this season so at least there is that
 
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OAs?......must be down to 4 at the start of the season, can only dress 3 per game, must be down to 3 at trade deadline
Simpson, Lockhart, Mayer, Gauvreau, Dubois

IMO....it would be great if they could trade Simpson in the pre-season for good value but I'm worried that the OA goalie market is flooded and teams who may need an OA goalie are not feeling any urgency to make a deal until they see what they have.

Brantford (Drobac), Sarnia (Gaudreau), and/or Barrie (West/Thornton) will be looking to deal their OA keepers. If Oke can't make a deal for Simpson in the pre-season that he is happy with then one of the other 4 will have to be dealt.

Then IMO, the Petes start Simpson every 2nd game (?) and when he plays, one of the other three are out of the lineup. This creates a really big logjam in goal, especially with Quizi playing so well in camp after a solid OJHL season. This is not ideal for any of the OAs, but all 5 have value in the league, especially coming off an OHL championship.

Teams who might be looking for an OA goalie?
Kingston - has 05 and 06 goalies; has only 2 OAs presently
Guelph - has two 05 goalies; has 3 OAs presently
London - has an 04, 05 and 07 goalies; has 4 OAs presently but two are low on the depth chart on defense
Flint - has 05 and 06 goalies; has only 2 OAs presently

I guess we'll wait and see how things shake down
 

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OAs?......must be down to 4 at the start of the season, can only dress 3 per game, must be down to 3 at trade deadline
Simpson, Lockhart, Mayer, Gauvreau, Dubois

IMO....it would be great if they could trade Simpson in the pre-season for good value but I'm worried that the OA goalie market is flooded and teams who may need an OA goalie are not feeling any urgency to make a deal until they see what they have.

Brantford (Drobac), Sarnia (Gaudreau), and/or Barrie (West/Thornton) will be looking to deal their OA keepers. If Oke can't make a deal for Simpson in the pre-season that he is happy with then one of the other 4 will have to be dealt.

Then IMO, the Petes start Simpson every 2nd game (?) and when he plays, one of the other three are out of the lineup. This creates a really big logjam in goal, especially with Quizi playing so well in camp after a solid OJHL season. This is not ideal for any of the OAs, but all 5 have value in the league, especially coming off an OHL championship.

Teams who might be looking for an OA goalie?
Kingston - has 05 and 06 goalies; has only 2 OAs presently
Guelph - has two 05 goalies; has 3 OAs presently
London - has an 04, 05 and 07 goalies; has 4 OAs presently but two are low on the depth chart on defense
Flint - has 05 and 06 goalies; has only 2 OAs presently

I guess we'll wait and see how things shake down
Gotta be flint or London and ideally we get a forward in return that bumps some of these new kids down on the depth chart. Don’t want them to get overwhelmed too soon.
 

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OAs?......must be down to 4 at the start of the season, can only dress 3 per game, must be down to 3 at trade deadline
Simpson, Lockhart, Mayer, Gauvreau, Dubois

IMO....it would be great if they could trade Simpson in the pre-season for good value but I'm worried that the OA goalie market is flooded and teams who may need an OA goalie are not feeling any urgency to make a deal until they see what they have.

Brantford (Drobac), Sarnia (Gaudreau), and/or Barrie (West/Thornton) will be looking to deal their OA keepers. If Oke can't make a deal for Simpson in the pre-season that he is happy with then one of the other 4 will have to be dealt.

Then IMO, the Petes start Simpson every 2nd game (?) and when he plays, one of the other three are out of the lineup. This creates a really big logjam in goal, especially with Quizi playing so well in camp after a solid OJHL season. This is not ideal for any of the OAs, but all 5 have value in the league, especially coming off an OHL championship.

Teams who might be looking for an OA goalie?
Kingston - has 05 and 06 goalies; has only 2 OAs presently
Guelph - has two 05 goalies; has 3 OAs presently
London - has an 04, 05 and 07 goalies; has 4 OAs presently but two are low on the depth chart on defense
Flint - has 05 and 06 goalies; has only 2 OAs presently

I guess we'll wait and see how things shake down
I 100% think kingston is going to be getting one of your guys. All would be great additions to the team here. I’d love Simpson here. The only one of that group I’d be sceptical about Would be Gauvreau but with kingston only having 2 OA’s and likely callens won’t stick around the whole year. I’d be shocked if we don’t pick up one of your guys.

The only thing though is it would be trading within our own division which doesn’t usually happen a ton but obviously still can. I think kingston will wait until November to decide if they want to pick people up etc
 

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Velliaris elite prospects page certainly isn’t pretty but let’s hope they can use him in a simple shutdown role.
Big kid who has been playing with and against older players the past 2 years in the OJHL. Nice signing by Oke
 

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OAs?......must be down to 4 at the start of the season, can only dress 3 per game, must be down to 3 at trade deadline
Simpson, Lockhart, Mayer, Gauvreau, Dubois

IMO....it would be great if they could trade Simpson in the pre-season for good value but I'm worried that the OA goalie market is flooded and teams who may need an OA goalie are not feeling any urgency to make a deal until they see what they have.

Brantford (Drobac), Sarnia (Gaudreau), and/or Barrie (West/Thornton) will be looking to deal their OA keepers. If Oke can't make a deal for Simpson in the pre-season that he is happy with then one of the other 4 will have to be dealt.

Then IMO, the Petes start Simpson every 2nd game (?) and when he plays, one of the other three are out of the lineup. This creates a really big logjam in goal, especially with Quizi playing so well in camp after a solid OJHL season. This is not ideal for any of the OAs, but all 5 have value in the league, especially coming off an OHL championship.

Teams who might be looking for an OA goalie?
Kingston - has 05 and 06 goalies; has only 2 OAs presently
Guelph - has two 05 goalies; has 3 OAs presently
London - has an 04, 05 and 07 goalies; has 4 OAs presently but two are low on the depth chart on defense
Flint - has 05 and 06 goalies; has only 2 OAs presently

I guess we'll wait and see how things shake down
My guess is that Tucker Robertson will also be in the mix. Where else is he going to play? A lot of decisions to be made.
 

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As y’all know I hate trades.

However, the one comfort I have -our players are worth more than we think and I hope we are paid dearly for our lads.

We are champions with “experience“ which is coveted by many teams, we know what it takes and we can compete/win.

Last year teams clamoured for Bulldogs -every team wanted one because of their experience etc

I would expect that this year our lads are the prize players everyone wants.

If we have to part with Simpson then I hope he goes to London - where he would have a serious chance of going back to back and be the hometown hero.

I couldn’t take Simpson to Kingston or anyone in our conference.
 

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My guess is that Tucker Robertson will also be in the mix. Where else is he going to play? A lot of decisions to be made.
Coachella valley firebirds (Seattles AHL team) which I believe he is now eligible for and the last 2 years in the ohl has put up 81+ points per year while being great defensively and on faceoffs I highly doubt he is back in the ohl
 

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Coachella valley firebirds (Seattles AHL team) which I believe he is now eligible for and the last 2 years in the ohl has put up 81+ points per year while being great defensively and on faceoffs I highly doubt he is back in the ohl
While this would normally be true… their depth chart is loaded with forwards.. he was drafted as a Re-entry and coachella was very good last year. We will see.
 

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As y’all know I hate trades.

However, the one comfort I have -our players are worth more than we think and I hope we are paid dearly for our lads.

We are champions with “experience“ which is coveted by many teams, we know what it takes and we can compete/win.

Last year teams clamoured for Bulldogs -every team wanted one because of their experience etc

I would expect that this year our lads are the prize players everyone wants.

If we have to part with Simpson then I hope he goes to London - where he would have a serious chance of going back to back and be the hometown hero.

I couldn’t take Simpson to Kingston or anyone in our conference.
I agree he likely will be going to London if any team but I think kingston and Saginaw have to be the 2 runner ups for sure. Definitely think he’s going to be in a different sweater than the Pete’s one by the end of the year

Thanks for posting the link.
I had a look and Lockhart isn’t listed on a line - so he isn’t dressed?
Could be a rookie camp or main camp just a guess though. Believe he was drafted by Vancouver
 
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I agree he likely will be going to London if any team but I think kingston and Saginaw have to be the 2 runner ups for sure. Definitely think he’s going to be in a different sweater than the Pete’s one by the end of the year
Don't forget about Guelph.......they will have their hands full with London, but it's George Burnett and if they could upgrade their two 05 goalies with Simpson and then get Allen back healthy part way through the season, they could be in the mix in the West.

Could be a rookie camp or main camp just a guess though. Believe he was drafted by Vancouver
An article in the Examiner a few days ago commented on how Lockhart was disappointed that he wasn't signed by Vancouver and that he had no NHL camp invites. He will be a good trade piece for the Petes this season.
 
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Coachella valley firebirds (Seattles AHL team) which I believe he is now eligible for and the last 2 years in the ohl has put up 81+ points per year while being great defensively and on faceoffs I highly doubt he is back in the ohl
Petes coach Rob Wilson has said in a newspaper article that there is a chance the Petes could get Tucker Robertson back as an overage. I agree that Kingston could be a destination for one of our excess overages. Of the five that are expected to play as overages I expect that the Petes will keep Connor Lockhart, one of Sam Mayer or Cam Gauvreau and either Michael Simpson or Jax Dubois. If Tucker Robertson returns he will stay along with Lockhart and one of the defencemen likely Mayer.
 

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Why would u think we trade all these guys we still have pieces to be competitive
Who is going to score? Beck, Lockhart (while they're here), then who can you expect to even approach 20 goals? I personally don't see it for Purdeller (10 last year). Maybe Melee (9) or Dubois (7) if he's here? I don't see a rookie doing it (I like McCallum but that's a lot to ask). Lefebvre isn't jumping from 2 to 25 (I really like him!! but It's very likely not happening!)
 
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Who is going to score? Beck, Lockhart (while they're here), then who can you expect to even approach 20 goals? I personally don't see it for Purdeller (10 last year). Maybe Melee (9) or Dubois (7) if he's here? I don't see a rookie doing it (I like McCallum but that's a lot to ask). Lefebvre isn't jumping from 2 to 25 (I really like him!! but It's very likely not happening!)
I doubt Connor Lockhart will be traded. I can see Purdeller getting 20 plus goals with more ice time. Melee and Lefebvre production will also increase.
 

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I doubt Connor Lockhart will be traded. I can see Purdeller getting 20 plus goals with more ice time. Melee and Lefebvre production will also increase.
Okay, so let's be optimistic...

Beck 40
Lockhart 35
Purdeller 20
Melee 20
Dubois 15
Mayer 15
Lefebvre 15
McCallum 10
McCue 10
Page 10
McCoy 7
Smith 5

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That's still sub-Oshawa 22-23 offensive production (pretty damn bad)
 
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Okay, so let's be optimistic...

Beck 40
Lockhart 35
Purdeller 20
Melee 20
Dubois 15
Mayer 15
Lefebvre 15
McCallum 10
McCue 10
Page 10
McCoy 7
Smith 5

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That's still sub-Oshawa 22-23 offensive production (pretty damn bad)
These are some very very optimistic outcomes and it’s still not a good offence. I highly doubt McCue and Page get 10. Now I wouldn’t be surprised if Faulkner gets 10-15.

This is why I’m hoping when we do make trades we look to bring in a forward or two… maybe do something like Simpson to KGN for Thibodeau. That’s probably not a great example but something similar
 
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I think the Petes have something in both Liam Ladds and Carson Cameron I was impressed by both today.

My prediction for further signings this evening McGrail, Vellaris, Larmand and Leek.
Yes, thought McGrail had a very solid camp. Physical, great skater, moves pucks, strong kid, heavy point shot. Was a plus (+/-) player ever scrimmage i watched. Did they go with younger LD or want a taller D? Regardless the kid proved he could play in the O.
 
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