Peterborough Petes 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 4)

[Zebra]

Page has very little upside if any and which young guys are you referring to? Petes will be lucky to win 15 games next season let’s be honest

But you know what ?
At the start of last season Everyone picked us to finish middle of the pack -which we did

Middle of the pack became the OHL CHAMPIONS!

Lots of people took humour in our losing ways after we went all in
Lots of people poked fun at our record -we only won 35 games all year
People said we were lucky to make the playoffs

Lucky to make the playoffs became the OHL CHAMPS

If you go over and look at the playoffs predictions thread -

1st Round-everyone picked Sudbury to beat us
And when we swept Sudbury it was “only because Sudbury was undisciplined”

2nd Round-everyone picked Ottawa to beat us and when we eliminated Ottawa it was because Ottawa “was too young”

3rd Round-everyone picked NB to beat us out and when we eliminated NB it was because it was “a game 7 fluke”

OHL Championship-
Everyone picked London to beat us and when we beat London it was “because the Petes emptied the cupboard at the deadline”


So when people make predictions about how weak we are going to be next season -I JUST LAUGH !

 

[dmead]

But you know what ?
At the start of last season Everyone picked us to finish middle of the pack -which we did

Middle of the pack became the OHL CHAMPIONS!

Lots of people took humour in our losing ways after we went all in
Lots of people poked fun at our record -we only won 35 games all year
People said we were lucky to make the playoffs

Lucky to make the playoffs became the OHL CHAMPS

If you go over and look at the playoffs predictions thread -

1st Round-everyone picked Sudbury to beat us
And when we swept Sudbury it was “only because Sudbury was undisciplined”

2nd Round-everyone picked Ottawa to beat us and when we eliminated Ottawa it was because Ottawa “was too young”

3rd Round-everyone picked NB to beat us out and when we eliminated NB it was because it was “a game 7 fluke”

OHL Championship-
Everyone picked London to beat us and when we beat London it was “because the Petes emptied the cupboard at the deadline”


So when people make predictions about how weak we are going to be next season -I JUST LAUGH !

Sorry to burst the narrative, I dont know of any London fan who said anything but the better team won.

Might have been one ill tempered sea bass but none that I know of.

London was in same boat. I myself had them finishing in 6th in the West. Goes to show that you just play the game to the best of your ability and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[ecraigs]

Sorry to burst the narrative, I dont know of any London fan who said anything but the better team won.

Might have been one ill tempered sea bass but none that I know of.

London was in same boat. I myself had them finishing in 6th in the West. Goes to show that you just play the game to the best of your ability and let the chips fall where they may.

The most important team members at this time of year are the goalies and the coaching staff. Wilson and his crew have done a marvellous job keeping the Petes on message and prepared. Simpson was not strong last night, which made Wilson's job almost impossible.

OHL players, particularly drafted ones, need a staff to keep their edge and keep them focused. Wilson has done that very well.

 

[OHL Observer]

I agree, the little guy works hard, that is a fact. But you asked me to check the stats. I did over two years has played a total of 68 games, 7 goals 1 assist. Hardly a piece of your "core" moving forward. Not to belittle him, maybe more question your judgement in this case.

You clearly don’t understand junior hockey. Move along back to your AAA thread. You clearly don’t belong here.

 

[OHL Observer]

As much as I’d love to talk about the future of the Petes, this season is still going which is more than any other OHL team can say this year. I believe the Petes will bounce back next game and play like the Petes we saw during playoffs. Then it’s just one game at a time until it’s over!

 

[dirty12]

But you know what ?
At the start of last season Everyone picked us to finish middle of the pack -which we did

Middle of the pack became the OHL CHAMPIONS!

Lots of people took humour in our losing ways after we went all in
Lots of people poked fun at our record -we only won 35 games all year
People said we were lucky to make the playoffs

Lucky to make the playoffs became the OHL CHAMPS

If you go over and look at the playoffs predictions thread -

1st Round-everyone picked Sudbury to beat us
And when we swept Sudbury it was “only because Sudbury was undisciplined”

2nd Round-everyone picked Ottawa to beat us and when we eliminated Ottawa it was because Ottawa “was too young”

3rd Round-everyone picked NB to beat us out and when we eliminated NB it was because it was “a game 7 fluke”

OHL Championship-
Everyone picked London to beat us and when we beat London it was “because the Petes emptied the cupboard at the deadline”


So when people make predictions about how weak we are going to be next season -I JUST LAUGH !

The Petes were not the favourite, but not everyone picked them to lose each round

 

[beastintheeast]

But you know what ?
At the start of last season Everyone picked us to finish middle of the pack -which we did

Middle of the pack became the OHL CHAMPIONS!

Lots of people took humour in our losing ways after we went all in
Lots of people poked fun at our record -we only won 35 games all year
People said we were lucky to make the playoffs

Lucky to make the playoffs became the OHL CHAMPS

If you go over and look at the playoffs predictions thread -

1st Round-everyone picked Sudbury to beat us
And when we swept Sudbury it was “only because Sudbury was undisciplined”

2nd Round-everyone picked Ottawa to beat us and when we eliminated Ottawa it was because Ottawa “was too young”

3rd Round-everyone picked NB to beat us out and when we eliminated NB it was because it was “a game 7 fluke”

OHL Championship-
Everyone picked London to beat us and when we beat London it was “because the Petes emptied the cupboard at the deadline”


So when people make predictions about how weak we are going to be next season -I JUST LAUGH !

The one thing that a lot of people I think that did not take into consideration is coaching.

The Petes developed the system that they have had for a long time in that they can play BORING HOCKEY in the playoffs.
The scarey thing is that it is a successful system.

 

[WillardJFredricks]

Win or lose tonight, I hope it's a good game. Quebec will be tough, and even though they've clinched a spot in the final, they'll still be playing to win. I hope the Petes have a solid game. Simpson especially. I don't want his outstanding season to end with 3 rough games.

 

[ktownfan]

You clearly don’t understand junior hockey. Move along back to your AAA thread. You clearly don’t belong here.

I'd love to know your credentials. Maybe related to Page, and that's ok. He works hard, but core of a team? Come on. Any way this is the end of this post for me. Time will tell,lol

 

[OHL Observer]

I'd love to know your credentials. Maybe related to Page, and that's ok. He works hard, but core of a team? Come on. Any way this is the end of this post for me. Time will tell,lol

This is a fan page. I’m a Petes fan but also an OHL fan. All I said was there are great young guys coming up. I mentioned Page because of what he did last game which shows there’s something to be excited about for Petes fans seeing young guys contribute when they can and what they might have to offer. You decided to hop on here and bash the poor young player. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you won’t hear me belittle a 17 year old that’s playing with mostly 19 and 20 year olds. And I use Avon as an example as everyone bashed him when he was younger but he has come out to be a star on this team and the stats are all there for you to see if that’s what you like to do. I can also use Evangelista from London as an example if you prefer talking about other teams but this is the Petes page. You should maybe hop on Kingston page if that’s what Ktown is? Kingston has many young players coming up too. It really showed how tough this league is for young players when older guys were traded and Kingston had a rough year after that. I didn’t hop on here and bash that but the stats are there to show it. Better luck next year. Petes are in the Memorial cup right now. Go Petes Go!

 

[ktownfan]

This is a fan page. I’m a Petes fan but also an OHL fan. All I said was there are great young guys coming up. I mentioned Page because of what he did last game which shows there’s something to be excited about for Petes fans seeing young guys contribute when they can and what they might have to offer. You decided to hop on here and bash the poor young player. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you won’t hear me belittle a 17 year old that’s playing with mostly 19 and 20 year olds. And I use Avon as an example as everyone bashed him when he was younger but he has come out to be a star on this team and the stats are all there for you to see if that’s what you like to do. I can also use Evangelista from London as an example if you prefer talking about other teams but this is the Petes page. You should maybe hop on Kingston page if that’s what Ktown is? Kingston has many young players coming up too. It really showed how tough this league is for young players when older guys were traded and Kingston had a rough year after that. I didn’t hop on here and bash that but the stats are there to show it. Better luck next year. Petes are in the Memorial cup right now. Go Petes Go!

Go Petes

 

[rve24]

Hoping for a solid effort n a W for the Petes tonight.

 

[Section5Petes]

Mike Oke absolutely shafted not winning GM of the year. What a joke that Mark Hunter won it

 

[Zebra]

Mike Oke absolutely shafted not winning GM of the year. What a joke that Mark Hunter won it

I know right ! I think Mike Oke should have gotten it too

However, the article I read ( skimmed through really) mentioned that Mark Hunter had to step up and lead the team through their grief at the loss of their team mate Abakar Kazbekov.

Maybe that was a deciding factor -my understanding of the death was that it was a suicide (but I could be wrong) and that is some serious stuff to try and navigate your team through -

Although-I didn’t notice any commemorative stickers on the London helmets or a rememberance badge on their jerseys or anything to honour their Abakar Kazbekov but they must have done services etc to honour his memory and celebrate his life.

If it was suicide maybe they set up a scholarship or start a mental health award campaign or something ?

 

[dmead]

They wore a number 15 crest just below the OHL crest on the chest. Also the number 15 was on the ice behind the nets for most of the year. I think it was removed when they replaced the ice for the Brier.

 

[rve24]

Mike Oke absolutely shafted not winning GM of the year. What a joke that Mark Hunter won it

Both GMs did a good job. Shafted is inappropriate IMO. Just me but I understand your passion.
One could argue its easier to go full.buy mode with little consideration for the next 2 years but more difficult to show restraint add both young and vet key players, selling off extra redundant assets for futures and still be on the cusp of a title.
It's not something u can measure quantitatively or the winning OHL POs team coach and GM would always win it.
It's not a big deal, voted awards are aubjective and really just a pat on the back. Both did a great job as did others. ( Sarnia, NB......)
JMO.
Good luck tonight, enjoy.

 

[OHL Observer]

I can see why Hunter got the award with everything that team went through this year. I also see the argument why Oke should have gotten it. But if we rewind 3 or 4 months ago everyone wanted Okes head so the team pulling off the win showed he did his job. I clap my hands to both GMs on a job well done!

 

[Petes1987]

I know right ! I think Mike Oke should have gotten it too

However, the article I read ( skimmed through really) mentioned that Mark Hunter had to step up and lead the team through their grief at the loss of their team mate Abakar Kazbekov.

Maybe that was a deciding factor -my understanding of the death was that it was a suicide (but I could be wrong) and that is some serious stuff to try and navigate your team through -

Although-I didn’t notice any commemorative stickers on the London helmets or a rememberance badge on their jerseys or anything to honour their Abakar Kazbekov but they must have done services etc to honour his memory and celebrate his life.

If it was suicide maybe they set up a scholarship or start a mental health award campaign or something ?

Mike Oke absolutely shafted not winning GM of the year. What a joke that Mark Hunter won it

Mike Oke definitely should be the General Manager if the Year. He built a winner first by drafting players like Shawn Spearing, JR Avon, Tucker Robertson, Michael Simpson, Donovan McCoy Konner Smith, Chase Lefebvre, Liam Sztuska, Sam McCue, Quenton Page and Braydon McCallum in the OHL Draft, Brian Zanetti and Tommy Purdeller in the import draft and Sam Mayer in the U18 Draft. He also drafted other good players that were traded for numerous elite players we were able to using those players and draft picks Mike made many excellent trades to complete this team. Starting last year by trading for Jonathan Melee and Chase Stillman, obtaining Connor Lockhart in the off season and trading for veteran players like Brennan Othmann, Avery Hayes, Gavin White, Owen Beck and Cam Gauvreau during this season. Because of the lost season because of Covid he did not possess the draft picks that he would have had, if he had been able recoup some in trades that he would most likely made in that lost season when they were expected to be in a rebuilding season. No one deserved this award more than Mike Oke did!!!

 

[EvenSteven]

Mike Oke definitely should be the General Manager if the Year. He built a winner first by drafting players like Shawn Spearing, JR Avon, Tucker Robertson, Michael Simpson, Donovan McCoy Konner Smith, Chase Lefebvre, Liam Sztuska, Sam McCue, Quenton Page and Braydon McCallum in the OHL Draft, Brian Zanetti and Tommy Purdeller in the import draft and Sam Mayer in the U18 Draft. He also drafted other good players that were traded for numerous elite players we were able to using those players and draft picks Mike made many excellent trades to complete this team. Starting last year by trading for Jonathan Melee and Chase Stillman, obtaining Connor Lockhart in the off season and trading for veteran players like Brennan Othmann, Avery Hayes, Gavin White, Owen Beck and Cam Gauvreau during this season. Because of the lost season because of Covid he did not possess the draft picks that he would have had, if he had been able recoup some in trades that he would most likely made in that lost season when they were expected to be in a rebuilding season. No one deserved this award more than Mike Oke did!!!

Yup. Oke had a good year. But, it could be argued that Mark Hunter had a better year.

Starting in September, he was able to bring in Sam Dickinson. That’s a huge score. Also, both Oke and Hunter traded away first round picks at the deadline. But, because of the Dickinson addition, that age group In London is still strong.

At the deadline, Hunter was able to improve his team enough to get them to the league final, without decimating their draft cupboard. London still has a decent amount of second and third round picks going forward while Peterboro’s cupboard is virtually empty.

Because Hunter didn’t completely empty the cupboard, he had a very good ‘23 draft in the early rounds. He had a 2nd and two 3rds that the Petes didn’t have. Not having 2nd or 3rd round picks will affect greatly that age group going forward. But, as usual, Hunter made sure he has a healthy ‘07 group going forward. Especially if William Moore reports.

I suppose Oke has assets on the team that he can sell off in the off season and beyond to recoup future players/picks.

We’ll see though if he can get the job done enough to maybe win GM of the year next year.

 

[Bra Wavers]

Mike Oke definitely should be the General Manager if the Year. He built a winner first by drafting players like Shawn Spearing, JR Avon, Tucker Robertson, Michael Simpson, Donovan McCoy Konner Smith, Chase Lefebvre, Liam Sztuska, Sam McCue, Quenton Page and Braydon McCallum in the OHL Draft, Brian Zanetti and Tommy Purdeller in the import draft and Sam Mayer in the U18 Draft. He also drafted other good players that were traded for numerous elite players we were able to using those players and draft picks Mike made many excellent trades to complete this team. Starting last year by trading for Jonathan Melee and Chase Stillman, obtaining Connor Lockhart in the off season and trading for veteran players like Brennan Othmann, Avery Hayes, Gavin White, Owen Beck and Cam Gauvreau during this season. Because of the lost season because of Covid he did not possess the draft picks that he would have had, if he had been able recoup some in trades that he would most likely made in that lost season when they were expected to be in a rebuilding season. No one deserved this award more than Mike Oke did!!!

It’s hard to compare the two GMs because of the factors mentioned in earlier posts. The small market vs big market angle certainly helps Oke’s case. During the London series I was thinking about how unfair the $ difference between the two teams is.
London was not only selling 5,000 + more tickets per game than the Petes but the top playoff ticket price is at least $40 more per ticket…..crazy!
Knowing all of that, how unfair is it that when the Petes travelled to London they had to pay $50+ more per night for hotel rooms compared to what the Knights paid in Peterborough.

Back to the GM of the year award discussion….Oke wasn’t even the runner up (Adam Dennis NB) but him not winning the award doesn’t change the impressive job he’s done. This award was voted on by the GMs and they should know better than anyone else who deserves it.

 

[rve24]

It’s hard to compare the two GMs because of the factors mentioned in earlier posts. The small market vs big market angle certainly helps Oke’s case. During the London series I was thinking about how unfair the $ difference between the two teams is.
London was not only selling 5,000 + more tickets per game than the Petes but the top playoff ticket price is at least $40 more per ticket…..crazy!
Knowing all of that, how unfair is it that when the Petes travelled to London they had to pay $50+ more per night for hotel rooms compared to what the Knights paid in Peterborough.

Back to the GM of the year award discussion….Oke wasn’t even the runner up (Adam Dennis NB) but him not winning the award doesn’t change the impressive job he’s done. This award was voted on by the GMs and they should know better than anyone else who deserves it.

Do the teams get all the tickets $ or is it dependant on the company managing the arena? And the deal wirh them. Global Spectrum used to be and maybe still is, not sure, dont care. But I'm sure it's not as simple as ticket price equals cash in the pocket. Lease, % of tics, parking concessions......deoendantvin the dealnteams sign
Granted I will say LK I would guess has a competitive advantage in money coming in over most teams but they drove that advantage 100% .
The best adv an OHL team can have is community resources....local relationships that support the teams thru access to physio, hospitals, medical, therapists, trainers.....some which don't cost full value if relationships/partnerships are cultivated over time.

Hotel costs? Probly irrevelant in the costnof operating a franchise. ( or else Missy, Ott would break crushing it lol)

I am truly supportive of small market teams but they get advantages also often not mentioned. I wont get into the Hunters n state of LK arena, attendance.etal before they built it up.

All leagues have these big market/perception issues. NY, LA, Toronto, Dallas ect.. in whatever sport but it continually comes down to ownership, leadership, staffs n players. That plays a bigger factor in success than $ n tics sales. Those follow the above. It's proven over n over.
And the Petes did a great job this year!

 

[OMG67]

But you know what ?
At the start of last season Everyone picked us to finish middle of the pack -which we did

Middle of the pack became the OHL CHAMPIONS!

Lots of people took humour in our losing ways after we went all in
Lots of people poked fun at our record -we only won 35 games all year
People said we were lucky to make the playoffs

Lucky to make the playoffs became the OHL CHAMPS

If you go over and look at the playoffs predictions thread -

1st Round-everyone picked Sudbury to beat us
And when we swept Sudbury it was “only because Sudbury was undisciplined”

2nd Round-everyone picked Ottawa to beat us and when we eliminated Ottawa it was because Ottawa “was too young”

3rd Round-everyone picked NB to beat us out and when we eliminated NB it was because it was “a game 7 fluke”

OHL Championship-
Everyone picked London to beat us and when we beat London it was “because the Petes emptied the cupboard at the deadline”


So when people make predictions about how weak we are going to be next season -I JUST LAUGH !

No disrespect meant but I think the overwhelming majority of OHL people, especially the ones on the Season Predictions thread, picked the Petes to win the division and challenge for the Conference. I’m not sure that middle of the pack thing is accurate. I think most people were surprised at how badly the Petes underachieved and then were surprised they somehow managed to pull it together for the playoffs.

The playoff predictions were based on what the Petes did int he regular season which wasn’t a whole heck of a lot.

For the record, I did pick them in the Final!….6 games too! As well as round one. I picked Ottawa and North Bay in rounds 2 and 3.

 

[Newbie Observer]

97th game of the year tonight for the petes.

 

[ZDH]

Are the petes statistically out? Best case we're tied with one of the WHL teams and both best us.

 

[Petes1987]

Back to the GM of the year award discussion….Oke wasn’t even the runner up (Adam Dennis NB) but him not winning the award doesn’t change the impressive job he’s done. This award was voted on by the GMs and they should know better than anyone else who deserves it.

I think the overloooking of Petes coaches and GMs for awards goes back decades. How does Dick Todd who in my opinion was the OHL’s best coach in his era only win coach of the year once in 14 seasons. Jeff Twohey should of won general manager of the year in 1996 for assembling the Petes OHL Championship and Memorial Cup host team.